Post: #1

Hi,
We all know that Toronto and London sucks for gaming (been there, I approve ).
According to your experience which area in general is the worst to game in the US.
I would make the hypothesis that it would be L.A. or Miami since you will need money or fame before a girl even lay an eye on you and you will only spend time with flakey numbers.
The criteria should be accessibility, bitchyness and beauty.

Post: #2

(02-13-2016 03:51 PM)atlantis974 Wrote:  I would make the hypothesis that it would be L.A. or Miami since you will need money or fame before a girl even lay an eye on you and you will only spend time with flakey numbers.

Post: #3

Albuquerque, NM

It's easy as hell to get 3-5's here, but there are so few 7's+ it's depressing. I'll see about one 7 a week walking around, and legit 8/9 maybe once every month or two if that.

If you want quantity over quality, you could bang out 100+ women a year in this town if you wanted.

There's virtually no day game here at all, everything is night game or online.

Post: #4

I'll just leave this here..

Post: #5

(02-13-2016 04:43 PM)Kale_anonymous Wrote:  I'll just leave this here..

That is funny because that's the map that got this idea into my head.
I was wondering what were the criteria that would make a place hard to game.
Less women then men, rich cities, weather, feminism omnipresence, etc.

Post: #6

Midwest, most of the women are obese and the ones that aren't are boring outside of ONS.

Post: #7

(02-13-2016 03:58 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 03:51 PM)atlantis974 Wrote:  I would make the hypothesis that it would be L.A. or Miami since you will need money or fame before a girl even lay an eye on you and you will only spend time with flakey numbers.

It's this kind of stuff that confuses the hell out of me, especially the Miami part. It seriously makes me wonder how much time the people who say those things spend in those two cities, and more important, what they did when they were there. I need to do an estimate of how much it would cost me to fly all the guys who say these things about Miami and Los Angeles to those two cities and spend some serious time just observing them to try to begin to understand what the hell they are talking about. For me, it would be well worth it. After I finish with that, I need to figure which guys go undefeated in Mexico with no Spanish skills and no effort and do the same. It may be the best investment I ever make.

Post: #8

(02-13-2016 04:42 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  Albuquerque, NM

It's easy as hell to get 3-5's here, but there are so few 7's+ it's depressing. I'll see about one 7 a week walking around, and legit 8/9 maybe once every month or two if that.

If you want quantity over quality, you could bang out 100+ women a year in this town if you wanted.

There's virtually no day game here at all, everything is night game or online.

Haven't been there in a while, but it seems to me that Santa Fe would be even worse since it can really be an aging town for people without kids, and gay couples.

Seems like you could go a few days in Santa Fe without seeing a good looking woman.

Post: #9

(02-13-2016 06:36 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 04:42 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  Albuquerque, NM

It's easy as hell to get 3-5's here, but there are so few 7's+ it's depressing. I'll see about one 7 a week walking around, and legit 8/9 maybe once every month or two if that.

If you want quantity over quality, you could bang out 100+ women a year in this town if you wanted.

There's virtually no day game here at all, everything is night game or online.

Haven't been there in a while, but it seems to me that Santa Fe would be even worse since it can really be an aging town for people without kids, and gay couples.

Seems like you could go a few days in Santa Fe without seeing a good looking woman.

I actually see quite a few decent girls when I head up to Santa Fe. I don't know why, but when I walk around the plaza it's remarkably better than abq.

Post: #10

(02-13-2016 06:09 PM)CamelToe Wrote:  Midwest, most of the women are obese and the ones that aren't are boring outside of ONS.

Saint Louis is not the worst place in america and it is in the midwest. Sure tons of fatties... but girls are loose and freindly(ish) enough. They like to fucking drink here as well. Raised on Anheuser

Post: #11

In no particular order some bad cities in US to game are Washington, DC, Miami, San Jose, Norfolk (VA), Houston (for a 1st tier city it has surprisingly few hotties outside of college areas like Rice).

Post: #12

Richmond Va was my worst trip. D.C. is pretty bad but from my experience I always meet tourists on my trips there, so it worked.

Post: #13

(02-13-2016 09:40 PM)godzilla Wrote:  Richmond Va was my worst trip. D.C. is pretty bad but from my experience I always meet tourists on my trips there, so it worked.

Godzilla do you think it might be a good idea to not revisit a city you've already destroyed?

Post: #14

Worst areas?

Pretty much any small town (excluding college towns) not anywhere near a major metro area.

I know some guys here think small town America has these hot hidden gems but those hidden gems are married off before they are 22. The few that are left are garbage. Again, I've seen some people here really overstate the quality of women outside of major metro areas; acting like small town America is the land of feminine women or something. It's not.

The real issue is lack of numbers to work with.

