Post: #1

   
It reminded me about all the incidents that I heard about women that cheated their husbands/bf, they were mostly with betas that tried to be romantic and shit. How to deal with that?
By the way, there are more women like that than we want to admit, the worst scenario is not the divorce. They can keep fuck other dudes when the husband at work

Post: #2

Facebook guy = alpha
Married guy = beta

Be skittles/facebook man

Post: #3

I'm cheating on my wife some day regardless.
If she needs attention she can see a therapist

Post: #4

"How to deal with that?"

If you can't control someone else then why worry about it? Either don't get married, or accept the possibility of cheating. Or don't sign any contracts and live in a state where cohabitation does not equal marriage. You seem young, if it's humanly possible, try to make it to your thirties without committing to a woman, and you will likely reap the rewards that come with experience like cynicism, getting used to being free and being set in your ways, and an established career. Or you can get married young have a kid or two, make your exit plan early, then you don't have to worry what marriage is like because you already experienced it. Then you can be single for a decade or two, and then get married again when you are older and wiser if that is what you want.

Post: #5

My theory is this. The problem isn't necessarily that alpha married men go beta during the marriage it's that they tend to not give a shit about meaningless shit. When you're focused on your career, earning for your family, and big picture things, who has time or energy to argue about the trivial shit she will test you with over the years? So over time men just accede to their wife's little demands with saying "whatever you want honey" while thinking "as long as you shut the fuck up with your nonsense" and little by little the power transfers over to her. Since most women are addicted to drama, conflict, emotional stimulation, and "fear"... once that power has transferred she loses desire and respect soon follows. Then she becomes susceptible to the random douche-chode that stirs new "tingles" within her.

If youre going to get married then part of your vow to her should be "I promise to never let you take the power in this relationship because I am the man and I have the cock and balls."

Post: #6

If you go into marriage/LTR thinking this could never happen then you're doomed from the start. You have to be in control at all times, maintain frame, and don't do what she tells you. You must be the same man you were in the beginning to the end. Set boundaries with what you will/won't accept from the very first interaction, make it clear and if she breaks the rules then fuck her, her loss. If you want to take the risk knowing full well what could possibly happen if you don't keep your end of maintaining an LTR/marriage, then go for it. But I'll tell you this, knowledge of female nature, game, abundance mentality and keeping options are absolutely crucial. Even then she could cheat but you have options so who gives a fuck. Is she worth the risk? That's the question. Incidentally this is the exact question I'm facing.

Post: #7

have to be in control at all times? need an example...

Post: #8

(10-01-2015 01:57 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  have to be in control at all times? need an example...

You have to be the leader, deciding where the relationship is going. Deciding where to eat, what you're going to watch, hell even what she wears. Why do you think they ask where you should go for dinner? Because they want to be lead. If you give the leadership to her, respect for you goes away along with the tingles. Chicks don't fuck or want to be with guys they don't respect.

Post: #9

(10-01-2015 02:00 PM)Aphex Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:57 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  have to be in control at all times? need an example...

You have to be the leader, deciding where the relationship is going. Deciding where to eat, what you're going to watch, hell even what she wears. Why do you think they ask where you should go for dinner? Because they want to be lead. If you give the leadership to her, respect for you goes away along with the tingles. Chicks don't fuck or want to be with guys they don't respect.

but what if u really don't give a fuck where to eat, what she wears etc

Am I the only one who cares only about money and sex and no other bullshit?

Post: #10

(10-01-2015 02:16 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:00 PM)Aphex Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:57 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  have to be in control at all times? need an example...

You have to be the leader, deciding where the relationship is going. Deciding where to eat, what you're going to watch, hell even what she wears. Why do you think they ask where you should go for dinner? Because they want to be lead. If you give the leadership to her, respect for you goes away along with the tingles. Chicks don't fuck or want to be with guys they don't respect.

but what if u really don't give a fuck where to eat, what she wears etc

Am I the only one who cares only about money and sex and no other bullshit?

Then just stick to pickup. Some day you might change your mind but maybe not.

Post: #11

(10-01-2015 01:27 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If youre going to get married then part of your vow to her should be "I promise to never let you take the power in this relationship because I am the man and I have the cock and balls."

Sounds good in theory, but in a feminist state with its SMV tilted so far into women's favor, you're letting her take that very power once you put that ring on her finger. Especially true in the US and other anglosphere countries.

This reminds me of a fight I once had with my ex wife. It was over something stupid, which I can't even remember, but I remember putting my foot down and saying "absolutely not. I will not accept this. If you have a problem with it, you're free to leave."

