Post: #26

If this is the new popular fetish to have amongst deviants, why not make the most out of it and subvert it.
We know women always go with the crowd, follow the trend, etc.
Enter Cuckqueanry:

Quote:Cuckquean refers to a woman with an adulterous husband. In modern English it generally refers to the sexual fetish in which sexual gratification is gained from maintenance or observation of sexual relations by a man with a woman or a number of women besides his girlfriend, fiancé, wife or other long-term female sex partner, and therefore, the reversed gender roles of a cuckold relationship.

In the fetish cuckqueaning subculture, the male takes on the role of being sexually dominant, while the female takes on a submissive role. The wife usually only becomes involved with the man or his lover when he permits it—sometimes remaining altogether celibate.

This fetish can be completely heterosexual in which the wife does not participate or only participates with her husband, as well as bi-sexual, in which the wife participates with everyone, or makes contact with the other woman.

Example from urbandictionary:

Quote:Katie was such a cuckquean. Her boyfriend brought home some chick from the bar to fuck. They forced her to sit in the corner and watch, and then clean them both up while calling her dirty, humiliating names. Katie loved it.

Post: #27

(12-14-2015 08:44 AM)Celtic_Austrian Wrote:  If this is the new popular fetish to have amongst deviants, why not make the most out of it and subvert it.
We know women always go with the crowd, follow the trend, etc.
Enter Cuckqueanry:

Quote:Cuckquean refers to a woman with an adulterous husband. In modern English it generally refers to the sexual fetish in which sexual gratification is gained from maintenance or observation of sexual relations by a man with a woman or a number of women besides his girlfriend, fiancé, wife or other long-term female sex partner, and therefore, the reversed gender roles of a cuckold relationship.

In the fetish cuckqueaning subculture, the male takes on the role of being sexually dominant, while the female takes on a submissive role. The wife usually only becomes involved with the man or his lover when he permits it—sometimes remaining altogether celibate.

This fetish can be completely heterosexual in which the wife does not participate or only participates with her husband, as well as bi-sexual, in which the wife participates with everyone, or makes contact with the other woman.

Example from urbandictionary:

Quote:Katie was such a cuckquean. Her boyfriend brought home some chick from the bar to fuck. They forced her to sit in the corner and watch, and then clean them both up while calling her dirty, humiliating names. Katie loved it.

ie the status quo for Alphas?

Post: #28

Sorry to drag this one back up, guys, but there was an article on Last Psychiatrist - an older one - that actually might explain some of this. The article is about how people are not getting laid at home even though supposedly couples are spending more time at home.

Like a lot of TLP's stuff, it's a contrarian point of view and you have to sit and contemplate it a while, but if the premises are correct it's an intriguing idea: you can basically ascribe cuckoldry to a narcissistic personality disorder on the part of at least the male and possibly the female.

As TLP puts it:

Quote:Sex is a good proxy for a lot of things. The Time article offers a number of explanations for why a man might have a lower libido than his wife, but not the correct one: narcissism. In women, narcissism manifests itself as a greater libido, and in men, a lesser one.

You might think this is backwards, but it isn't. The wife is more involved with every part of the relationship-- the money, the jobs-- his and hers-- the troubles, everything-- that the man has no way to construct an artificial identity she'd believe. He can't pretend he's anything-- suave, a major force at work, a successful investor, whatever-- because she knows his reality in text message speed. She talks to her husband not once, but four or five times a day. What's he going to say she doesn't already know? Even legitimate successes are subdued because they are not at all surprises.

Here's the mistake: women say, "but I get turned on by him anyway, he doesn't have to impress me, he has me." And my unscientific poll of... some... women suggests they are more sexually open and experimental than ever. So what's wrong? And so maybe the wife thinks she's not hot enough? And catchers his glances at the waitress, the porn on the computer.

Well, the problem with his libido isn't how hot she is. He's a narcissist: the problem is his libido is that it depends on how hot he is.

It's what women used to go through. He looks in the mirror, sees a gut-- he doesn't feel sexy, he can't imagine she would find him sexy, so the libido falls. In the past he could at least draw confidence from the fact that he has a good job; but now he doesn't have a "good " job, it's an okay job, one that pays the bills, but not something that you can build an identity with. And anyway she has one just as good. What's his appeal?