I much rather be in LA, San Francisco, or DC vs small town America. In the former, you have endless prospects to work with, more variety (in both looks and personality), and have an odd chance of catching a decent chick from time to time (usually its a small town chick who moved to the city for work/passion; not city life).

With small town America, the well runs dry completely for both bangs and potential LTRs within 1-4 weeks. Now if you do a short-term visit, these towns can be goldmines for easy pussy. Outsider and novelty factors can go a long way in a place where nothing exciting happens.

But anything longer than a month and if you don't have a major city near by, you will be trapped in a pussy desert. It's horrible. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. At least in the cities, you can fight the good fight. In small town America, there is no fight; you are simply knocked out before the first round even begins.

Post: #15

(02-13-2016 09:10 PM)TripleG Wrote:  In no particular order some bad cities in US to game are Washington, DC, Miami, San Jose, Norfolk (VA), Houston (for a 1st tier city it has surprisingly few hotties outside of college areas like Rice).

What areas in Houston have you tried?

Head to Montrose on a weekend night, plenty of broads to go around.
Highland Village attracts high quality girls too.
The Galleria is just a numbers game brah.

Post: #16

Just came back from the US trip of mine. 3 weeks and 6 very hot girls. As an European it's so insanely easy to get laid in cities like Denver, Miami and New York, it's not even funny anymore. In no other country do I ever openly get called handsome or stared down by women. Daygame is EXTREMELY easy given how Americans are actually used to have random chitchat with strangers. You don't have to break down a wall initially as you do in Eastern Europe.

I have no idea why that is, but if you live in the US and you're having issues with pussy, I'd suggest moving to a major metro area. From anything I've experienced these are the best cities that I've been to:

San Diego, Miami (downtown (omg wholefoods...), SoBe, avoid anything else), New York, Austin, Denver (Aspen), Houston

I'd avoid LA unless you're in the movie industry and San Francisco. Too many rich beta dudes skewing the whole equasion. But yeah, for plain sex the US is awesome. Finding a quality girl.. not sure.

Post: #17

(02-14-2016 02:31 PM)trainwreck Wrote:  Just came back from the US trip of mine. 3 weeks and 6 very hot girls. As an European it's so insanely easy to get laid in cities like Denver, Miami and New York, it's not even funny anymore. In no other country do I ever openly get called handsome or stared down by women. Daygame is EXTREMELY easy given how Americans are actually used to have random chitchat with strangers. You don't have to break down a wall initially as you do in Eastern Europe.

I have no idea why that is, but if you live in the US and you're having issues with pussy, I'd suggest moving to a major metro area. From anything I've experienced these are the best cities that I've been to:

San Diego, Miami (downtown (omg wholefoods...), SoBe, avoid anything else), New York, Austin, Denver (Aspen), Houston

I'd avoid LA unless you're in the movie industry and San Francisco. Too many rich beta dudes skewing the whole equasion. But yeah, for plain sex the US is awesome. Finding a quality girl.. not sure.

Love Denver. As a typical American guy from the midwest tho its a bit harder and often referred to as "Menver" although of course tons of girls moving there bc of good econ. weed/ CU Boulder etc. But still so many of us guys love going out there because of the quality of life is so high.

Could you elaborate on your time in Aspen? Were you only in Aspen or did you swoop in Denver for a short time as well?

Would also love to hear your thoughts on San Deigo as it is prob my fav US city just in terms of everyday living but havent been out there for more than 4 days so I am no means an expert

Post: #18

(02-14-2016 03:12 PM)Kale_anonymous Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 02:31 PM)trainwreck Wrote:  Just came back from the US trip of mine. 3 weeks and 6 very hot girls. As an European it's so insanely easy to get laid in cities like Denver, Miami and New York, it's not even funny anymore. In no other country do I ever openly get called handsome or stared down by women. Daygame is EXTREMELY easy given how Americans are actually used to have random chitchat with strangers. You don't have to break down a wall initially as you do in Eastern Europe.

I have no idea why that is, but if you live in the US and you're having issues with pussy, I'd suggest moving to a major metro area. From anything I've experienced these are the best cities that I've been to:

San Diego, Miami (downtown (omg wholefoods...), SoBe, avoid anything else), New York, Austin, Denver (Aspen), Houston

I'd avoid LA unless you're in the movie industry and San Francisco. Too many rich beta dudes skewing the whole equasion. But yeah, for plain sex the US is awesome. Finding a quality girl.. not sure.

Love Denver. As a typical American guy from the midwest tho its a bit harder and often referred to as "Menver" although of course tons of girls moving there bc of good econ. weed/ CU Boulder etc. But still so many of us guys love going out there because of the quality of life is so high.

Could you elaborate on your time in Aspen? Were you only in Aspen or did you swoop in Denver for a short time as well?

