Post: #1

I've been thinking about this for awhile. If you had a time machine to go into the past, where would you go?

There are a few rules:
1)You cannot change history
2)You cannot have sex or game women
3)You aren't allowed to try to make yourself wealthier.
4)You need to observe historically known people, things and people.
5)It has to be in a time before you were born.

Basically, you are only allowed to learn and study.

Here is where I would like to go

1) Ancient Greece-I would want to take a Video recorder and watch Socrates do what he does best, lay down the socratic method on his fellow Athenians.

I would interview Socrates' disciples.

I would want to record Leonidas meeting the oracle of Delphi.

2)I would record the Egyptian Pyramids being built

3)I would take photographs of Persepolis in its prime.

4) Take photographs of Xanadu before its destruction.

5) I would interview and record the founding fathers creating the US constitution.

Post: #2

(09-25-2015 11:11 AM)PolymathGuru Wrote:  I've been thinking about this for awhile. If you had a time machine to go into the past, where would you go?

There are a few rules:
1)You cannot change history
2)You cannot have sex or game women...

Mission aborted and time machine

Post: #3

I'd like to go back to 1950s-70s and watch the birth of rock and roll:

- Visit Sun records and watch Elvis cut "that's all right mama"
- Frankly hanging around Sun would be very entertaining as people like Jerry Lee Lewis, Johnny Cash, Roy Orbison and other get their starts
- Watch the Beatles record their demos for Decca and get rejected
- Visit Woodstock

Post: #4

Witness the battles of Stirling and Falkirk in 1290s Scotland.

Post: #5

I'd say, go back to the time of Jesus and see what happened with my own eyes.

Post: #6

Destroy the root of SJWism before it could ever manifest again

Post: #7

I'd like to observe Aristotle tutoring the young Alexander the Great, and meet Mozart while he was scribbling operas in-between playing billiards at the coffee house.

Post: #8

I'd go to New York City in the '70s; just to walk those streets, taste that air. Maybe go into a few of the movie theaters.





The only actual event I would need to attend is the Zeppelin Madison Square Garden concerts in 1973.

Post: #9

Logistical issues:
1. You need to speak the language. In Greece you will need to know the language, otherwise...
2. Time constraints - watching the Pyramids ? that took years!
You must be able to speed things up.


Place to be:
1. Early Israeli empire - king Solomon and King David
2. Mount Sinai
3. Stonehenge being erected
4. WW2 (and try not to get killed)
So many places to see, and so little time machines available.

Post: #10

Easy choice.

Chicago and the East Coast in the early 1920's.

My great grandfather and his brother immigrated there at that time. I often watch their photos which they sent home to Finland.

Loving that 1920's suited up gangster style.

Post: #11

England in the 80's full stop.

As a nobleman in Victorian England during the period of the Jack The Ripper killings.

1940's LA. The birth of the cinema. The time of the Black Dahlia murders. Before PC, before CCTV. Think LA Noire the video game.

The Western Frontier. Think Red Dead Redemption.

As a medevil King.

On the ground during WW2.

During the height of the Greek/Roman civilisations. The time of Alexander The Great.

A broker in New York, Wall Street at the height of the economic boom.

Post: #12

I want to see what colour the dinosaurs were!

Post: #13

Observe Julius Caesar leading his army into battle, crushing the Gauls, against other Roman armies in the civil wars.

Post: #14

I'd go back to the days of the British empire and the industrial revolution. Must have been an amazing period.

A land tour through central asia before the Shah was deposed.

Rhodesia.

Roaring 20s America.

80s Japan.

I'd also like to observe the lifestyles of guys like Ghenghis Khan, Sultans and Emperors.

Post: #15

Get drunk with the Vikings.

Post: #16

Dupe: If You Could Visit Any Period Of Time In History, What Would It Be?

Although my thread turned into a bit of a race/religion thread rather quickly. . .

Post: #17

If it were a one way ride I wouldn't want to go. We tend to "romanticize" the past when in fact for most of human history the vast majority of humans lived short, miserable, extremely difficult lives.

We may complain about a lot of shit but the nature of our "modern problems" pale in comparison to those of our ancestors. Go spend some time in some 3rd world shit hole like Somalia and you'll likely get a good taste of what most of humanity historically lived with

Assuming our theoretical time machine is capable of a return trip I'd much rather turn the dial forward 1000 years or so. If the changes brought to the human experience by technologies of the last 50, even 20 years are any indication that would be incredible to see. I know I know...I can hear it already... "But Papaya humans probably wont even be around by then,..will have destroyed the world...we're fucked...yada yada"...I know. But I don't agree

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." -Henry Stanley Haskins

Call me a naive optimist but I think in the long run I tend to believe the best minds, men of will and of strong character will win out when the shit really hits the fan.