The woman, by contrast, might actually feel better about her deteriorating body because she's attained value in other ways; and so she figures, "we are aging together." A narcissist does not want to hear that, ever. He can still penetrate you if you become old, fat and ugly; he can't do it if he becomes old, fat and ugly.

It's a double whammy of feeling emasculated, while his narcissistic personality structure demands that he be hyper-male, ideal male. He can't attain it. So he thinks you see him as less than masculine. So he doesn't bother with you.

So the wife asks, "is he picturing himself with other women when he has sex with me?" No; he's picturing someone else with other women when he does you. It's masturbation. It's not sexy if it's his bloated body underneath Sports Illustrated's Marisa Miller.

It's what the relatively recent fascination with MILFs is all about. The fantasy isn't that your wife is with another man; the fantasy is that your wife is hot enough that another man would want her. But this fantasy has nothing to do with how hot your wife actually is, it's about your identity: I'm so great that such a woman would want me.

The bolded part is most important, because this is one stone's throw away from cuckoldry. By watching his wife get drilled like an Alberta oil patch, the guy's ego is stroked: this bitch is taking ten inch cock but I have that special something that keeps her coming back to me. It's because our current generation is the most narcissistic one the world has ever known, and understandable so because it was parented by the second-most narcissistic one the world has ever known.

Note too the fact that narcissism manifests as a higher libido in women, and compare and contrast pretty much every article that we have on this site: women riding the cock carousel for as long as biology holds out simply because their egos are being fed sufficiently by the constant diet of dick.

Post: #29

(12-13-2015 02:59 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  Was just reading up on Bernie Sanders (http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/politics/b...ssay-1972/) and had this thought.

Cuckoldry seems to be close to becoming normalized in mainstream culture. I hope I don't need to argue this point, if you're on this forum you know what I'm talking about. The reasons why can pretty well be put together from the ideas posted on this forum, so I'm just going to take a stab at summarizing the cause based on an amalgam of those ideas.

You average male has grown up in a gynocentric culture. The education, media, parenting, even healthcare he receives is based on female group preference. The average man seemingly has no escape from this cage (I say "seemingly" since thinking is the only way out and most men are stripped of this ability early on).

So, much as the hostage whose life is in the hands of a captor, the average man sympathizes and identifies with the gynocentric culture that holds the keys to his very existence over his head. Moreover, he learns to submit his will completely. As the hostage agrees to lay down their life in the ensuing firefight, the cuckold agrees to surrender his manhood, his potential genetic legacy, to the gynocracy.

Thoughts? Other than, I smoke too much weed.

Sexual cuckoldry? It isn't normalised at all. You do need to argue that point, but don't bother because you'll fail.

You're conflating the term 'cuckservative' with sexual cuckoldry. Sure, there is a loose connection, but that is as far as it goes at the moment.

Post: #30

(12-19-2015 12:09 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 02:59 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  Was just reading up on Bernie Sanders (http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/politics/b...ssay-1972/) and had this thought.

Cuckoldry seems to be close to becoming normalized in mainstream culture. I hope I don't need to argue this point, if you're on this forum you know what I'm talking about. The reasons why can pretty well be put together from the ideas posted on this forum, so I'm just going to take a stab at summarizing the cause based on an amalgam of those ideas.

You average male has grown up in a gynocentric culture. The education, media, parenting, even healthcare he receives is based on female group preference. The average man seemingly has no escape from this cage (I say "seemingly" since thinking is the only way out and most men are stripped of this ability early on).

So, much as the hostage whose life is in the hands of a captor, the average man sympathizes and identifies with the gynocentric culture that holds the keys to his very existence over his head. Moreover, he learns to submit his will completely. As the hostage agrees to lay down their life in the ensuing firefight, the cuckold agrees to surrender his manhood, his potential genetic legacy, to the gynocracy.

Thoughts? Other than, I smoke too much weed.

Sexual cuckoldry? It isn't normalised at all. You do need to argue that point, but don't bother because you'll fail.