Would also love to hear your thoughts on San Deigo as it is prob my fav US city just in terms of everyday living but havent been out there for more than 4 days so I am no means an expert

Forgot to add - The hostel scene in Miami is AMAZING and I had a wonderful time there. For any guy of any background it should be fruitful. Bikini hostel is fine and cheap / around the corner from whole foods. Make sure you do cashback from wholefoods for free instead of getting hit w Credit card fees etc. Also its comical how if you stay at mostly any hostel they have special relationships with the clubs so you pay 20 and can go (usually includes a few drinks). Otherwise your ass will be waiting in line for years to get in and you 99.9999% will not get in. If you go with the hostel its an UNREAL feeling blowing past the models waiting in line while you have a special wristband. One of the only times ive felt that much power

Post: #19

(02-14-2016 03:12 PM)Kale_anonymous Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 02:31 PM)trainwreck Wrote:  Just came back from the US trip of mine. 3 weeks and 6 very hot girls. As an European it's so insanely easy to get laid in cities like Denver, Miami and New York, it's not even funny anymore. In no other country do I ever openly get called handsome or stared down by women. Daygame is EXTREMELY easy given how Americans are actually used to have random chitchat with strangers. You don't have to break down a wall initially as you do in Eastern Europe.

I have no idea why that is, but if you live in the US and you're having issues with pussy, I'd suggest moving to a major metro area. From anything I've experienced these are the best cities that I've been to:

San Diego, Miami (downtown (omg wholefoods...), SoBe, avoid anything else), New York, Austin, Denver (Aspen), Houston

I'd avoid LA unless you're in the movie industry and San Francisco. Too many rich beta dudes skewing the whole equasion. But yeah, for plain sex the US is awesome. Finding a quality girl.. not sure.

Love Denver. As a typical American guy from the midwest tho its a bit harder and often referred to as "Menver" although of course tons of girls moving there bc of good econ. weed/ CU Boulder etc. But still so many of us guys love going out there because of the quality of life is so high.

Could you elaborate on your time in Aspen? Were you only in Aspen or did you swoop in Denver for a short time as well?

Would also love to hear your thoughts on San Deigo as it is prob my fav US city just in terms of everyday living but havent been out there for more than 4 days so I am no means an expert

Aspen is amazing if you have the pocket for it. A decent apartment goes for about 1k a night, so you can figure out what kind of people usually go there. Was there during the XGames so it was quite heavy on the guy side, but it didn't seem to matter much. I have a friend who lives there so we just stayed at his place, which made the whole ordeal cheaper. Aspen is the skinniest city in the US and if you're exhausted from skiing after a few hours, you'll run into 70yr old guys on the gondola still going strong after having been on the slope all day. We set up a double date with 2 girls me and my friend met on SeekingArrangement - rich girls looking for rich guys to hang out and party with. We banged them both in the same room (they wanted it lol) a few hours later. But I was getting great response. There's a lot of ski bum guys living there all year and just getting by with some job related to the skiing industry, so if you come in for a weekend and you're an interesting foreigner with stories to tell.. well that's exactly what these hot first world problem-ed girls want.

San Diego I love because of the generally very laid back vibe. Great mexican food, a lot of hot mexican girls and you still can find the typical american blonde among the crowd. Club game is meh since it closes at 2am but in general, tinder and daygame make up for it. Also quite an outdoorsy place, so people tend to be fit.

Post: #20

(02-13-2016 09:10 PM)TripleG Wrote:  In no particular order some bad cities in US to game are Washington, DC, Miami, San Jose, Norfolk (VA), Houston (for a 1st tier city it has surprisingly few hotties outside of college areas like Rice).

Just out of curiosity, are you experiences with Houston recent? I would have agreed with you 4 or 5 years ago.

I posted this in another thread but, I think its a combination of things that have Houston on the upswing. Low cost of living and good jobs is bringing in more college grads. The skyrocketing cost of living in Austin has a lot of young females choosing Houston after school. The relatively late repatriation of the downtown is bringing in a lot of girls who would have lived in the burbs 5 to 10 years ago. The Midtown scene has come a long way since I was there.

One of the things I love about this travel forum is that the pussy dynamics of a city are constantly in flux. Throw my vote in for Houston being a low-key good place for game.

As far as the worst places though, rural towns that are nowhere near a college are barren waste lands. If there ever were quaint little towns full of cute and naive farmer's daughters, they have long since ceased to exist. Now they are full of obesity statistics, drug addicts, minimum wage jobs, and the stale smell of failure for anyone who hasn't left yet.

