Post: #1

Was just reading up on Bernie Sanders (http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/politics/b...ssay-1972/) and had this thought.

Cuckoldry seems to be close to becoming normalized in mainstream culture. I hope I don't need to argue this point, if you're on this forum you know what I'm talking about. The reasons why can pretty well be put together from the ideas posted on this forum, so I'm just going to take a stab at summarizing the cause based on an amalgam of those ideas.

You average male has grown up in a gynocentric culture. The education, media, parenting, even healthcare he receives is based on female group preference. The average man seemingly has no escape from this cage (I say "seemingly" since thinking is the only way out and most men are stripped of this ability early on).

So, much as the hostage whose life is in the hands of a captor, the average man sympathizes and identifies with the gynocentric culture that holds the keys to his very existence over his head. Moreover, he learns to submit his will completely. As the hostage agrees to lay down their life in the ensuing firefight, the cuckold agrees to surrender his manhood, his potential genetic legacy, to the gynocracy.

Thoughts? Other than, I smoke too much weed.

Post: #2

I understand what you're getting at, and I think cuckoldry is another agenda that may be pushed.

Remember though, that the left don't always get what they want, and not every agenda they push is successful. We have to consider that to tolerate a woman's cheating goes against a man's instinct, so it will never be mainstream, even if it becomes the norm amongst latte-sipping hipsters.

If you spend your time amongst students, academics, and those insufferable types who refer to themselves as "creatives", you might be tricked into thinking that their degeneracy is the "new normal". You should ask whether this bullshit will catch on with businessmen, builders, taxi drivers, machinists, and the whole plethora of masculine men who are essential to the running of society. They won't follow this, because they can't. It's against their nature.

Post: #3

Cuckoldry is the obvious end result of a slut culture. From slut culture you get to femdom and complete "freedom" for women to have sex with alpha males without consequence. It shows you the true feelings women have for pussy "beta males" - complete and utter revulsion and contempt, to the point that they want them to be physically hurt, and emotionally shattered.

The only problem is that no true alpha male is really turned on by any kind of ugly femdom type dominatrix, so you will still have to be attractive to catch their eye. Ofcourse if you reach sexual egalitarianism/marxism where everyone is ugly, then there will be no choice left, just the illusion of choice. this however will not happen.

Post: #4

There is an entire group of couples where the men want other men to fuck their wives/girlfriends. They (not the wives) are the major push for this kind of extreme slut behavior. My belief is that they do this through a beta-self preservation system.

The Beta thinking goes like this: I am married to the most wonderful women. She is beautiful and desirable. Other men want to fuck her. She will eventually want to leave me. If I let other Alpha men fuck her, she will get the fucking she truly wants and will stay with me. I don't get a lot of sex and watch a lot of porn. I have gotten into cuckold porn. It will get me off to watch Alpha guys fuck my girl. It proves she is desirable. . .

The beta male spiral of cuckoldry continues on from there, but you get the idea. I don't know how this community feels about being the alpha solicited by these guys to fuck their wives, but that shit can get real weird real fast.

Post: #5

I think the cuckhold perversion comes from both men and women.

Men are attracted to a woman's "freedom". They love her whimsical nature. She is out there in the world prancing away, free as a bird, and up-for grabs. We love this about them. However once we catch them, possess them, and mold them into our own image they lose their shine. They no longer have that free-flowing feminine quality to them. It's why if we think our girlfriend might be interested in another guy we get jealous and suddenly find ourselves "seeing her worth".

All of that is pretty natural and as a husband he needs to develop enough to grow past it. The perversion of that would be becoming a cuckhold.

Women love to be adored and wanted. They long to be the Goddess, adored by all men. To be a freedom, where the possibilities of what her life will be are endless. If she's married, she's no longer free and is beset with finitude. They also secretly desire to pit men against each other to see who will be masculine enough to win her. They also love to bring a man into his emotions, though lose respect for him if they succeed.

All of that is pretty natural and as a wife she needs to develop enough to grow past it. The perversion of that would be cuckholding her husband.

Since we live in a time of perversion where we not just accept but actually celebrate homosexuality, transgenderism, and adultery so it's not too surprising to see cuckholdry next in line, probably followed by pedophila, incest, dead people, animals, and aliens (when they arrive).

All of that is a complete repudiation of the masculine and embracing of the feminine (The lowest, undeveloped manifestation of it that is.)

Post: #6

I think it evolved from the swinger parties of the 70's.

Post: #7

(12-13-2015 05:20 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  I understand what you're getting at, and I think cuckoldry is another agenda that may be pushed.

Remember though, that the left don't always get what they want, and not every agenda they push is successful. We have to consider that to tolerate a woman's cheating goes against a man's instinct, so it will never be mainstream, even if it becomes the norm amongst latte-sipping hipsters.