Well, guess what? She left. Literally walked out the door and did not come back home until 3 am. And I had to watch her kid while she was gone! "Where's mommy?", he said to me a dozen times. Had we had our own kids, I probably would have gotten divorce raped. And for what? Putting my foot down?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to marriage but only in certain conditions - it has to be in a place where the SMV has to be tilted into the man's favor, and the divorce laws are not anti-male. So if she cheats, I kick her out of the door, keep the kids, and get a replacement relatively quickly and easily.

Post: #12

I have a girlfriend that probably will be a good wife and she does what I say, but sometimes I still want to leave her. The only reason why I don't do that is because we've been too long together(I feel like she is the closest person, more than a family). I think she will be ruined if I leave her, she will become one of those whores on a carousel.

Post: #13

(10-01-2015 02:37 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:27 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If youre going to get married then part of your vow to her should be "I promise to never let you take the power in this relationship because I am the man and I have the cock and balls."

Sounds good in theory, but in a feminist state with its SMV tilted so far into women's favor, you're letting her take that very power once you put that ring on her finger. Especially true in the US and other anglosphere countries.

This reminds me of a fight I once had with my ex wife. It was over something stupid, which I can't even remember, but I remember putting my foot down and saying "absolutely not. I will not accept this. If you have a problem with it, you're free to leave."

Well, guess what? She left. Literally walked out the door and did not come back home until 3 am. And I had to watch her kid while she was gone! "Where's mommy?", he said to me a dozen times. Had we had our own kids, I probably would have gotten divorce raped. And for what? Putting my foot down?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to marriage but only in certain conditions - it has to be in a place where the SMV has to be tilted into the man's favor, and the divorce laws are not anti-male. So if she cheats, I kick her out of the door, keep the kids, and get a replacement relatively quickly and easily.

Granted : There no bulletproof solutions to any of the male / female dynamics and the inherent risks associated with them . Even less when you put "all of your eggs in one basket" so to speak such as marriage. Even much less "a one size fits all" answer. That said there are steps to mitigate the risk...and sharing ideas about what those steps might be based on experiences well...that's all we can do, right?

Post: #14

(10-01-2015 04:52 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  and sharing ideas about what those steps might be based on experiences well...that's all we can do, right?

That, and discuss how to choose wisely.

Post: #15

None of the redpill guys I know at 30-35 are even considering marriage. Apart of having too much fun, one of the reason is that, they know shit like this will happen no matter how alpha you are.

Riding the same dick gets boring, and you will not be there all the time to watch her. Sometimes it's not even about you getting more beta. Girls sleep with beta guys while being with an alpha all the time just because they can, they like the drama. How many of you have slept with a girl belonging to a more alpha guy?

I think it goes back to the question of what are you willing to sacrifice for marriage? Is it worth the shit that you KNOW will happen?

Also I don't know about you guys who keep saying "go to Asia and get a traditional wife". Born and raised in Vietnam and married women cheat quite often, but it's harder for them to divorce rape you.

I'm too young to think much about this but the way I see it, get married if you know you will get custody of the child and a fair divorce.

Quote:I have a girlfriend that probably will be a good wife and she does what I say, but sometimes I still want to leave her. The only reason why I don't do that is because we've been too long together(I feel like she is the closest person, more than a family). I think she will be ruined if I leave her, she will become one of those whores on a carousel.

She got you square in her game man. This is how most men eventually get trapped. That "save a hoe" instinct is way too strong, and no matter how much we deny it we do get attached too.

You are not responsible for what she becomes in life. Get real. After you she will just find another guy to torture and you will remain as just an old dick.

Post: #16

How about leaving to another country when the wife wants to divorce and take your money? runaway is the best option

Post: #17

(10-01-2015 11:40 AM)Mr Finish Wrote:  I'm cheating on my wife some day regardless.
If she needs attention she can see a therapist

I know this'll sound quite beta, but why get married in the first place if you know you're just gonna cheat?

I always encounter dudes who have a full-time girl and then cheat on her regularly. I feel them, but why even get into the LTR first if she's not someone you want to commit to in the first place?

Post: #18

(10-02-2015 01:31 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 11:40 AM)Mr Finish Wrote:  I'm cheating on my wife some day regardless.
If she needs attention she can see a therapist

I know this'll sound quite beta, but why get married in the first place if you know you're just gonna cheat?

I always encounter dudes who have a full-time girl and then cheat on her regularly. I feel them, but why even get into the LTR first if she's not someone you want to commit to in the first place?

Maybe they like to hurt people, some people get a high out of hurting others or perhaps there just selfish and have no empathy for others people feeling, sounds like a women, trap in a man's body.

Post: #19

(10-01-2015 02:16 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:00 PM)Aphex Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:57 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  have to be in control at all times? need an example...

