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Title & Abstract:

A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men

Abstract
The purpose of this study is to gain understanding of the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men. The serum testosterone concentrations of 28 volunteers were investigated daily during abstinence periods after ejaculation for two phases. The authors found that the fluctuations of testosterone levels from the 2nd to 5th day of abstinence were minimal. On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak. Ejaculation is the precondition and beginning of the special periodic serum testosterone level variations, which would not occur without ejaculation. The results showed that ejaculation-caused variations were characterized by a peak on the 7th day of abstinence; and that the effective time of an ejaculation is 7 days minimum. These data are the first to document the phenomenon of the periodic change in serum testosterone level; the correlation between ejaculation and periodic change in the serum testosterone level, and the pattern and characteristics of the periodic change.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659...t=Abstract

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Wonder what that feels like

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So, if you're regularly having sex your testosterone levels will be lower?

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I find that my testosterone levels are higher when I'm eating well, working out hard, sleeping well and encountering hot chicks in everyday life. When I'm having sex they also seem to be higher expect for during the refractory period.

A week between jerk offs works best and if you're meeting a chick and think you'll be fucking her, save up so you'll enjoy it more. Higher testosterone also leads you to be bolder in approaches because your brain really wants it much more than if you've just jerked off.

A week is hard for any man but it can be done and when it is, it's handsomely rewarding. I like to avoid jerking off often so I'm always 100% ready for anything. Of course you're always ready to fuck a hot chick but it's much better to be at your peak. Just my 50 cents.

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One time I tried going 40 days and I lasted 22. Its amazing what that does to your body!

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I remember reading somewhere, ages ago, that your body can tell the difference between masturbation and sex.

Masturbation lowers your testosterone and sex increases it. Could be broscience, so pinch of salt, etc.

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(06-22-2011 01:35 AM)Riker Wrote:  One time I tried going 40 days and I lasted 22. Its amazing what that does to your body!

Please elaborate. I made it about 3 weeks before too and when I finally put that boy in somebody it was as hard as a diamond.

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So is there concrete evidence, that masturbation lowers a man's testosterone? Also, if testosterone is a huge deciding factor in a man's muscle development, does that mean a guy could see improvements in the gym from not jerking off (and thus maintaining a higher testosterone level?) I definitely am guilty of too much self satisfaction with high speed internet at my fingertips. It would be beneficial for me to take a break to increase my motivation with women, but if it will help with gains in the gym, then that will increase my focus and determination that much more.

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I rememeber there was one guy on the mASF forums named ijjjji who was a proponent of holding back the jizz. I think he was mainly into holding back because of some far-eastern philosophy about certain energy forces being lost, but with this article I think it is pretty clear that not cumming (at least from masturbation) can be good for a guy. Testosterone is the male life force, and the more testosterone we have circulating through our veins (metaphorical talk, not scientific, of course) the more male we are. Since reading this article I've given up on bating for a while and I feel a lot more desire, but according to the article there isn't actual pronounced testosterone increase until after day 7 so we'll see how it will be a few days from now.

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Okay, I've heard about this whole "testosterone peaks on the 7th day" thing for awhile now and I'd like to share my results.


Question: Does waxing the dolphin lower testosterone levels?

Test: Only beat off on Saturday nights if no sex during that week. Do this for two [weeks.

Control: Beat off every day and stop on Wed. Do this for the next week afterwards.

Results:

Week one. Insanely productive. Always reading philosophy or thinking of new ways to pick up girls. Always looked forward to hitting the gym. When I go out I'm full of nervous energy that makes me extremely ballsy to approach girls. Total devil-may-care attitude. When I had pulled no girls that week I was really happy to jerk it on Sat night.

Week two. Another busy week. Great time at the gym. I got a same night lay that Friday. Saturday my approach game is sloppy and held back, but the fresh sex has made my confidence surge. Regardless Saturday gave me nothing.

Week three. Jerk it Sunday, Monday, Tues, Wed. Didn't do much the entire week. Porn felt boring by Wed. The weekend was terrible; I made few approaches and they went nowhere. I also notice my standards for the boner test were higher than normal.



Early Conclusions:


Both sex and masturbation lowered my energy level. After banging a girl on Friday for week-2, I was quite passive the following night. Not masturbating, like it says in the Bible, seemed to be good for me. I'd say not masturbating improved my game significantly. By keeping your ball sack full, interactions with women are less of a chore and your body is telling you "GO FOR IT SON" whenever you see a cute shape. Additionally, although sex with women drains you, just like masturbation does, of motivation to pick up new girls, banging a girl has the advantage of giving you experience and confidence with future interactions. So obviously the trade-off's of banging a new girl are worth the diminished sex drive.

