Post: #1

Quote:The numbers don’t lie—women with college degrees outrank men with degrees so some women looking for a guy with a diploma are bound to remain single.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...-love.html

Boo hoo!!

Post: #2

It gets worse. Their degrees aren't very useful. All of the costs, none of the benefits.

Post: #3

Not to mention more women get useless degrees than men. I see more women get degrees in theatre, art, feminist studies, human services, etc. than men.

Post: #4

I've said it a million times, the reason that is obvious to us yet our feminized culture hasn't figured out is that men care a lot less about whether or not a women is educated. Actually, to rephrase that, we care a lot less about college degrees. My last LTR didn't have a college degree, but she was an interesting person. Not a rocket scientist, but not an idiot. I liked her because she was pretty, fit, nice and pleasant to be around. You know, actual things men care about, not about a degree in women's studies.

Or to just explain it simply to any SJW reading this.

Lindy West has a college degree.

Emily Ratajkowski does not.

Which one do you think most men would rather be with?

Post: #5

(09-07-2015 12:00 AM)CRR Wrote:  I've said it a million times, the reason that is obvious to us yet our feminized culture hasn't figured out is that men care a lot less about whether or not a women is educated. Actually, to rephrase that, we care a lot less about college degrees. My last LTR didn't have a college degree, but she was an interesting person. Not a rocket scientist, but not an idiot. I liked her because she was pretty, fit, nice and pleasant to be around. You know, actual things men care about, not about a degree in women's studies.

Or to just explain it simply to any SJW reading this.

Lindy West has a college degree.

Emily Ratajkowski does not.

Which one do you think most men would rather be with?

Don't bother explaining it for SJWs. To them, it's about men being threatened by an educated woman...blah blah. However, a lot of women's degrees don't qualify as "education".

In the end, all things being equal, most men prefer an intelligent woman but it's not nearly as important as a pleasant disposition.

Post: #6

Causation does not equal correlation.

Instead of focusing solely on college degrees they should also be examining the weight and body types that these "highly educated" women have too.

According to one article asian-american women (still mostly slim and fit) had no problems finding husbands or boyfriends despite having above average bachelors and masters degrees.

Women in the west who obtain masters and above tend to look the part. They have granny hair cuts, short hair, bad skin, bad teeth, awkward personalities, and have shapeless androgynous bodies because they spent most of their time sitting and reading. I've never got one of these specimens naked but I imagine it would be a shivering mass of pale pink flesh and droopy cellulite.

All the degrees and women's studies thesis' in the world can't convince me a creature like this is worth wifing up much less rolling her in flour to find the wet spot during a drunken one night stand.

Post: #7

Was just going to post that, El Chinito Loco. College-educated Asian American women have no such problem. This is a white and black American girls' problem.

Post: #8

One thing I've noticed with women's writing is that they don't get to a point. Men write with some kind of purpose. Women just blather and meander around the topic, being careful to avoid making any kind of insightful statement, or reaching a conclusion.

Post: #9

(09-07-2015 12:52 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  One thing I've noticed with women's writing is that they don't get to a point. Men write with some kind of purpose. Women just blather and meander around the topic, being careful to avoid making any kind of insightful statement, or reaching a conclusion.

Or offending anyone.

Post: #10

(09-06-2015 11:37 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  It gets worse. Their degrees aren't very useful. All of the costs, none of the benefits.

Since graduating, I've become very anti-college. Most degrees aren't useful. I'm paying $700 a month in student loans and working a job that doesn't even require a college degree. Granted it's a super easy job that pays $42K, but I could've been doing that during the 4 years I blew in college without all the debt. I have a business degree that will help me get into management, but I plan on retiring as soon as I can landlord full time. I only went to college to get drunk, play hockey, and bang sluts.

Any younger guys reading this: do not go to college unless you are pre-med, pre-law, or STEM. I've learned more about business from my own studies than going to a reputable state university. I can count maybe three classes that added value to my life. I can count dozens of books that have added more value to my life.