You have to be the leader, deciding where the relationship is going. Deciding where to eat, what you're going to watch, hell even what she wears. Why do you think they ask where you should go for dinner? Because they want to be lead. If you give the leadership to her, respect for you goes away along with the tingles. Chicks don't fuck or want to be with guys they don't respect.

but what if u really don't give a fuck where to eat, what she wears etc

Am I the only one who cares only about money and sex and no other bullshit?

I was like that in my last relationship, not really caring about where to eat, what to do etc., and instead focusing on important stuff like sex and money. However, that being said, I think it was a mistake, because we broke up and I think it was partly due to a loss of respect for me not leading (again, not only because I didn't care about which restaurant to check out, but also because I gave in to a lot of her requests about things to do in general, out of apathy). It seems like it's more work, but I suppose the man has to make an effort to plan things in a relationship, and to formulate strong opinions.

Post: #20

(10-01-2015 02:16 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:00 PM)Aphex Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:57 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  have to be in control at all times? need an example...

You have to be the leader, deciding where the relationship is going. Deciding where to eat, what you're going to watch, hell even what she wears. Why do you think they ask where you should go for dinner? Because they want to be lead. If you give the leadership to her, respect for you goes away along with the tingles. Chicks don't fuck or want to be with guys they don't respect.

but what if u really don't give a fuck where to eat, what she wears etc

Am I the only one who cares only about money and sex and no other bullshit?

If that's what you're about, why would you want to get married?

You're going to get married, she's going to be spending your money and too tired or too busy for sex. If you're in it for bitches and money, getting hitched is a terrible idea.

Post: #21

(10-02-2015 02:19 PM)RockHard Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:16 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 02:00 PM)Aphex Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:57 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  have to be in control at all times? need an example...

You have to be the leader, deciding where the relationship is going. Deciding where to eat, what you're going to watch, hell even what she wears. Why do you think they ask where you should go for dinner? Because they want to be lead. If you give the leadership to her, respect for you goes away along with the tingles. Chicks don't fuck or want to be with guys they don't respect.

but what if u really don't give a fuck where to eat, what she wears etc

Am I the only one who cares only about money and sex and no other bullshit?

If that's what you're about, why would you want to get married?

You're going to get married, she's going to be spending your money and too tired or too busy for sex. If you're in it for bitches and money, getting hitched is a terrible idea.

I know men that have rich wives.
One day I want to be a father.

Post: #22

(10-02-2015 02:29 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  I know men that have rich wives.
One day I want to be a father.

Rich wives can afford expensive attorneys.

See my point above about what having kids does to your sex life.

Look, dude, you're asking hypothetical questions about unicorns. You're coming on here telling me you want a rich chick who's a great mother and great in the sack who won't shit test you? And then your plan is to split to another country when this marriage goes in the shitter, which you've already resigned yourself to?

Explain to me again how you want to get married. This is fascinating.

Post: #23

(10-01-2015 04:11 PM)mntrsx Wrote:  I have a girlfriend that probably will be a good wife and she does what I say, but sometimes I still want to leave her. The only reason why I don't do that is because we've been too long together(I feel like she is the closest person, more than a family). I think she will be ruined if I leave her, she will become one of those whores on a carousel.

You sir need to read this immediately:

Pity and The Game Don't Mix

Post: #24

This thread makes me feel better with some of the responses, I am 26 and only give a shit about bettering myself as a man, advancing my career and fucking girls I wanna fuck.

I have absolutely 0 interest in marriage, ZERO.

Post: #25

(10-01-2015 02:37 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:27 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  If youre going to get married then part of your vow to her should be "I promise to never let you take the power in this relationship because I am the man and I have the cock and balls."

Sounds good in theory, but in a feminist state with its SMV tilted so far into women's favor, you're letting her take that very power once you put that ring on her finger. Especially true in the US and other anglosphere countries.

This reminds me of a fight I once had with my ex wife. It was over something stupid, which I can't even remember, but I remember putting my foot down and saying "absolutely not. I will not accept this. If you have a problem with it, you're free to leave."

Well, guess what? She left. Literally walked out the door and did not come back home until 3 am. And I had to watch her kid while she was gone! "Where's mommy?", he said to me a dozen times. Had we had our own kids, I probably would have gotten divorce raped. And for what? Putting my foot down?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to marriage but only in certain conditions - it has to be in a place where the SMV has to be tilted into the man's favor, and the divorce laws are not anti-male. So if she cheats, I kick her out of the door, keep the kids, and get a replacement relatively quickly and easily.

When she walked out of you, you should have said 'hey, don't forget the kid. I'm not gonna baby sit'.

This of course leaves the question why marry a girl who has a child? Ok, we all have done some stupid things in life but still..