Post: #1

And I don't mean Asian girls in the West.

I've read Roosh for a while now, but I notice that most of the advice is geared towards women in the West. Sure, there are some posts here and there in some of the threads that speak to guys like me--born and bred--who are in Southeast Asia (hence my moniker).

Yes, I've run some searches on the "Search (Via Forum)" and "Search (Via Google)" links, to little avail.

Please help.

p/s if anyone wants to know more about SEA, ask away.

Post: #2

This is going to sound useless and maybe retarded, but the best game for SEA is to just be yourself. That's with the caveat that 'yourself' is a generally well-adjusted man who isn't needy, knows how to make people laugh, has a job, doesn't dress like a transient, and isn't a fat slob. There aren't nearly as many head games to deal with (there are still some), and honestly you don't have to TRY here. Dating and fucking happens much more naturally, there's no need for whiskey courage or Tinder (although you can still use it). Be playful without being a pushover or a pussy. Be assertive and dominant without being a total asshole. That's it.

EDIT: When I say you don't have to try, I don't mean girls will just fall into your lap. I just mean dating isn't a circus that requires a medal of honor-worthy effort.

Post: #3

@Patriarch are you Asian yourself? If you're American, or white, that would work very well here.

Asian girls, by and large, suffer from a double dose of conservatism (not that there's anything wrong with being conservative). The first being they subscribe to a vague list of "Asian values" such as filial piety, and the like, and the second, that they are usually conservative by virtue of adhering to some form of religion (again, nothing wrong about that in and of itself).

The educated, liberal ones who go off to study in the West--usually Australia, New Zealand, UK or US--almost exclusively tend to date white.

Post: #4

Too broad of a question.

Are you trying to date the top-notch Asian girls? I mean our equivalent of Vic Secret? Because that's where the game differs a lot from standard game.

Are you looking for a steady LTR with intention of starting family? Remember that if you marry an SEA girl worthy of LTR, you marry her family and friends as well.

If you are just looking to play the field and date cute girls with LTR potential, then yes things are generally easier in South East Asia. Sometimes being white and not retarded is all you need.

Post: #5

Allow me to clarify, I am Southeast Asian myself. I'm talking about Game posts/threads from an SEA male perspective, which is what I find lacking here.

Post: #6

Check 262, he's east Asian and Kaotic who I believe hails from east of southeast Asia. Also there is a thread on the travel board about Asians running game in Asia.

If I was Thai, born in Bangkok, and living in Bangkok, with no height, muscle, face, or money advantage but I had cultural knowledge and the language down- the game is essentially getting past the girls social programming and hitting the part of her that loves sex.

By displaying the right behaviors, she can't help but love you. That is what American game in America is. Speaking to her on the animal layer of man to woman.

Social programming gets on the way of that. On your end and on her end.

And if you have two different programs, like she's Thai and you're Lao, or you're Malay and she's Viet, or your indigenous Indonesian and she's Chinese Indonesian - then basically there's a lot more to social interference that you have to get past. This is on top of language, class, and cultural barriers.

We talk a bit about this on both black guy threads. Not directly on point, but there are parallels.

Good luck

WIA

Post: #7

Which SEA girls are you specifically looking at? There are tons of countries in SEA and gaming a girl in Singapore is very different from a girl from the Philippines. Would be easier for us if you would let us know in detail your target groups, cities, payroll and age etc

Post: #8

(07-13-2016 10:00 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  Which SEA girls are you specifically looking at? There are tons of countries in SEA and gaming a girl in Singapore is very different from a girl from the Philippines. Would be easier for us if you would let us know in detail your target groups, cities, payroll and age etc

I split my time between Singapore and Malaysia. Partial to meeting educated ethnic Chinese or white expats (but the latter tend to hang out and date within their expat circles.)

Post: #9

Alright, thats more info to work with, way better than telling us you're interested in SEA girls. Well the two types of girls you want to meet have been actively discussed before and can be easily found on this forum. A few places you want to look at are

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Post: #10

(07-14-2016 06:37 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  Alright, thats more info to work with, way better than telling us you're interested in SEA girls. Well the two types of girls you want to meet have been actively discussed before and can be easily found on this forum. A few places you want to look at are

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I have read those; they're mostly data sheets and debates about how great Koreans are heh

Post: #11

(07-13-2016 11:14 AM)seaguy87 Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 10:00 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  Which SEA girls are you specifically looking at? There are tons of countries in SEA and gaming a girl in Singapore is very different from a girl from the Philippines. Would be easier for us if you would let us know in detail your target groups, cities, payroll and age etc

I split my time between Singapore and Malaysia. Partial to meeting educated ethnic Chinese or white expats (but the latter tend to hang out and date within their expat circles.)

Kuala Lumpar?

if so, that's a different ballgame.

Are you Malaysian-Chinese?

Saying I'm southeast Asian doesn't mean anything.

Post: #12

(07-14-2016 09:58 AM)LINUX Wrote:  Kuala Lumpar?

if so, that's a different ballgame.

Are you Malaysian-Chinese?

Saying I'm southeast Asian doesn't mean anything.

I'm actually Eurasian.

Post: #13

(07-15-2016 04:26 AM)seaguy87 Wrote:  

(07-14-2016 09:58 AM)LINUX Wrote:  Kuala Lumpar?

if so, that's a different ballgame.

Are you Malaysian-Chinese?

Saying I'm southeast Asian doesn't mean anything.

I'm actually Eurasian.

How about you do an introduction about yourself, the city you're in and stuff. Leave out the sensitive personal information as you deem fit. Because right now, you're asking for advice on a topic that's too wide without giving us enough background to be giving you any related or relevant advice. Good luck.