Post: #21

(02-14-2016 04:53 PM)Htownanddown Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 09:10 PM)TripleG Wrote:  In no particular order some bad cities in US to game are Washington, DC, Miami, San Jose, Norfolk (VA), Houston (for a 1st tier city it has surprisingly few hotties outside of college areas like Rice).

Just out of curiosity, are your experiences with Houston recent? I would have agreed with you 4 or 5 years ago.

I posted this in another thread but, I think its a combination of things that have Houston on the upswing. Low cost of living and good jobs is bringing in more college grads. The skyrocketing cost of living in Austin has a lot of young females choosing Houston after school. The relatively late repatriation of the downtown is bringing in a lot of girls who would have lived in the burbs 5 to 10 years ago. The Midtown scene has come a long way since I was there.

One of the things I love about this travel forum is that the pussy dynamics of a city are constantly in flux. Throw my vote in for Houston being a low-key good place for game.

As far as the worst places though, rural towns that are nowhere near a college are barren waste lands. If there ever were quaint little towns full of cute and naive farmer's daughters, they have long since ceased to exist. Now they are full of obesity statistics, drug addicts, minimum wage jobs, and the stale smell of failure for anyone who hasn't left yet.

Post: #22

(02-14-2016 04:53 PM)Htownanddown Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 09:10 PM)TripleG Wrote:  In no particular order some bad cities in US to game are Washington, DC, Miami, San Jose, Norfolk (VA), Houston (for a 1st tier city it has surprisingly few hotties outside of college areas like Rice).

Just out of curiosity, are you experiences with Houston recent? I would have agreed with you 4 or 5 years ago.

I posted this in another thread but, I think its a combination of things that have Houston on the upswing. Low cost of living and good jobs is bringing in more college grads. The skyrocketing cost of living in Austin has a lot of young females choosing Houston after school. The relatively late repatriation of the downtown is bringing in a lot of girls who would have lived in the burbs 5 to 10 years ago. The Midtown scene has come a long way since I was there.

One of the things I love about this travel forum is that the pussy dynamics of a city are constantly in flux. Throw my vote in for Houston being a low-key good place for game.

As far as the worst places though, rural towns that are nowhere near a college are barren waste lands. If there ever were quaint little towns full of cute and naive farmer's daughters, they have long since ceased to exist. Now they are full of obesity statistics, drug addicts, minimum wage jobs, and the stale smell of failure for anyone who hasn't left yet.

Where do you think are the worst parts to game in Houston?

After years Dallas' nightlife has become fragmented, some folks party in Uptown but now the suburbs have their districts too. This was not the case 10 years ago. The Shops at Legacy did not exist nor did Addison Circle.

In Houston I don't see this happening as much, even bitches from Katy and Pearland drive their asses to Midtown because Katy and The Woodlands are kinda dead on a Sat night.

Also, do you consider The Woodlands and Conroe to be part of htown? It's weird how y'all don't (I'm in Dallas).

I was told the area around UH gets kinda shady at night.

Post: #23

trainwreck, give me a Miami breakdown, please.

Post: #24

(02-14-2016 04:53 PM)Htownanddown Wrote:  

(02-13-2016 09:10 PM)TripleG Wrote:  In no particular order some bad cities in US to game are Washington, DC, Miami, San Jose, Norfolk (VA), Houston (for a 1st tier city it has surprisingly few hotties outside of college areas like Rice).

Just out of curiosity, are you experiences with Houston recent? I would have agreed with you 4 or 5 years ago.

I posted this in another thread but, I think its a combination of things that have Houston on the upswing. Low cost of living and good jobs is bringing in more college grads. The skyrocketing cost of living in Austin has a lot of young females choosing Houston after school. The relatively late repatriation of the downtown is bringing in a lot of girls who would have lived in the burbs 5 to 10 years ago. The Midtown scene has come a long way since I was there.

One of the things I love about this travel forum is that the pussy dynamics of a city are constantly in flux. Throw my vote in for Houston being a low-key good place for game.

As far as the worst places though, rural towns that are nowhere near a college are barren waste lands. If there ever were quaint little towns full of cute and naive farmer's daughters, they have long since ceased to exist. Now they are full of obesity statistics, drug addicts, minimum wage jobs, and the stale smell of failure for anyone who hasn't left yet.

@Htownanddown, no my experiences are 4 years old. My sister was a doctor at in the Texas Medical Center area so I would visit frequently. Most of the time I hung out around downtown (near Toyota Center) but also visited Richmond Strip. The distances really turned me off, of course having access to the tram helped a bit. Perhaps its gotten a bit better in recent years, but again mind you I am comparing a city of +2million to others in USA (Say Philly or Chicago) and to me it was underwhelming.

Post: #25

Based on my limited experience (3 months) here in Honolulu, fucking Honolulu.
No one is getting action, even some girls confess that they haven't had sex in 6 months and i believe them
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