I continue to do the "no masturbation" technique. Not easy but it teaches self-control and promotes your ability with women. While it didn't improve my lifts, it definitely gave me more motivation to be at the gym.

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(06-26-2011 02:21 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Okay, I've heard about this whole "testosterone peaks on the 7th day" thing for awhile now and I'd like to share my results.

After hearing similar things, I ran a pretty serious, extended experiment on myself a few months ago.

I went about eight weeks without jerking it all, adding the additional layer of religiously avoiding even an askance peek at porn or near-porn. My only release was an actual woman. One entrance, one exit. (I was banging a semi-steady for most of that time, in addition to some intermittent stragglers, and strategically kept my bangs to once every 6-7 days.) Unlike a lot of guys who sing the praises of this approach, I had mixed results.

Motivated: As advertised, I was definitely more motivated to do things--though mostly physical stuff. I'd heard the hilarious advice to "fuck the weights" whenever I found my feeling frustrated or distracted and, during that period, I really tightened up my physique. Those poor dumbbells got the equivalent of getting pounded up the ass several times a week.

Bolder Approaches: No doubt I was bolder and riskier in my approaches, but I also found that I wasn't as cool and smooth as usual. The problem is that I'm already pretty bold and risky, and this pushed my game into dancing on the line of "try-hard." Even though I may have done a good job of masking it, there was a deep-seeded whisper of desperation. I began to understand how cats with no game must shoot themselves in the foot even when the "do everything right." That said, I was quicker to take things sexual when talking to girls, which virtually eliminated one of my typical missteps--becoming the entertainment. Girls got it, and they went with it or didn't.

Distracted, Angry Flesh: Even though I had a powerful, masculine drive to demolish every task I needed to accomplish, I found myself easily distracted by girls and my mind constantly wandering to the same place: "I need to go get some pussy." This is fine, except that--like most guys--I couldn't game 24/7. I had other shit to do and the period of this experiment corresponded to an especially busy period for me. If I was sitting down working in a cafe and spotted some chicks, I'd drop my work to go swoop. If I was at home working, I'd leave the house to swoop. If I was swooping, I'd leave one swoop to swoop more.

Aggro-Culture: I was considerably more on edge than usual. If I saw a guy looking at me a little too long, I began to prepare mentally to scrap. I was, "I dare you to come fuck with me," in my head. Driving around in my car, I cut people off without hesitation. When I'd go running or lift, I went at those things harder and meaner. I pounded the pavement and ran through crowds of dudes that got in my way, bumping them out of my fucking path. A couple of times, a loose dog came up to me barking and I let out a primal yell at the thing and ran after it. It was a funny sight, I'm sure. Even my gazes at women were more intense and all-business. Frankly, I think this was attractive to them.

People's Reaction: This might have all been in my head, but I felt like people started to treat me differently--especially after several successive weeks of the experiment. Women responsed to manly aura mostly positively, though I started to notice more of them abruptly cross the street to avoid walking up to me as we approached one another in opposite directions. Even though I knew it in theory, I discovered that the unspoken vibe you put out is more nuanced and powerful than I imagined. Alpha-looking cats gave me angrier looks or respectful nods. Betas cowered and moved out of my way more.

After a while, I got tired of being pissed and distracted all the time and went back to a more reasonable rhythm. But, I've taken some valuable lessons from that experiment and adapted my practices accordingly.

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after 6 days i got this funny feeling in my dick area (i can't explain it better kind of like itching/tickling). it's very distracting. and when i'm out i'm horny as fuck, i literally see the world through different lens. instinct completely takes over the mind hahahhahha. probably that's what they mean when they advise to put yourself in sexual state first blablablah

what about jerking off a bit without cumming? i know it's pointless but that itching is really annoying and i can't go out today ;(

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Im on day number 5 without jerkin the gherkin right now.I can feel the amp building up inside me already.

Cant wait for the weekend.....

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(11-22-2011 04:47 AM)XXL Wrote:  after 6 days i got this funny feeling in my dick area (i can't explain it better kind of like itching/tickling). it's very distracting. and when i'm out i'm horny as fuck, i literally see the world through different lens. instinct completely takes over the mind hahahhahha. probably that's what they mean when they advise to put yourself in sexual state first blablablah

what about jerking off a bit without cumming? i know it's pointless but that itching is really annoying and i can't go out today ;(

I agree with the bolded. How does slightly milking the python fare in the abstinence rule?