You're conflating the term 'cuckservative' with sexual cuckoldry. Sure, there is a loose connection, but that is as far as it goes at the moment.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/what-ope...inism.html

"As I write this, my children are asleep in their room, Loretta Lynn is on the stereo, and my wife is out on a date with a man named Paulo. It’s her second date this week; her fourth this month so far. If it goes like the others, she’ll come home in the middle of the night, crawl into bed beside me, and tell me all about how she and Paulo had sex. I won’t explode with anger or seethe with resentment. I’ll tell her it’s a hot story and I’m glad she had fun. It’s hot because she’s excited, and I’m glad because I’m a feminist."

Post: #31

(12-19-2015 12:20 AM)R_Niko Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 12:09 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 02:59 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  Was just reading up on Bernie Sanders (http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/politics/b...ssay-1972/) and had this thought.

Cuckoldry seems to be close to becoming normalized in mainstream culture. I hope I don't need to argue this point, if you're on this forum you know what I'm talking about. The reasons why can pretty well be put together from the ideas posted on this forum, so I'm just going to take a stab at summarizing the cause based on an amalgam of those ideas.

You average male has grown up in a gynocentric culture. The education, media, parenting, even healthcare he receives is based on female group preference. The average man seemingly has no escape from this cage (I say "seemingly" since thinking is the only way out and most men are stripped of this ability early on).

So, much as the hostage whose life is in the hands of a captor, the average man sympathizes and identifies with the gynocentric culture that holds the keys to his very existence over his head. Moreover, he learns to submit his will completely. As the hostage agrees to lay down their life in the ensuing firefight, the cuckold agrees to surrender his manhood, his potential genetic legacy, to the gynocracy.

Thoughts? Other than, I smoke too much weed.

Sexual cuckoldry? It isn't normalised at all. You do need to argue that point, but don't bother because you'll fail.

You're conflating the term 'cuckservative' with sexual cuckoldry. Sure, there is a loose connection, but that is as far as it goes at the moment.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/what-ope...inism.html

"As I write this, my children are asleep in their room, Loretta Lynn is on the stereo, and my wife is out on a date with a man named Paulo. It’s her second date this week; her fourth this month so far. If it goes like the others, she’ll come home in the middle of the night, crawl into bed beside me, and tell me all about how she and Paulo had sex. I won’t explode with anger or seethe with resentment. I’ll tell her it’s a hot story and I’m glad she had fun. It’s hot because she’s excited, and I’m glad because I’m a feminist."

Note that particular article is of very questionable authenticity. Although its author is a "Michael Sonmore", the guy is a ghost: he hasn't written another single article across the US other than this one, and when you run the article through Hacker Factor's Gender Guesser, the program concludes with a fair amount of statistical confidence that it was written by a woman, not a man.

But assuming that it is the work of a man, this excerpt seems to support my proposition that cuckoldry comes down to male narcissism: it's hot because she's excited. And she's in the same bed as me. I am a fucking awesome dude because I can keep a sex freak who fucks other men regularly.

Post: #32

Speaking for myself, cuckoldry is enough to cause me to burn bridges with women, directly pertaining to serious relationships.

Post: #33

You'll only find this sexual perversion in western societies, especially in the US and UK.

Post: #34

(12-19-2015 01:43 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 12:20 AM)R_Niko Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 12:09 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 02:59 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  Was just reading up on Bernie Sanders (http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/politics/b...ssay-1972/) and had this thought.

Cuckoldry seems to be close to becoming normalized in mainstream culture. I hope I don't need to argue this point, if you're on this forum you know what I'm talking about. The reasons why can pretty well be put together from the ideas posted on this forum, so I'm just going to take a stab at summarizing the cause based on an amalgam of those ideas.

You average male has grown up in a gynocentric culture. The education, media, parenting, even healthcare he receives is based on female group preference. The average man seemingly has no escape from this cage (I say "seemingly" since thinking is the only way out and most men are stripped of this ability early on).

So, much as the hostage whose life is in the hands of a captor, the average man sympathizes and identifies with the gynocentric culture that holds the keys to his very existence over his head. Moreover, he learns to submit his will completely. As the hostage agrees to lay down their life in the ensuing firefight, the cuckold agrees to surrender his manhood, his potential genetic legacy, to the gynocracy.

Thoughts? Other than, I smoke too much weed.