While it's easy to blame women for being retarded and getting pointless degrees, most guys are getting pointless degrees too. I thought a business degree would carry some weight, but it's an expensive piece of paper that they give to anyone who shows up. I completely coasted through my degree and I know thousands of others have as well. College is the new high school.

Post: #11

(09-07-2015 12:52 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  One thing I've noticed with women's writing is that they don't get to a point. Men write with some kind of purpose. Women just blather and meander around the topic, being careful to avoid making any kind of insightful statement, or reaching a conclusion.

It's ivory tower recycling. One professor somewhere says something then the loyal acolytes absorb it and then rehash it again and again. The ideas never actually progress they just become more deranged, dogmatic, and ecclesiastic in presentation.

The difference is that academia always has some of this but when actual brilliant minds formulate thoughts they actually try and branch it out into real life solutions and progress most of the time.

The other part of it is that women who chase academic goals also like to sound smart. They are all about appearance and attention except instead of upkeeping their physical appearance they try and smash you over the head with their pointless academic credentials and flowery vocabulary.

Post: #12

(09-07-2015 01:02 AM)wi30 Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 11:37 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  It gets worse. Their degrees aren't very useful. All of the costs, none of the benefits.

Since graduating, I've become very anti-college. Most degrees aren't useful. I'm paying $700 a month in student loans and working a job that doesn't even require a college degree. Granted it's a super easy job that pays $42K, but I could've been doing that during the 4 years I blew in college without all the debt. I have a business degree that will help me get into management, but I plan on retiring as soon as I can landlord full time. I only went to college to get drunk, play hockey, and bang sluts.

Any younger guys reading this: do not go to college unless you are pre-med, pre-law, or STEM. I've learned more about business from my own studies than going to a reputable state university. I can count maybe three classes that added value to my life. I can count dozens of books that have added more value to my life.

While it's easy to blame women for being retarded and getting pointless degrees, most guys are getting pointless degrees too. I thought a business degree would carry some weight, but it's an expensive piece of paper that they give to anyone who shows up. I completely coasted through my degree and I know thousands of others have as well. College is the new high school.

Learning a trade like plumbing, skilled contractor (with foreman as a goal), chef, mechanic, etc.. is all far more valuable and will put you within striking range of an independent income sooner than some college bullshit. I know quite a few business owners who started out like this and are very well off now.

We're in the age of free and limitless knowledge. There is no point for most college degrees. It's rapidly becoming obselete except for the occupational goals you mentioned before or the very tenuous and uncertain connections you might make while fucking around in school.

Post: #13

(09-06-2015 11:37 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  It gets worse. Their degrees aren't very useful. All of the costs, none of the benefits.

The non financial costs are even worse. The sense of "amazingness" goes up when they get a shitty useless degree. ECL mentioned weight, which is a great point but we also need to calculate personality into it. A lot of these women are just toxic. With huge lists of demands and expectations.

A lot of guys would be happy with:
1) In shape/a few (talking a few) extra lbs
2) Pleasant/feminine
3) Treats people well
4) Decent to above average looks
5) Promises not to get FAT, cut her hair short

These are not hard to achieve objectives.

Post: #14

I agree with most of the points listed. I might also add that the myth of everyone needing a 4 year college degree is something that is promoted and foisted upon us by the elite in this country, and increasingly, around the world.

They need the masses to attend college in droves in order to:

ensure they entrench themselves by elevating the status of the elite colleges their children attend by cramming state schools and lower level schools with everyone else.

enrich themselves by making the poor and middle class take out tens of thousands of dollars in student loans, contributing to the financial system they run.

and contributing to gross mass consumerism. Every year I am flabbergasted at the sheer amount of stuff that is simply thrown out because it's too hard to store it for the summer or move it. All stuff that will then be bought again the next year... millions of college students in and out, every year, so many "necessities"... Profit.

Post: #15

El Chinito Loco, I actually went and talked to the trade school in town about welding when I had a couple of semesters left. My parents convinced me to finish and unfortunately there were no openings in welding. I finished the last year because I was already in too deep. I will never use my degree.

