Post: #1

I have an acquaintance that is objectively a 4-5, I'm talking well post wall, and FAT that might've been a 6 in her heyday (thin 20's). This chick pulls down guys ranging in age from early 20's - late 40's in amazing shape physically (six packs, huge guns etc) - guys that have their shit together as well from what I can tell, relatively well spoken and not bottom of the gene pool dudes - although they seem to lack any taste whatsoever.

It's absolutely amazing to see in action.

She giggles as she shows me her matches. She's laying these dudes on the regular - no she cannot extract commitment unless you mean a regular FWB. I mean WTF guys. I'm talking FUG here.

Her ability to sustain this is seemingly not ending.

Does anyone here have a female acquaintance like this? Seriously we read about this all the time but seeing it in action is quite the spectacle.

Post: #2

Just let it go man. No good will come from you trying to want that level of attention.

Think of it this way, you have to spend all of this time improving yourself from lifting weights, studying to make more money, rushing to make a new business, get more coin. Essentially you have to improve yourself to get laid.

This animal on the other hand can indulge in her carnal pleasures all she wants essentially to the day she dies.

At the end of the day, if you want to get some action you're going to need to rise above pleasures of the flesh to indulge in things that don't reap immediate benefits but will produce more bounties down the road. Would you rather trade those experiences for easy and unrestricted sex?

In my youth I would have said yes. As an adult who for whatever reason was forced down the path of some hard work, I'd say no. This is why men seem to change and grow with age and women seem to essentially be the same person they were from 13 to 30.

Post: #3

A girl getting some guy to have sex with them is as much as an accomplishment as a guy getting some girl to take money from them.
There will always be someone who takes it no matter what the source.

'I can give pussy and some guy will take it' = 'I can give money and some girl will take it'

The challenge for a girl is commitment and finding a guy of high value.
The challenge for a guy is loyalty and finding a girl of beauty.

Post: #4

Would probably be useful to include your location in this thread so every guy here can avoid this pussy desert you live in.

Post: #5

The state of dating and relationships is so dismal for most beta men that they will take absolutely anything nowadays, as most of them are totally starving sexually.

The day that ALL men start refusing en masse to engage with anything less than a HB 6 who is sweet and kind and well mannered, is the day all women start making sure their appearance and behavior matches those requirements.

My grandfather's generation were men like this, and the women made sure they kept their standards high.

As long as beta men keep accepting and chasing these women, there is zero incentive for them to improve.

Post: #6

Some guys worship pussy no matter what it's attached to and will often do anything to get it.

Post: #7

She's a hole of last resort for guys looking for something that gives them absolutely zero grief.

She's swallowed more loads, had more inanimate objects shoved in every orifice and licked her own shit off someone else's dick than any human should.

Don't be floored, be thankful you don't have to go down that path.

Post: #8

(03-16-2016 08:40 AM)Designate Wrote:  Would probably be useful to include your location in this thread so every guy here can avoid this pussy desert you live in.

I give you ONE GUESS - and yes you guessed correctly: SF BAY Area.

Post: #9

I work in a blue collar shop setting. We have talked about all kinds of things. People I work with know that I am on this website. I made a commitment to lose weight, get my finances in order and take an honest look at myself. I am not lonely and I will no longer fuck/date fat women. People I work with said I have fucked up standards. I reply every time to go fuck off with that attitude.

I am not an ugly guy. I am early 30s. I do not expect to date or sleep with some beautiful virgin 22 year old. But if I decided to make a change and better myself, that is what I expect out of some one I am serious about.

But, if I am wanting just to fuck...I will not discriminate against a girl that is average....to lesser average looks....as long as she is thin.

Fat women are like a fat mans ass hole. Hell no.

I even talked about that heavier girl on the cover of sports illustrated swim suit. She has a pretty face and really big, heavy tits. But still no. I care about my health and I cant get it up for fatties anymore. Big titties or not.

Post: #10

It's just reality. We're amidst a global drought. An universal train wreck can walk into any bar globally and have sex with 99% of the men with so much as a look. Men are thirsty. Their lack of self respect is a major part of the problem.

You might be a decent looking guy with your shit together. You might have fallen from the ugly tree, but either way, take solace in the fact that, irrespective of how these men might 'appear', purely off the knowledge of this site alone, you will land a hotter girl, and have a much easier time handling her.

Post: #11

A lock that is opened by any key is worthless.
A key that opens any lock is priceless.

Post: #12

(03-16-2016 09:05 AM)ThrustMaster Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 08:40 AM)Designate Wrote:  Would probably be useful to include your location in this thread so every guy here can avoid this pussy desert you live in.

I give you ONE GUESS - and yes you guessed correctly: SF BAY Area.

My bet was on DC from the way you were describing it. Close enough.

That said, this is just another example of how fucked up the dating market is in the US. Nothing new really. Personally, I have largely checked out of the US dating market because the cost/benefit has been and continues to be completely out of alignment. I rather focus on myself, making money, and hanging out with friends then trying to game in a fucked up dating market. I still game to be clear but it's more passive/low investment/social circle game now along with keeping a few past FWBs (no maintenance FWBs) in reserve whenever I need a easy nut. I'm not out there pounding the pavement anymore but if I do, it's a once in a blue moon kind of thing.

And if I do run any game, it's almost exclusively aimed at 1st and 2nd generation immigrants and super high quality/ultra-rare women (in personality and looks). All must bring significant value to my life in some capacity to even bother wasting time with them. Banging another average 4-6 online dating whore does nothing for me now; the idea of it is almost repulsive to be honest. Like how dare I disgrace myself and my cock by fucking such a basic bitch kind of repulsive. Unfortunately, most women in America fall in the repulsive category. Throw in possible accident babies/two decades of child support/false accusations on top of everything else and I ask myself: is getting the bang worth it?