If past is prologue then:


“We were hunters and foragers, the frontier was everywhere. We were bounded only by the earth and the ocean and the sky.

The open road still softly calls our little terraqueous globe is the madhouse of those hundred, thousand, millions of worlds.

We who cannot even put our own planetary home in order, riven with rivalries and hatreds; are we to venture out into space?

By the time we are ready to settle even the nearest other planetary systems, we will have changed. The simple passage of so many generations will have changed us. Necessity will have changed us. We’re an adaptable species.

It will not be we who reach Alpha Centauri and the other nearby stars, it will be a species very like us, but with more of our strengths and fewer of our weaknesses. More confident, far seeing, capable, and prudent.

For all our failings, despite our limitations and fallibilities, We Humans are Capable of Greatness.

What new wonders undreamt of in our time will we have wrought in another generation and another?

How far will our nomadic species have wandered by the end of the next century and the next millennium?

Our remote descendants safely arrayed on many worlds through the solar system and beyond, will be unified.

By their common heritage, by their regard for their home planet, and by the knowledge that whatever other life may be, the only humans in all the universe, come from Earth.

They will gaze up and strain to find the Blue Dot in their skies. They will marvel at how vulnerable the repository of all our potential once was. How perilous our infancy. How humble our beginnings. How many rivers we had to cross before we found our way.” – Carl Sagan


I'd love to turn than fucking time machine dial forward..

Post: #18

(09-29-2015 10:51 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If it were a one way ride I wouldn't want to go. We as humans tend to "romanticize" the past when in fact for the most of human history the vast majority of humans lived short, miserable, extremely difficult lives.

I actually wanted to look at the inheritance of western culture and certain major events occur that are still a mystery to modern day.

Never said the past was superior to the present, but the past is the source of our knowledge.

Post: #19

(09-25-2015 11:11 AM)PolymathGuru Wrote:  I've been thinking about this for awhile. If you had a time machine to go into the past, where would you go?

There are a few rules:
1)You cannot change history
2)You cannot have sex or game women
3)You aren't allowed to try to make yourself wealthier.
4)You need to observe historically known people, things and people.
5)It has to be in a time before you were born.

Basically, you are only allowed to learn and study.

Here is where I would like to go

1) Ancient Greece-I would want to take a Video recorder and watch Socrates do what he does best, lay down the socratic method on his fellow Athenians.

I would interview Socrates' disciples.

I would want to record Leonidas meeting the oracle of Delphi.

2)I would record the Egyptian Pyramids being built

3)I would take photographs of Persepolis in its prime.

4) Take photographs of Xanadu before its destruction.

5) I would interview and record the founding fathers creating the US constitution.

LOL I would break all of these rules...

I would go back and teach my 26 year old self red pill game...

I would strategize with my newly 26 y.o. red pill self about all of the ways to capitalize upon wealth strategies - for instance finding major treasures and then use that wealth to send my 26 year old self back into those times use that wealth as DHV to outbreed Ghengis Kahn himself using all that accumulated red pill wisdom.

Using knowledge of history I would become the original Gangster bankster and leave hidden financial empires across the planet solidifying my DHV and Red Pill knowledge.

I being red pill know that rules were meant to be broken and as an ancient Neoman rewrite the rules book for myself and my millions of future genetic heirs to enshrine and accelerate creative destruction.

I would bring Niccolo Machiavelli and Nostradamus back to the future after I taught Nicc to use his own strategies to take over the fortunes of the Medicis and the Borgias ... and become the original Vatican bankers. I would teach Nosty about microbiology virology and bring a PDR of modern medicines and patents and make a killing during the bubonic black plague.

I would breed the SJW tendencies OUT of the Anglosphere and the Eurosphere and finance their conquest of the Globe.

You will all look like Roman Legionaires, Giant Vikings or valiant courageous Conquistadores and allowed in the modified bible to have five wives and handmaidens each like True ancient warriors to outbreed Islam. Mohammed would remain a camel caravan driver and get lost trading in the lands of Genghis Khan. The Crusaders would breed massive armies and then conquer the globe.