I have decided to start buying rental properties as a way to independent income. I'm starting with an owner-occupied 2-4 unit, with a buy, improve, and refinance strategy in mind. My goal is to be a full-time landlord at age 30. I'm 24 now so I have six years to buy enough properties to make a living.

I work in a blue-collar logistics field now. I like the day to day and it pays decent cash. I can pay off my loans and put cash away for real estate. I love the red pill aspect of blue collar work. I mentioned in another thread how the guy who trained me got screwed on child support and we frequently talk red pill concepts. No HR and the GM loves sexist jokes. What's not to like?

Post: #16

There's a culture of uglification that is going on.

Where women in the west feel they are entitled to look as ugly and act as obnoxious, stupid, violent, or rude as possible and fully expect to be considered desirable by the mainstream.

When they crow about the patriarchy and entitlement they fail to recognize this logic trap and completely hypocritical belief system that has developed within their own ranks.

Try explaining the concept of hypocrisy to one of these people sometime. They literally won't comprehend what you're saying or they'll try and spin it as an insult. They simply aren't developed enough from an emotional or mental standpoint for this type of self awareness or self criticism.

Post: #17

(09-07-2015 01:22 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  There's a culture of uglification that is going on.

Where women in the west feel they are entitled to look as ugly and act as obnoxious, stupid, violent, or rude as possible and fully expect to be considered desirable by the mainstream.

When they crow about the patriarchy and entitlement they fail to recognize this logic trap and completely hypocritical belief system that has developed within their own ranks.

Try explaining the concept of hypocrisy to one of these people sometime. They literally won't comprehend what you're saying or they'll try and spin it as an insult. They simply aren't developed enough from an emotional or mental standpoint for this type of self awareness or self criticism.

I agree.

It is a mass effort of lowering the bar of effort without feeling shitty about yourself.

If everyone starts looking like a ham, then a chick can stop giving a fuck and still marry some in shape guy.

Yes, we men on here claim that we love to work hard and eat our kill. But if given the chance to get free money, get fat and have sex with hot chicks was made available to us, you don't think some guys would be "I'm there?"

Post: #18

I have some personal experience that has recently provided me with some insight on this topic.

In my last job I became close to two male co-workers in particular, one of whom was an office mate and the other a slightly older guy who worked in the same department. All of us were black, male, and well educated. The difference between me and them, however, was just how prolific they were romantically. These two were some of the greatest natural players I've ever seen in my life. My office-mate had perfected the pursuit of women to a proper science, even keeping a running chart/table of all of his conquests (name, ethnicity, school, and age included). The older co-worker was in his late twenties and had surpassed triple digits by the time he turned 21. The game was really a game to them - they relished the challenge of pursuing attractive women and had made themselves VERY good at it through consistent practice.

I've had my moments here and there in my romantic life, but I was left in awe at times just watching these two in action because, frankly, they had a natural grasp of game that I only wish I had or could effectively approximate. During a night out at an urban club in the city I watched one of these two singlehandedly hold the attention of four women at one time, all of whom were openly competing for him (one of whom had come out that night and arrived, dressed to the nines with roomate in tow, specifically for the purpose of seeing him). I saw one of them bring two girls he had recently smashed to the club one night and dance with both for hours on end at the same time despite the fact that both were fully aware of each others' history with him (he later took one of them back to smash at the end of the night). I saw another literally go through a girl a day for a week straight, and discuss with me the scheduling problems that had arisen as girls continued contacting him to "hang out" and he simply ran out of days to fit them in each week (it got to a point at which we both brainstormed creative new ways for him to prioritize his top targets, turn down many more who he was less sweet on, and get more meets in per week - like I said, this was turning into a real science).

I enjoyed going out with them because I learned a little something new each time as I watched them at work and genuinely feel it improved my understanding of game in my environment and my place (or, perhaps, lack thereof) within it.

The key here is that these guys had a very clear "type". They didn't mess around with white women at all and didn't pay much mind to Asians either (women of either of these backgrounds made up a paltry percentage of their respective notch counts). They pursued a very specific breed of woman: the educated black girl (mixed girls and afro-latinas included). At some point during our time working together we got to talking about how much they loved this specific type of woman and how that fascination might limit their pool of potential prospects somewhat. We started trying to figure out how many women there really were in their pool.