Sexual cuckoldry? It isn't normalised at all. You do need to argue that point, but don't bother because you'll fail.

You're conflating the term 'cuckservative' with sexual cuckoldry. Sure, there is a loose connection, but that is as far as it goes at the moment.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/what-ope...inism.html

"As I write this, my children are asleep in their room, Loretta Lynn is on the stereo, and my wife is out on a date with a man named Paulo. It’s her second date this week; her fourth this month so far. If it goes like the others, she’ll come home in the middle of the night, crawl into bed beside me, and tell me all about how she and Paulo had sex. I won’t explode with anger or seethe with resentment. I’ll tell her it’s a hot story and I’m glad she had fun. It’s hot because she’s excited, and I’m glad because I’m a feminist."

Note that particular article is of very questionable authenticity. Although its author is a "Michael Sonmore", the guy is a ghost: he hasn't written another single article across the US other than this one, and when you run the article through Hacker Factor's Gender Guesser, the program concludes with a fair amount of statistical confidence that it was written by a woman, not a man.

But assuming that it is the work of a man, this excerpt seems to support my proposition that cuckoldry comes down to male narcissism: it's hot because she's excited. And she's in the same bed as me. I am a fucking awesome dude because I can keep a sex freak who fucks other men regularly.

New York Magazine:

Total circulation
(2013) 410,010[1]

First issue April 8, 1968


..... this ain't some feminist blog, this is the big leagues. It represents a turn in our culture. Just because you and I don't read it and aren't affected doesn't mean others aren't. The fact they're even granting a platform for this nonsense is a sign of the times. Please don't try and dispute that.

Post: #35

(12-19-2015 03:21 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  New York Magazine:

Total circulation
(2013) 410,010[1]

First issue April 8, 1968


..... this ain't some feminist blog, this is the big leagues. It represents a turn in our culture. Just because you and I don't read it and aren't affected doesn't mean others aren't. The fact they're even granting a platform for this nonsense is a sign of the times. Please don't try and dispute that.

I agree the editors would not have run this piece unless they had some message they wanted to sell to their demographic in this. Personally I think this isn't much different to your average badly-written sex story they used to shoehorn between the fillies in your average titty magazine, except it's written for an audience that doesn't want to admit it reads porn (see: 40 Shades of Grey).

My point is that it's likely a fake, because it's highly doubtful a man wrote the story. It's amusing that women still have to hide behind male pen names to get their shit published. On the other hand, this sort of article would not have seen the light of day if the culture surrounding it had not corrupted by the cult of narcissism, so I take your point it's a sign of the times.

Post: #36

Sort of like Stockholm Syndrome, but more like "mimic" behavior but misplaced. Think jungle, apes, monkey see monkey do, but not quite. What does an alpha male do - often unknowledgeably, and somewhat aloof - when he snares women without much effort? Well he certainly has a major DGAF attitude. Besides solid frame, some obvious visual SMV, with a new chick he doesn't give 2 shits if she stays or leaves, she's replaceable in short-order if she doesn't play by his set of rules, and the more alpha the man, the more those rules are implied and need not even be uttered.

The Cuck explosion is, IMHO, beta males figuring;"Well I see how guys way more alpha than me act when I see them initially "get" girls, but that's all I really notice and don't understand the ingrained, internalized aspects, and deep underpinnings, so I'll just imitate what I see them do that seems to snare the girl but I'll also apply that to keeping the girl." Which is: DON'T GIVE A FUCK what charades the girl does before their eyes to invoke jealousy, etc, and let them do it to me too, but instead with my LTR girl, because, well, that's how the alphas keep their girls.

When you see a dude whose solid with women in action, do you really think all the beta onlookers are really paying attention to what matters most? Fuck no, they're observing still from a blue-pill indoctrinated mindset which is rooted heavily in jealousy, anger, frustration, fear, nervousness, hate, and impulse. Thus, they aren't learning shit, except maybe, how to imitate some isolated single behavior they think they have an understanding of, but are disinforming themselves and anchoring improper cause and effect in mimicing behavior they apply to a major base-line value act, like monogamous relations with women VERY important to them. like their LTR or wife. It's not unlike women's emotional actions and behavior, misinformed and impulsive. Cucks are literally being bitches.