Post: #1

Here at Real Talk Sessions, a concerted effort is made to provide more than just "water is wet" game-related commentary, so if you've managed to find your way here, then that says something about the level at which your perspective as it pertains to this subject has reached.

This latest, powerful edition of the series was borne as the result of an ongoing private conversation between yours truly and another one of the most respected members of this community.

The original topic of discussion from that conversation will be given its own personal dissection in a future edition, but since this one is more than tangentially-related, and I felt a sense of urgency to discuss it first.

The Official Announcement of "Fuckboy" To The American Lexicon
The term fuckboy went mainstream earlier this year. The predictable, young, dumb, and full of cum sites, such as Jezebel, Huffington Post, and Slate all covered it in detail at various points of the year. While we can get into the various definitions of the term that have floated around for a minute, when you add them up and put them all together, they equal a low-quality male, one who American women are going out of their way to excoriate and embarrass at every turn.

The Fuckboy Congregation
A quick trip to social media pages such as the Fuckboy Files and The Fuckboy Bible provides some level of clarity is to why the "fuckboys" are feeling the wrath of the females they choose to pursue and in many cases end up getting with.

The female who is running "The Fuckboy Bible" on Twitter seems to have nothing better to do than spend her days going in on low-quality men. When you notice that from her posts she's a single mother with two children, likely from two different men, you start to understand why -- if she were married to the father of her children, she wouldn't give two fucks about the lowlifes who women who aren't her are dealing with.

I'm more than willing to concede that there are low-quality men out there playing the game in droves, but it's quite apparent to me that is what is lost
in this conversation is a dose of logic.

Men tend to go after women who they believe they can get, and the only options women have in men are the ones who present themselves to them.

Low-quality men aren't doing anything other than going after women whom they also perceive to be low-quality, and thus obtainable for them -- as far as they are concerned.

The vitriol exhibited towards these men is nothing more than a form of worship. It's an admission of their own realities. They hate "fuckboys" because they have to deal with "fuckboys". They've decided to make each other feel better about that reality with an ongoing campaign to publicly humiliate them, but it's nothing more than a fake form of empowerment, because at the end of the day, they might have left one behind, but they'll find themselves in short order in the arms of another, why?

You Ain't Got The Juice Like That
In a fairly popular meme that women pass around on social media, a woman is pining for a man who has a job, his own car, and his own place. The woman who has to openly call for such things does so because she's not used to having a man who already has them.



Higher-quality women who are used to dealing with high-quality men understand what's part of the game before the ball even goes up. It's a foregone conclusion that a higher-quality man who has shit together would have things that we would expect all grown-ass people to have.

However, it's these low-quality females who are used to dealing with bottom of the barrel men who have to pray to find a man who has his own car, doesn't live with his parents, and doesn't have to ask her for money, if she has any to begin with, and, as we know, most don't, especially if we're talking about ethnic women.

Low-quality women don't get the "fantasy men", they don't get the men who have their shit together, because they don't have the juice to get them. Instead, they get the men who are on their level. They may not like that fact, hell, I'm sure they abhor it, but it's not my job to tell them or anybody else what they want to hear just because they need to lie to themselves and need others to lie to them about their shitty realities and impending fates.

En Resumen
Low-quality women will remain low-quality women, and as a consequence, will continue to deal with "fuckboys" because they rather spend their time trying to put those men on blast, instead of investing in making themselves higher-quality women. Thus, the problem isn't the men, the problem is that these men are the only men who the members of The Fuckboy Congregation can get and keep around. Inevitably, they'll go from one to the next, and at best they can hope they don't end up having one of these men's children so that at least their lives remain redeemable, otherwise, they're as lost as the Sixers, taking L's for the greater good, only finding that the lottery balls will never bounce their way, their savior to never appear in the flesh.

Amen.

Post: #2

It is not true that higher-quality women on average get higher quality men. The most in-demand girl on the market is the 7. It was a revelation by actually dating very high-SMV girls that their sexual history is rather unimpressive. Rich betas are scared of the super top-tier and sugar daddy arrangements are far more common with 8s or even high 7s sometimes. A guy is alpha by virtue of his inner game, and the same guy that can be a super-alpha towards a 7, crumbles in incongruence and betahood around a 9. Add to the fact that she is only meeting a relatively small number of men per year, the percentage of those who meet the bill are dismal or nil, so her options are significantly more limited than the 7s.

Counterintuitive, but it's one of those things you don't work out until you actually date these women. You always imagine this to be a certain way, from the outside, but when on the inside it's completely different. Like seeing a picture of a tropical island beach, then getting there and feeling the ruggedness of the sand and the discomfort of the swarms.