Lately for me, the answer has been overwhelming "no."

A fucked up dating market is fantastic if you want to develop some really good game skills (it helped me tremendously) but once you hit a sort of journeyman status game-wise, the bullshit simply gets old and tiresome. At this point: if I'm going to go into active game mode, I'm getting on a plane for Mexico or somewhere else in Latin America.

Post: #13

(03-16-2016 09:05 AM)ThrustMaster Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 08:40 AM)Designate Wrote:  Would probably be useful to include your location in this thread so every guy here can avoid this pussy desert you live in.

I give you ONE GUESS - and yes you guessed correctly: SF BAY Area.

I would have guessed any Anglo country, especially the UK.

Post: #14

(03-16-2016 09:05 AM)ThrustMaster Wrote:  

(03-16-2016 08:40 AM)Designate Wrote:  Would probably be useful to include your location in this thread so every guy here can avoid this pussy desert you live in.

I give you ONE GUESS - and yes you guessed correctly: SF BAY Area.

I've never gamed in SF, but I go there once every few years to check out the food and dining scene (which is excellent)

I was having dinner at Cotogna (highly recommend) just off Embarcadero, maybe I was mistaken but it seemed like a pretty ritzy area.

As I walked into the restaurant, I was momentarily captivated by a strange sight on the street. There was an impeccably dressed guy, obviously loaded, Patrick Bateman-esque, opening the door of a limo for his date, a fucking LAND WHALE. And he gets in on the other side of the limo.

Immediate thought was "this place must absolutely blow for gaming".

Post: #15

Beast and Atlantic on point.

I'll just add that the majority of men are so sexually frustrated, they are no longer embarrassed by their actions. Getting something is better than nothing, any slut will do for the night.

The only difference between now and the previous decade is your friends don't make fun of you for banging a fatass.

A lost motto of my youth: "Chubby girls are like mopeds. They might be fun for a few minutes, but don't let your friends catch you riding one."

Post: #16

Not sure I understand this thread. Are you hating on guys who will bang just about anything? Because a lot of guys have a high sex drive and will, as long as not too much effort is required. It's probably always been that way but in the past the women just weren't giving it up so easily.

Also, feminism has promoted the narrative that a girl can be a "stud" if she bangs a lot of guys...

Post: #17

She's not a woman, she's a masturbatory aid for these guys. Zero effort required will always get takers; people are lazy. It's not like they're starting a family with this woman, so quality control not required. Maybe she does anything and everything that a pretty girl won't.

Post: #18

Here is food for thought.

I would say about a good 1/3 of very inshape and well put together guys get that way because they are absolute horndogs for anything that slightly passes the boner test.

To them almost anything is vastly superior to fapping.

Post: #19

Aside from what everyone has said regarding the dating market, I would also add this:

We know that some girls may look absolutely stunning but are horrible horrible people.

Why can't it be the same for guys? It's not because the guy is young/fit/rich on the surface that means that he is of high value.

To me, those guys who fucked that fugly chicks might as well have been 10 feet tall and make 8 figures, they are worth less than the dirt beneath a toe nail to me if they stoop so low as to even look at a fat girl.

Ask yourself: would you rather be one of those guys? Would you rather be that whale?

If the answer is no, there's absolutely zero reason to waste your thoughts on this issue.

Live with dignity and close your mind off to the trash of the world, they are aplenty.

Post: #20

The thirst is real.

Post: #21

I think Giovanny put it best a while ago.

He doesn't even see ugly people. He is blind to them.

Post: #22

Actually if you really want to think about how easy it is for ugly/ fat women to get dick consider some of the prostitutes you see working the street. Many of these women, and even in pussy paradises like Thailand, Philippines etc... are fucking busted looking or fat. Yet they can command money for their pussy. So it really shouldn't be too hard to grasp that some fat and ugly girl can offer up her pussy to the best looking guy for the bare minimum in male attention and get guys to fuck her.

The internet and dating apps have taken the place of last call at the bar for horny guys just looking to bust a nut in a chick below their normal standards. Its no wonder fatties and ugly bitches feel more empowered and desirable than ever before.

Post: #23

I am paraphrasing what some one said on here...I think. An ugly, thin 19 year old is much hotter than an attractive 40 year old.

Post: #24

Most men nowadays are completely lost. My friends who happen to be high value men almost exclusively date down in terms of personality and attractiveness.

Thank your lucky stars that you are apart of this community which gives men hope and more importantly the knowledge to make changes.

I recently went day gaming with a friend who is a game novice but wants to learn. He sAid that he needed to approach ugly girls to build up confidence before trying attractive girls. I cautioned him on this faulty thinking but he persisted in this intention. Men are strongly conditioned in our society to worship female beauty from a distance and discouraged from approaching.

Post: #25

This claim girls are wired to seek commitment and this is what really gets them going inside on a primal level - I don't believe it anymore really. If they can get it, that's nice, they would easily rather get impregnated by a guy 2+ higher and left as a single mother for the tribe to take care of her as we have seen repeatedly in many many third world countries, the Black American community, and now with everyone due to dating (last call Hail Mary) apps.

If girls were so hell bent on commitment why are these landwhales having the time of their lives riding the carousel?

Commitment is completely negotiable for women - they want top quality jizz above all in anyway they can get it. If they can get it and commitment, then great, if not it isn't their primary goal.