Our rough estimation started with a baseline of around 24 million black women in the USA. We assumed, conservatively, that perhaps 1/3rd of these were in the 18-35 range, giving us 8 million targets. Assume 10% of those are not obese or overweight and could generally be considered at least "above average" (say, 6/10 or better).
How many of those are educated? We guessed around a quarter of these women would manage to get a 4 year degree at a decent school.

That leaves us with about 200,000 women. Obviously that is a rough estimate, but the fact that it was plausible opened my eyes.

My two coworkers, between them, had managed to get at 300+ women in that pool. That's more than .1% of the total pool between just the two of tem.
Add about a dozen guys like them (and there are definitely a couple dozen more educated black men with their romantic skillset and prolific numbers in the USA), and you're talking about not even 50 guys (each averaging circa 150 women in that pool) managing to make a statistically significant dent in the pool of attractive educated black women, easily sampling 3-4% of the pool (over 7000 women) between them. Even assuming substantial overlap between them (the educated black community is a small one and these men have all undoubtedly fucked some of the same women), the final number could still easily surpass 5000.

To me, this revealed an explanation as to why many college educated black women were having a hard time finding love: quite a few weren't looking for it or, if they were, many were trying to get it from the same dude 100+ other women with their exact qualifications were seeking as well.

These women were essentially all trying to fuck the same dudes and, make no mistake, these women knew it. One of the co-workers I mentioned above is in an LTR and continues to increase his count even as he maintains the relationship. The girl is not stupid - she knows who she is dating and what he does, even as she pretends not to. Her conversations with him and others in her social circle made it very clear that she was, in fact, very proud of who he is - she knows all about the sexual exploits he had with many women prior to entering their relationship (exploits she claims to think he's given up on), and has stated very clearly that she feels like she "won" by becoming his girlfriend. Just being with him makes her feel like a champion of some sort because so many other women fought (and continue to fight) for the privilege and only she has it. This pride associated with snagging the one guy everyone else wants to fuck (classic pre-selection) is what keeps her with him even as he quite clearly continues to mess around.

That's the portion of the problem that goes (predictably) unmentioned in this article: female choice. As my anecdotes above are intended to illustrate, it is clear that many educated women (at least in the black community) are not looking simply for love. They want the perfect guy, and they're willing to share him with 100+ other women for the less than 1% shot of getting on his arm (and the nearly 100% shot of continuing to share in the event that they do get on his arm). When you and 100+ women are all trying to fuck the same dude and your love for the idea of "winning" the battle over said 100+ women keeps you chasing men who are very unlikely to ever really settle down with you, it gets harder to find the long-lasting relationship you claim to want.

The truth is that these women, for all of the talk about the desire for black love and long-term romantic bliss, would rather share a single alpha male with one dozen other women than go get a greater beta who is a sure thing. This truth is crucial to the problems that this article is outlining, whether the author likes it or not. The situation educated women find themselves in is not simply the product of educated guys turning into a mass of pompous pricks because their female peers outnumber them. This is not simply a case of poor, helpless women being made the unwitting victims of predatory males with egos swelled by an abundance mentality.

Women are choosing, by and large, to forego romantic opportunities that would be more likely to lead to a stable, long-term relationship in favor of a) riding a cock carousel absent any real effort to establish a relationship because they want to sample attractive men (sometimes a few and sometimes a lot, depending on the woman) without getting tied down in a relationship they feel will be a burden/hindrance to their career success and/or overall future, or b) knowingly joining herds of other women in what essentially amounts to a lottery play for a single guy and (even assuming they beat the spectacular odds of failure and win) sharing that guy.

Nobody is making these women make these choices. It is true that there aren't enough educated men to go around for every single educated woman, but there are most certainly more than the current numbers of single women would have you believe. Many women who could otherwise have decent long-term relationships are making choices that, frankly, make such relationships more difficult to obtain.