Which is why they attempt to short circuit that natural reaction by rebranding it as "open relationships", and with all the propaganda that she's free to sleep around unless you explicitly agree that it's against the rules of the relationship.

Post: #8

The fact that the traitorous Establishment Conservatives got so upset about the cuckservative meme lends me to believe that they might be "doth protesting too much" or whatever that expression is.

When I first learned what the word meant I thought of it as an ultimate treachery a woman could pull of.

That some men are into it is a pretty damning indictment of American culture.

Post: #9

(12-13-2015 05:20 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  If you spend your time amongst students, academics, and those insufferable types who refer to themselves as "creatives", you might be tricked into thinking that their degeneracy is the "new normal". You should ask whether this bullshit will catch on with businessmen, builders, taxi drivers, machinists, and the whole plethora of masculine men who are essential to the running of society. They won't follow this, because they can't. It's against their nature.

Note that businessmen are increasingly female, and that taxi drivers are going the way of horse buggy drivers. Men are being regarded as less and less essential to the running of society. "Against their nature" is the very point. Masculinity is being bred out of us at the exact rate it is no longer economically necessary.

(12-13-2015 06:34 PM)Onto Wrote:  I think the cuckhold perversion comes from both men and women.

Men are attracted to a woman's "freedom". They love her whimsical nature. She is out there in the world prancing away, free as a bird, and up-for grabs. We love this about them.

I don't. It's actually my #1 turn off.

(12-13-2015 07:01 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  I think it evolved from the swinger parties of the 70's.

Sharing and cuckolding are two different things..

Post: #10

Cuckold fetishism (ie. guys who get off on watching their wife get fucked by other men) is simply closeted homosexuality. Look at any cuckold porn, it emphasizes the dude. Gay guys are true misogynists at heart and can get off on watching women get degraded. It is simply them lusting after the guy fucking their beard (who they don't give a shit about anyway).

I strongly suspect there is a lot of straight porn that is actually targeted towards gay guys.

Post: #11

It is indirect cuckoldry, ie tolerating past partners.

Post: #12

10000000000000000% queer.

   

Post: #13

This "black on white" cuckold thing is a very marginal fetish. It is temporary. It existed to a certain extent in the 1970's when the blackspoitation films and later, funk, soul, and disco was popular. Then came 1981 with Reagan, rock, and the preppy handbook (remember that?) and black culture went out the window in a heartbeat. Its the same thing today. This period is HIGHLY reminiscent of the '79-80 period when everyone turned against Carter, disco, and the stagflation of the 70's and everyone came to despise liberals. Once Reagan II is in office (either Trump or Cruz), everything will be fine and the cuckold fetish will go away like polyester and disco.

Post: #14

Cuckoldry is on the rise because:
- there are a lot of beta males with limited sexual options in large part because of blue pill conditioning
- porn is training young men to be cuckolds (to get off on watching other people fuck instead of actually fucking)

That's basically it in a nutshell.

Post: #15

Cuckoldry destroyed Celtic Culture, to the point Gwenhwyfar shaming works in real life.

Post: #16

Cuckolds have been around since at least Viking ages (probably much earlier but that's as early as I've read up on that particular aspect of history), where it was customary to basically loan your wife and whore her out to your guest, to be polite. It's a fucked up, probably homoerotic fetish to be sure .

Post: #17

(12-13-2015 11:02 PM)Hades Wrote:  Cuckolds have been around since at least Viking ages (probably much earlier but that's as early as I've read up on that particular aspect of history), where it was customary to basically loan your wife and whore her out to your guest, to be polite. It's a fucked up, probably homoerotic fetish to be sure .

Again, that's not quite the same thing. What you're talking about is male dominated. Cuckoldry is female dominated, ie it's her choice who she fucks, and she does so to demean her husband.

Post: #18

Some guys feel they need validation that their woman is sexy to other men. It is the wrong road to go down. He finds out too late men and women are on different playing fields. ANY reasonably attractive woman can get fucked any day of the week. There is no validation. By whoring her out he is communicating to her that she can just go do what ever the hell she wants with no consequences. So if the worst happens and she gets knocked up, he gets fucked in the relationship and not her. Women are not supposed to go fucking around behind or in front of their man. A man can fuck around behind her back and still love her as long as he doesnt screw up and get someone else pregnant.

Post: #19

Cuckoldry and higher civilization don't match, it will be mostly found on tribal societies and declining civilizations. The fact that men not only allow their women to be fucked by other guys but actually want that is an indicator of how far we have fallen.

It is a societal problem mainly, not biological in my opinion. Most men are weak and simple-minded when it comes to emotional intelligence, we are naturally(and due to our brainwashing) naive and romantic, we are programmed to fall in love and settle down with a woman and do whatever we have to do to please her. So, when we combine that with female nature let loose and the idea that a girl fucking many guys is the same as a guy fucking many girls, it creates the idea that pleasing your woman includes letting her fuck other guys because there is no problem in that, it does not make you less of a man.