Post: #3

(12-05-2015 12:40 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  It is not true that higher-quality women on average get higher quality men. The most in-demand girl on the market is the 7. It was a revelation by actually dating very high-SMV girls that their sexual history is rather unimpressive. Rich betas are scared of the super top-tier and sugar daddy arrangements are far more common with 8s or even high 7s sometimes. A guy is alpha by virtue of his inner game, and the same guy that can be a super-alpha towards a 7, crumbles in incongruence and betahood around a 9. Add to the fact that she is only meeting a relatively small number of men per year, the percentage of those who meet the bill are dismal or nil, so her options are significantly more limited than the 7s.

The main part of your argument is solely based off physical attractiveness, the rest of it misses me as it's overwrought with the alpha-beta dichotomy.

To be clear, I don't equate a woman's physical attractiveness to the overall quality of the woman. There are plenty of fake dimes out there who date losers, or fuck up relationships with good men when they have the opportunity to be with them, but if you're asserting that it's normal for real attractive women who actually have their shit together to fuck with men who don't have jobs, don't have their own cribs, etc. then you're completely off the mark.

Post: #4

Wasn't "fuckboy" originally a slang term for prison punks before it was repurposed by "strong, empowered" twenty-something birds to mean "guys who do things we don't like/won't kowtow to us"?

Post: #5

(12-05-2015 04:57 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 12:40 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  It is not true that higher-quality women on average get higher quality men. The most in-demand girl on the market is the 7. It was a revelation by actually dating very high-SMV girls that their sexual history is rather unimpressive. Rich betas are scared of the super top-tier and sugar daddy arrangements are far more common with 8s or even high 7s sometimes. A guy is alpha by virtue of his inner game, and the same guy that can be a super-alpha towards a 7, crumbles in incongruence and betahood around a 9. Add to the fact that she is only meeting a relatively small number of men per year, the percentage of those who meet the bill are dismal or nil, so her options are significantly more limited than the 7s.

The main part of your argument is solely based off physical attractiveness, the rest of it misses me as it's overwrought with the alpha-beta dichotomy.

To be clear, I don't equate a woman's physical attractiveness to the overall quality of the woman. There are plenty of fake dimes out there who date losers, or fuck up relationships with good men when they have the opportunity to be with them, but if you're asserting that it's normal for real attractive women who actually have their shit together to fuck with men who don't have jobs, don't have their own cribs, etc. then you're completely off the mark.

You are assuming these women care about your money, or about whether or not you are a "good man".

They don't.

Post: #6

(12-05-2015 05:08 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  You are assuming these women care about your money, or about whether or not you are a "good man".

They don't.

I don't recall stating anything about a man having money or about how good of a person he is as the central theme to this particular topic.

You assume that you're in a position to school me about women, save that for someone else, because I'm not the one.

When you actually have some real-world experience and aren't just parroting alpha-beta blahblah that you read on someone else's blog, then maybe you can have a seat at the table.

Until then.

Post: #7

(12-05-2015 05:34 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 05:08 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  You are assuming these women care about your money, or about whether or not you are a "good man".

They don't.

I don't recall stating anything about a man having money or about how good of a person he is as the central theme to this particular topic.

You assume that you're in a position to school me about women, save that for someone else, because I'm not the one.

When you actually have some real-world experience and aren't just parroting alpha-beta blahblah that you read on someone else's blog, then maybe you can have a seat at the table.

Until then.

I don't want to make things personal, but I'd probably bet my house that I have more experience than you do, given the things that you are writing.

Post: #8

(12-05-2015 05:37 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  I don't want to make things personal, but I'd probably bet my house that I have more experience than you do, given the things that you are writing.

So you want to be homeless?

You'll need a little more time and many contributions here before it would even make sense for someone like myself to take anything you have to say seriously.

At best you've proven you are skilled at trolling a thread, making the conversation about something that the topic isn't about, and then trying to big up your own unproven superiority.

Good luck with that.

Post: #9

(12-05-2015 05:47 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 05:37 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  I don't want to make things personal, but I'd probably bet my house that I have more experience than you do, given the things that you are writing.

So you want to be homeless?

You'll need a little more time and many contributions here before it would even make sense for someone like myself to take anything you have to say seriously.

At best you've proven you are skilled at trolling a thread, making the conversation about something that the topic isn't about, and then trying to big up your own unproven superiority.

Good luck with that.

I have few posts because I was out in the real world fucking hot women instead of spending my nights posting disinformation online.

Post: #10

(12-05-2015 05:49 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  I have few posts because I was out in the real world fucking hot women instead of spending my nights posting disinformation online.

Where are your threads and datasheets?

Why aren't other people in the community complimenting you and your information?

Who's hitting you up privately for advice and information?

All of those questions are realities in my case, you're welcome to do your own research if you must.

You know the saying about the loudest one in the room? It's kind of like the nobody who joins a message board calling himself "Jesus Christ" and purports to be fucking so many hot women.