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(11-22-2011 02:21 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(11-22-2011 04:47 AM)XXL Wrote:  after 6 days i got this funny feeling in my dick area (i can't explain it better kind of like itching/tickling). it's very distracting. and when i'm out i'm horny as fuck, i literally see the world through different lens. instinct completely takes over the mind hahahhahha. probably that's what they mean when they advise to put yourself in sexual state first blablablah

what about jerking off a bit without cumming? i know it's pointless but that itching is really annoying and i can't go out today ;(

I agree with the bolded. How does slightly milking the python fare in the abstinence rule?

Getting right to the end, and then stopping, will make you blow a MASSIVE load the next time. I've heard pornstars do this to achieve donut glazing proportions. And good luck with that, if you get close enough to jizzing you're hand will go into autopilot.

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(06-22-2011 01:04 PM)Sammy Wrote:  I remember reading somewhere, ages ago, that your body can tell the difference between masturbation and sex.

Masturbation lowers your testosterone and sex increases it. Could be broscience, so pinch of salt, etc.

Can you find the link or remember the anything about the title of that paper? That would be awesome. I've had similar thoughts as I've noticed that a jack-off run pretty much drains my sexual appetite while a lot of sex with my gf (or, before, with different chicks in close proximity) boosts it.

I think this makes sense. Probably has something to do with pheremones as I've also read a recent study that women can sense when a man has masturbated and are turned off by it.

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Be careful if you go long periods without busting a nut. I went a few weeks a while back because I was so busy and ended up shooting all over my couch, floor and coffee table.

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The more I cum , the hornier I get. I treated as a necessary thing- like brushing teeth.

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(11-22-2011 03:55 PM)houston Wrote:  Be careful if you go long periods without busting a nut. I went a few weeks a while back because I was so busy and ended up shooting all over my couch, floor and coffee table.

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(11-22-2011 04:47 AM)XXL Wrote:  what about jerking off a bit without cumming? i know it's pointless but that itching is really annoying and i can't go out today ;(

I wouldn't recommend this. Masturbating without jerking off will cause the seminal fluid to build up and get stored in your prostate leading to an inflamed prostate, i.e prostatitis. Chronic prostatitis is a painful condition. Once you get prostatitis it can be very difficult, if not impossible to cure.

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Interesting article all about Not cumming:

"This is why after a wank you can feel de-energized, lethargic or even depressed. They don’t call it a petit mort (little death) for nothing."


http://www.vice.com/read/cum-v8n5

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(11-22-2011 05:15 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(11-22-2011 04:47 AM)XXL Wrote:  what about jerking off a bit without cumming? i know it's pointless but that itching is really annoying and i can't go out today ;(

I wouldn't recommend this. Masturbating without jerking off will cause the seminal fluid to build up and get stored in your prostate leading to an inflamed prostate, i.e prostatitis. Chronic prostatitis is a painful condition. Once you get prostatitis it can be very difficult, if not impossible to cure.

for real? ok that is scary enough. i guess it's time for "sex or nothing" policy.

it's interesting dilemma. on one hand after 1 week i feel stronger, more alive, i kill my workout, girls seem more sexy to me and i noticed that my balls control behaviour more than my mind like i'm connected to my nature or something like that. on the other hand i want to shoot my cum inside girl. hmm..

i hope that sex only/zero porn really makes the difference. i'll share my experience after few weeks

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(11-22-2011 03:55 PM)houston Wrote:  Be careful if you go long periods without busting a nut. I went a few weeks a while back because I was so busy and ended up shooting all over my couch, floor and coffee table.

I think the Air Force tested something like that out to see how pilots would respond, the results were... unpleasant

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Christian decides to marry so he can finally ejaculate!

Quote:

"I really want to discharge semen," he said. "I mean I really, really, really want to really bad."

http://www.theonion.com/articles/desire-...-to-w,798/

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(11-22-2011 03:07 PM)G.L.Piggy Wrote:  

(06-22-2011 01:04 PM)Sammy Wrote:  I remember reading somewhere, ages ago, that your body can tell the difference between masturbation and sex.

Masturbation lowers your testosterone and sex increases it. Could be broscience, so pinch of salt, etc.

Can you find the link or remember the anything about the title of that paper? That would be awesome. I've had similar thoughts as I've noticed that a jack-off run pretty much drains my sexual appetite while a lot of sex with my gf (or, before, with different chicks in close proximity) boosts it.

I think this makes sense. Probably has something to do with pheremones as I've also read a recent study that women can sense when a man has masturbated and are turned off by it.

I'll have a look.