Post: #14

I don't know if I'm explaining it properly because my thoughts are a little fragmented, and are more cogent in my mind. Here goes, albeit briefly.

I'm late 20s, born and bred in KL. Libertarian with conservative tendencies, prefer LTRs. INTJ.

I find the girls I grew up with, as well as those I meet here suffer from being intellectually shallow (with really poor English language skills), ignorant (general knowledge? What's that?), and just plain boring to engage, and almost always pretend to be this princess. But if you dig a little deeper, you find that they're anything but modest, sexually. Many suffer from what I call a "false modesty."

SEA girls / Asian girls like to pretend that they're cloaked in modesty due to 1) "Asian values", a vague set of beliefs like you must be filial (as if westerners aren't!?), not speak up, not challenge, dress conservatively, be chaste and 2) religious values (not that there's anything wrong about that in and of itself), which enforces more "modesty." When you approach them, they always have this deer-caught-in-the-headlights, defensive, clueless stance. Wtf?

I find that, if anything, the Asian way of bringing girls up tends to allow for girls to continue being girls even when they're older (girls stuck in women's bodies) and daddy's princesses who can do no wrong.

On the other hand, you have the westernised types who are usually left wing, feminist, and/or promiscuous, have an overinflated view of their SMV because they went to UMelb, Monash, UCal, Oxbridge, or whatever, and cruised through life because daddy forked out a ton of cash to pay for their bar crawls and overseas jaunts.

Some of them are usually intimidated by me, they usually say "you're so intimidating to talk with", because I DuN TaLk LyK DiS, usually spell properly and utilise proper grammar, and like to initiate deeper topics.

Whilst I'm trying to build myself up, these more educated types really couldn't give a shite because you have both the high SMV locals and expats going after them. Asian women tend to age better, and Asian society is really BP, so I suspect that the Asian female wall is probably at 40. Ugh.

It seems like I'm stuck with either choosing an ugly mannequin or semi-feminazi.

These are some of the things on my mind atm.

Post: #15

I'm just going to drop a few thoughts about KL so just pick out those that you think are useful for yourself.

For KL, from what I understand, the chinese girls are split into two main groups. Those who went to chinese-medium schools and those to (private)english-medium schools.

The former group tend to come from the lower rugs of the wealth chain and parents who work hard but can't afford to send them to anything but the government schools in Malaysia which I heard are shit and don't provide much future prospects especially if you're not Malay. Girls in these group tend to be more 'asian' in the sense where they listen to largely chinese songs, speak only chinese and malay, hang out at malls in KL such as BTS, have a high tendency to like Kpop or Jpop and etc.

On the other hand, those who went to english schools tend to be more of to quote you "daddy's princesses who can do no wrong." They're basic bitches that listen to Justin Bieber, speak only English, hang out at 1U/Pavilion and they also tend to be richer.

From what I know, there is mutual dislike between these two groups for obvious reasons. Now, one thing about game in KL you need to know is that you take a very different approach when you're gaming the different types of girls. A girl from the English group wouldn't be caught dead in a mall like Sungei Wang or BTS so you would know better than to bring her on a date at these malls. For ONS or easiness, I find the English educated girls to be alot easier. Most of them like you mentioned, either want to or have already studied in Western countries. They tend to want to emulate what is supposedly "western" standards of love and sex. They also respond better to western style of flirting. Forget deeper topics, these are the girls you talk about travel, overpriced cafes with. You can have deep conversations with like-minded friends, not the girls you're looking to game.

If as you mentioned, you are looking for a girl you can "have deep conversations with" and someone you want to date long term, hit up on places where these girls are more likely to be found. Places like libraries, churches(LOL) are your better bet than bars and clubs.

Alternatively, go abroad.

Post: #16

(07-16-2016 03:16 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  For KL, from what I understand, the chinese girls are split into two main groups. Those who went to chinese-medium schools and those to (private)english-medium schools.
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The former group tend to come from the lower rugs of the wealth chain and parents who work hard but can't afford to send them to anything but the government schools in Malaysia which I heard are shit and don't provide much future prospects especially if you're not Malay. Girls in these group tend to be more 'asian' in the sense where they listen to largely chinese songs, speak only chinese and malay, hang out at malls in KL such as BTS, have a high tendency to like Kpop or Jpop and etc.
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For ONS or easiness, I find the English educated girls to be alot easier. Most of them like you mentioned, either want to or have already studied in Western countries. They tend to want to emulate what is supposedly "western" standards of love and sex.
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If as you mentioned, you are looking for a girl you can "have deep conversations with" and someone you want to date long term, hit up on places where these girls are more likely to be found. Places like libraries, churches(LOL) are your better bet than bars and clubs.
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Yes, I'm familiar with this dichotomy--I've lived and breathed this for well over 2 decades.

Libraries are practically non-existent here and church girls are equally as vapid as their secular sisthren. Church girls tend to believe that their piety is their only redeeming value, and pay no attention to picking up knowledge of the world and dolling up OR they are completely secular and are out banging lots of dudes already. Again, the same can be said about girls in any demographic.

Actually this dichotomy does not cut across the Malaysian Chinese. Liberal Malays, Indians, and other minorities are also to be found--this really cuts across money/finance/class rather than race, as you've mentioned. But here's the kicker: many of these richer girls in various ethnic groups still cling on to their ethnic/cultural/religious norms, such as how Malay girls often would not be caught dead eating pork, but would gladly suck the cum out of 20 guys' dicks.

Singaporeans also cut across this wealth divide, which I'm sure you're plenty aware of. The only difference is that these boring mannequins speak English more fluently.

I've only read one of your field reports on KL. How much/often have you been gaming Malaysian girls?