I'll PM you my information so you can send me the deed to your house.

Post: #11

(12-05-2015 05:56 AM)jariel Wrote:  

(12-05-2015 05:49 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  I have few posts because I was out in the real world fucking hot women instead of spending my nights posting disinformation online.

Where are your threads and datasheets?

Why aren't other people in the community complimenting you and your information?

Who's hitting you up privately for advice and information?

All of those questions are realities in my case, you're welcome to do your own research if you must.

You know the saying about the loudest one in the room? It's kind of like the nobody who joins a message board calling himself "Jesus Christ" and purports to be fucking so many hot women.

I'll PM you my information so you can send me the deed to your house.

I know who I have fucked. I know what works and what doesn't. I have countless reference points that given me a solid understanding of what the world is like. I have used this information to do things that many men here probably couldn't even dream of doing. And everything you write here contradicts that. Which means you are simply spreading disinformation. I suppose it's true I cannot prove that to other users, but I certainly know that what you are writing on these boards is false, and I suspect you know that aswell.

Post: #12

(12-05-2015 05:59 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  I know who I have fucked. I know what works and what doesn't. I have countless reference points that given me a solid understanding of what the world is like. I have used this information to do things that most men here probably couldn't even dream of doing. And everything you write here contradicts that. Which means you are simply spreading disinformation. I suppose it's true I cannot prove that to other users, but I certainly know that what you are saying is false, and I suspect you know aswell.

If you're ballin' so hard, why are you here?

The fact that I'm saying that low-quality females are mad because all they can get are the low-quality men they call "fuckboys" is somehow false information?

I have years of work that I've put in here, information that I've attempted to share based off my own experiences, everybody here, whether they like me or not, knows my shit is real, my contributions are on every different part of the board on a variety of topics whether they are game-related or not.

You're just a newb who is making claims that you can only back up with more self-serving claims.

If you're doing so much shit that the average man can't dream of, then have some fuckin' respect for the members and the community that was built here before you showed up and that will be here after you get shown the door and do more than pump your chest out to veteran members and make self-aggrandizing statements that have no reason to be believed.

Post: #13

(12-05-2015 06:07 AM)jariel Wrote:  If you're ballin' so hard, why are you here?

The fact that I'm saying that low-quality females are mad because all they can get are the low-quality men they call "fuckboys" is somehow false information?

I have years of work that I've put in here, based off my own experiences, everybody here, whether they like me or not, knows my shit is real, my contributions are on every different part of the board on a variety of topics whether they are game-related or not.

You're just a newb who is making claims that you can only back up with more self-serving claims.

If you're doing so much shit that the average man can't dream of, then have some fuckin' respect for the members and the community that was built here before you showed up and that will be here after you get shown the door and do more than pump your chest out to veteran members and make self-aggrandizing statements that have no reason to be believed.

This forum is a very rules-strict forum comprised mainly of men who are capable of behaving. This is a trait that women don't exactly have much love for. If a guy like Steve Jabba spent two seconds on these boards, he would get banned instantly. And yet those are the guys fucking all the hot girls. It has taken me only two days skimming through all these threads to realize that it is mostly useless junk designed to assauge the egos of low-value men, precisely the type that would be prone to overintellectualizing seduction in the first place.

Post: #14

(12-05-2015 06:12 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  This forum is a very rules-strict forum comprised mainly of men who are capable of behaving. This is a trait that women don't exactly have much love for. If a guy like Steve Jabba spent two seconds on these boards, he would get banned instantly. And yet those are the guys fucking all the hot girls. It has taken me only two days skimming through all these threads to realize that it is mostly useless junk designed to assauge the egos of low-value men, precisely the type that would be prone to overintellectualizing seduction in the first place.

Jesus Christ, the omnipresent speed reader.

I feel there will be no resurrection for you this time around.

2/10 troll attempt.

Post: #15

(12-05-2015 06:57 AM)Windom Earle Wrote:  Jesus Christ, the omnipresent speed reader.
I feel there will be no resurrection for you this time around.
2/10 troll attempt.

The problem with this forum is that any real alpha, any man who would be capable of providing actual useful information about women, is quickly weeded out. Hence only the chodes remain, and you have guys with thousands upon thousands of posts actively contradicting everything that actually works.

Post: #16

In the short time I have been here, I have seen:

1. Guys attacking "YoungTallCool", a.k.a., envy of men who are higher-value than themselves and pull hotter girls.
2. Disparagement of sluts.
3. Disparagement of Western women, which from the tone clearly stems from an inability to get them.
4. Constant repetition of the notion that the hottest girls are harder, something that is true only when you are a chode.
5. Guys saying that women who fuck alphas are fake dimes (?).
6. Constant real genuine hatred of women all too present.
7. Constant repetition of the notion that women only want money or resources.
8. Posts that are 100% wrong and off-base with dozens of likes.