Well, IT DOES! A man who is an accepting cuck is less of a man and deserves less respect simply because of that. Cucks should not be talked to, not hired, their business should be boycotted. They are traitors not only to men, but they try to push one of the most dangerous ideas ever! If cuckoldry ever becomes commonly accepted, the West will be a 100% unlivable, Id rather not pass on my genes than having the chance of my offspring becoming cucks to please a random whore.

(But never mind, the West will collapse long before cuckoldry is accepted)

Post: #20

I think cuckoldry is just addiction to a perverse form of "high" - it's deviant thrill seeking.

My theory is based on a key assumption presented by Sperm Wars. It's a book that has had substantial parts debunked, so understood if not everybody is willing to follow my logic at this point. But I would say one part of Sperm Wars is correct, or at least, has a kernel of truth to it - that of sperm competition when a man sees his woman mating with another man. There is a certain amount of internal clockwork going on that really gets a man's competitive juices flowing (no pun intended) in a scenario like this. I know I've found it an adrenaline rush when I see a girl I am smashing flirting with another guy - i instinctively want to grab her, bring her to a corner, and fuck her harder than I have ever fucked. It is a feeling of uneasy exhiliration. Kind of like a roller coaster.

I suspect the cuckoldry fetish occurs when some men don't know how to let go of this kind of adrenaline rush - they get addicted to the high that it presents, and such addiction overwhelms their desire to, say, have a monogamous wife or a more manhood affirming sex life.

Alternatively, given the average demographics of the swinger population, it could just be a way for a beta to find his decidedly below average looking wife sexier than she actually is ie. if you can't get an erection during normal sex because your wife is devoid of attractiveness, maybe the forces of sperm wars can help you out.

Post: #21

But I suspect cuckoldry's rise is due to porn, as porn = continuous subconscious conditioning of watching other men fuck the woman you desire. Which is why quitting porn is probably a healthy thing, as we have all been reiterating here.

Post: #22

(12-13-2015 08:05 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  It is indirect cuckoldry, ie tolerating past partners.

I see indirect or retro-actif cuckoldry as bringing up the existing brood as your own which causes the beta to have less of his own children with the ready-made mother than he would have had otherwise.

In short, the cuckold has no power over his wife but he is under the same burden of responsibility for her. It is a man who cannot enforce the oath of the marriage covenant.

Unless you are from a religious background where women are expected to marry young, then tolerating past partners is going to be the norm if you want to form relationships.

Post: #23

I suspect the prominence of cuckoldry is mainly because we can see more of it on our porn sites. It remains a tiny minority of sexual deviant behaviour, but it's novel, so we tend to notice it more. Don't mistake the media doing more stories about it as an actual rise in its existence: the media is, always and everywhere, devoted to getting a tingle out of the amydgala, and deviant practices are one way to do it.

The other reason you're seeing it more than, say, incest or bestiality on porn sites is because it's not illegal. And even then I'm seeing a lot of "NOT sister and brother" videos crop up on the front page of xhamster - because you can still plead that there's no genetic relationship between the actors whilst it's pretty difficult to fake them being of a different species. Gonzo is passe; Lesbian is passe; gay is passe; double and triple and DVDA are all passe; choking and rough porn are passe; the corporate overlords have to find something to attract your attention.

Post: #24

Strictly speaking, Stochkholm syndrome refers to an amorous reaction to a traumatic event, whereas in cuckoldry the "amorous" reaction precedes the traumatic event.

Post: #25

If you look at porn, I notice a rise of this kind of stuff. Interracial is there for many years. But its in genral either black male - white female or white male and asian female. I even seen those strapon stuff. There are often those topics if now people can release their secret desires or if the media creates those desire. There was a report that Anal sex is today more common then 50 years ago, because of the influence of porn. So it seems like a small group is pushing this agenda and some people take it.
When you look close its always about dominance and humiliation. About power. Who fucks the women the best? The big dick animalic black guy over the wimpy white husband. Or the fit, white male over the nerd loser Asian. Our society is run by power and dominance, who is the alpha? And nothing proofs this more then sexual power. This is the true nature.

Strong, independent females, Sex and the City type, women deserve pleasure, have fun before you settle down. If you have lower self esteem or question your sexual abilities, those guys may think, well she deserve the pleasure she can get. I split sex and love. She is my women and I allow / she take what she needs. From the experience I had, beside the stuff women do and the fantasies they have, most would think lower of the man if he allows something like this.
Its not even cheating, this is a different level.

Its a mix between thirst and low self esteem. Keep the women you got for every sake. The giant media agenda out there want to erase all values we have, all boundaries.