Women, by and large, get the men they want and deserve. That has largely been true in the past, it will remain true in the future, and it is most definitely true (probably truer than it has ever been) in the present.

Post: #19

(09-07-2015 02:06 AM)Excelsior Wrote:  The key here is that these guys had a very clear "type". They didn't mess around with white women at all and didn't pay much mind to Asians either (women of either of these backgrounds made up a paltry percentage of their respective notch counts). They pursued a very specific breed of woman: the educated black girl (mixed girls and afro-latinas included).

My two coworkers, between them, had managed to get at 300+ women in that pool.

Interesting post, but what is the point in this activity? If all the girls are a 'very specific breed of woman', where is the variety that justifies high notch counts?

Post: #20

^^^
Great post, but you seem to be assuming that those two guys were only getting above average women who weren't obese or overweight. The higher a guy's notch count, the more likely he has been with quality women and the more likely he has been with ugly and/or fat women. Has there ever been a guy in the history of the United States with over a hundred notches, most or all of them black women, and none of them were fat or ugly? Anything's possible, but I seriously doubt it.

Post: #21

Seriously, who gives a fuck why they can't find love...

Post: #22

Glaucon, this post is about American universities and I can't help but assume you are a foreign poster based on your posting history. Please stay within your posting expertise as it's not in these threads.

Post: #23

They can't find love for the same reason other women can't:

Fat
Insufferable cunts

Simple.

Post: #24

Well what did they expect?

1) 'I have a degree in Queer Subcultural Social Dymanics of Pacific Island Tribes from 800-1000 AD from Niche Liberal Arts College...WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO SETTLE FOR A PLUMBER!?'

Well...nevermind that a degree like that is basically a one-way ticket to hosting at Chili's, or that I know a few plumbers and they ALL make bank (one in particular just paid off his house, has two kids with his wife who doesn't work (she's an obnoxious whale) and buys a new truck every 3-4 years...he's about 34) - one of these things has more prestige than the other - granted it's more 'implied' prestige, but still...this is how women think.

2) College is the beginning of the carousel. In my time in University I became close to (friends with, didn't bang, but I never really tried) a really nice girl- good family with intact marriage, cash, close, taking Business Admin (sure it's not Accounting or Electrical Engineering, but it's miles ahead of Queer Studies or Literature - a fairly useful degree), kind, whip-smart but not a cunt about it, lookswise about a 6.

But...she ALWAYS had new guys - like every few weeks a new cock was in the henhouse. I personally know five (5!) guys who have been inside her.

She professed (self-serving rationalization) that 'this university is FULL' of girls who do the same (indeed, I and any many who have attended university since the year 2000 have no doubt come across a few of them...but 'FULL'?). I had a pretty good university notch count (I still know guys who got way more) - I bet hers was twice what mine was.

What's that old chestnut? Women with a high number of sexual partners have difficulty bonding to one man (and - haha - men's future relationships are largely unaffected by high notch counts)?

Female Hypergamy + The Carousel = 'No honey, it's not 'You can't find love', it's 'You refuse in any way to settle', and even if you did find Chad Thundercock, 6 foot-3 inch 220 lb., former Heisman-winning college QB who runs a charity helping disabled Sub-Saharan kids, makes eight figures, loves his mama and gives you squirting orgasms that hit the 12-foot ceiling in the master bed of your mansion in the Hamptons, on account of previously having had 53 cocks inside you (and slept with five women) you'd probably fuck it up anyways.'

Post: #25

(09-07-2015 02:46 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  ^^^
Great post, but you seem to be assuming that those two guys were only getting above average women who weren't obese or overweight.

I feel fairly confident that they were. Keep in mind that one of these guys has kept a chart listing every notch with name, school (and major), and a photo. I have seen every girl he has smashed. There were no hamplanets among them. There were a few girls I considered butterfaces, but those girls all at least had tight bodies. Pretty much every one of them was what I would consider above the median (by my standards, of course - yours may vary, especially if you're not keen on black women).

The other guy had even higher standards, so I'd suspect his fattie count is just as low.