High-value men don't think like this. Too many men here are coming from the wrong place, a really bad place at that.

Post: #17

(12-05-2015 07:05 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  The problem with this forum is that any real alpha, any man who would be capable of providing actual useful information about women, is quickly weeded out. Hence only the chodes remain, and you have guys with thousands upon thousands of posts actively contradicting everything that actually works.

Then why are you here?

We are flush with chodes evidently.

Post: #18

Such a good thread already polluted...

Post: #19

Shame Jesus got this far. But happy real talk sessions are back.

Post: #20

We need more threads like this. I gave jariel a rep point for starting it.

As I like to say, we think in words. So he who controls words ultimately will control thought. And if you control the way people think, you control a large portion of reality itself, because our mindset greatly influences what we perceive as reality.

This is why lefties and Marxists win culture wars. They know this.

So time and again we see words or phrases pop up like "fuckboy," "bro," "rape culture," "male/ white privilege," and "street harassment" that define a "reality" that only exists in the minds of these people.

However, once these words and phrases get unleashed on the public, that becomes reality to us all. For example, those hard-working computer guys who used to get props for working long hours and keeping the company alive just got socially and intellectually reduced to mere "bros" because of a word. See how that works?

We need to call the left out on this.

Not only that, we need to invent our own words and phrases more often. "Cuckservative" is the biggest one that's come from the manosphere/alternative right, but it's not directed at the left. People need to do more of this.

Post: #21

I had a feeling Jesus Christ would get whacked from the time he got made. He was always belligerent.

Post: #22

So anyway, I thought those two websites were pretty hilarious. Would laugh at again.

Post: #23

(12-05-2015 07:18 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  In the short time I have been here, I have seen:

1. Guys attacking "YoungTallCool", a.k.a., envy of men who are higher-value than themselves and pull hotter girls.
2. Disparagement of sluts.
3. Disparagement of Western women, which from the tone clearly stems from an inability to get them.
4. Constant repetition of the notion that the hottest girls are harder, something that is true only when you are a chode.
5. Guys saying that women who fuck alphas are fake dimes (?).
6. Constant real genuine hatred of women all too present.
7. Constant repetition of the notion that women only want money or resources.
8. Posts that are 100% wrong and off-base with dozens of likes.

High-value men don't think like this. Too many men here are coming from the wrong place, a really bad place at that.

Belongs in the acid thread.

I love that number 3 is said with a tone of moral superiority. If I may add another: "Disparagement of goat-fucking, which from the tone clearly stems for a failure to fuck sufficient goats".

It's OK bro, you can dip your stick in all the balloons of fat you like. Good boy. Clean out those fleshy crevices with your 3 inch male shame.

Number 6 is pretty fascinating. This is the stuff we get from the feminists and the leftists generally. I doubt I'm speaking for myself when I say: nothing in the world makes me happier than an undamaged woman. My love for them is visceral and profound, unrivaled by anything.

Men on the other hand, have a severe tendency towards being complete faggots, especially this Jesus Christ guy.

Post: #24

(12-05-2015 05:49 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  I have few posts because I was out in the real world fucking hot women instead of spending my nights posting disinformation online.

Says the guy who made 150 posts in less than a week.

I guess he must have been laid up at home, resting his sore dick, or hiding out in a safehouse to escape the legion of 9's chasing him.

Fucking clown. Good riddance.

Post: #25

(12-04-2015 10:13 PM)jariel Wrote:  In a fairly popular meme that women pass around on social media, a woman is pining for a man who has a job, his own car, and his own place. The woman who has to openly call for such things does so because she's not used to having a man who already has them.



Higher-quality women who are used to dealing with high-quality men understand what's part of the game before the ball even goes up. It's a foregone conclusion that a higher-quality man who has shit together would have things that we would expect all grown-ass people to have.

However, it's these low-quality females who are used to dealing with bottom of the barrel men who have to pray to find a man who has his own car, doesn't live with his parents, and doesn't have to ask her for money, if she has any to begin with, and, as we know, most don't, especially if we're talking about ethnic women.

Low-quality women don't get the "fantasy men", they don't get the men who have their shit together, because they don't have the juice to get them. Instead, they get the men who are on their level. They may not like that fact, hell, I'm sure they abhor it, but it's not my job to tell them or anybody else what they want to hear just because they need to lie to themselves and need others to lie to them about their shitty realities and impending fates.

My reaction to the whole fuckboy thing was just to think that these bitches using the word were low-quality and had obviously given it up to dozens of so-called "fuckboys."

This post offers a far more eloquent explanation. +1 from me.

On the other side of the coin you see the same shit from guys on FB who can't get quality women hoping and praying to get one.