I would then visit a young Nicola Tesla and use these riches to set up the first industrial multinational Teslacorp. JP Morgan would not know what hit him.

I would make sure the Matrix series got made otherwise Red Pill would have no meaning. Feminism and female voting - what is that?

I would develop means to insure throughout history the Area 51 Alien types would not be aware of my genetic global domination plans and stay under their radar - success being secrecy and secrecy being success.

Damn this is the outline of a great script for a major trilogy... or two.

Post: #20

(09-29-2015 11:28 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Damn this is the outline of a great script for a major trilogy... or two.

Post: #21

(09-29-2015 10:51 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If it were a one way ride I wouldn't want to go. We tend to "romanticize" the past when in fact for most of human history the vast majority of humans lived short, miserable, extremely difficult lives.

We may complain about a lot of shit but the nature of our "modern problems" pale in comparison to those of our ancestors. Go spend some time in some 3rd world shit hole like Somalia and you'll likely get a good taste of what most of humanity historically lived with.

Do you really believe this? That humanity was just wasting away until the our so-called "age of enlightened reason" started?

The idea that humans lived lives of quiet desperation is born of a presentist mindset that can't conceptualize the emotional and psychic depth that makes life worth living -- regardless of any technological, economic or political "progress."

People in the past often lived lives of rich emotional and psychic depth, their lives made whole by family, religion and friends. It is a depth of feeling that seems alien and threatening to our present selves. We kid ourselves that our consumptive lifestyles and our "cult of self-fulfillment" make us truly happy, when our lives and views like yours betray a deep, terrifying pessimism of the present age.

Few people here truly want to go and stay in a world, say, 500 years ago -- we are too attached to these deeply-pessimistic ways of viewing the world, too familiar with the dull lifelessness of "enlightened reason" -- but we want to appreciate the past for what it was and make sense of it in the brief window we have on this earth.

As they say, those who have no past have no future. We can't ignore the past nor can we ruthlessly devalue it by projecting our own hatred, pessimism and fear onto it. We can only pick up the well-worn pieces of the past we find and remind ourselves that happiness and contentment in this world comes in a litany of ways -- but the one universal arbiter of this happiness is the deep, binding love of family and friends.

So, no, my friend, the people of the past didn't live short, brutish lives. Their lives were very different than ours, to be sure, but what made life worth living then is what makes it worth living now.

Oh, yeah, I'd go back to the 1920's, throw some moonshine back in a speakeasy and pull some flappers. Cheers!

Post: #22

If you were able to go back in time and meet your younger self, I think your younger self would not believe they had just met their older self. Younger you would think older you to be a con man or a madman.

Post: #23

Deepdiver's right:

I'm buying 5,000 shares of Standard Oil stock in 1900.

Then I'm off to 1985 to tell Apollo Creed to train harder for his upcoming fight with Ivan Drago.

And then back to Creataceous period to hunt a dinosaur with modern artillery and find out what they taste like.

I don't see any point to going back in time if all you can do is observe. When you return to the present with all this information, who's going to believe you? You can show people a selfie with Socrates but I bet he looks like random homeless man. I'd love to take photos of the hanging gardens of Babylon but no one will think they're real. Since few, if any, will think your info is true the knowledge dies with you.

Also if you go back in time, people from the past can still affect YOU. If you run into Leonidas or Kublai Khan and they see you, in modern Western clothes, with strange devices( camcorder and time machine), speaking incomprehensible gibberish (modern English) you're probably going to end up with head on pike or in a prison.

Post: #24

I'd definitely go back to 480BC to watch the Spartans fight at Thermoplyae

Post: #25

-Nazi Germany right before WWII to see it for myself.
-Number one on my list of historical leaders to meet: Atilla the Hun. If I could then I'd help him take the world or help Genghis Khan do it then live a life of luxury
-Prevent Caesar's assassination or at the very least talk with him about the best methods to obtain power and influence.
-Live among the cult known as the Assasins and see how they operated and possibly have them train me.
-Oversee Peter the Great's modernization of Russia.
-Oversee Alexander the Great's conquest of what was considered the entire world and help him actually reach the Pacific Ocean. Would be tempted to help prevent his death to see what would happen.
-Recover famous, lost works of Cicero, Caesar, and Archimedes.
-Explore the possibility of Carthage winning the Punic Wars and travel with Hannibal across the Alps.
-Meditate with Buddha.
-Join Saladin on his campaigns.
-See Babylon and the lands of Ancient Egypt.
I have too many and this post would be long as fuck.