Post: #1

I'm dating this girl with which there is sexual tension in our texts. not explicit but very implicit

it's clear that our intentions with this relationship is to have a man-woman sexual and occasional relationship.

We haven't kissed yet though. We dated only once for now, a new date is coming up this week-end.

She's to come by my place and then we leave to the other place. However, I haven't given her my appartment # (there is an aura of danger in this relationship... she oftens tells me "your going to kill me aren't you?" but she keeps coming back so...) anyhow, I was just wondering if she ever feels the need to come inside my place before going to the venue, like to go pee or something, I'm thinking of telling here "there is a fee to enter my place" which I'd say would be a kiss.

Is that good or bad game?

I expect kissing her at the venue but not before... I wonder if this will only create a weird atmosphere... or it could just lead to fuck right there without even going to the venue...

any opinions?

Post: #2

Kiss her whenever you want. But you have some really funny ideas about dating and escalation. You have gone out with a girl once and you say you are dating her? That sounds like she isn't interested. What happened on the first date when you tried to kiss her?


I might just say "wait." then look at her and then kiss her. It's your second date, it would be odd to not kiss her when you greet her. I hate to break it to you, but if you never kissed the girl on your first date, there probably won't be a second date. I have experienced a few girls that don't kiss on the first date, that bang on the second date. (I didn't think they were interested because they didn't kiss, but then I called them up to see them again and they banged). Go figure.

My suggestion: just keep your texting to logistics

blitzkrieg can work(out of the blue, you pull the girl close to you and kiss her without a lot of escalation). But yeah, I often do some sort of escalation first.

Post: #3

In my experience, if a woman invites herself to your place, there's a good chance that you'll get laid. An even better chance if there's sexual tension in the text messages. Invite her to your place and tell her that you are going to leave soon but that you are get some drinks first. Hang out and talk for a while then give her a tour of your place that ends in your bedroom. Escalate and close. Skip going to the other venue.

I think there's a thread called "zero date bangs" or something like that in the main forum. Read that over.

Post: #4

Bad game.
WIA

Post: #5

Sorry, English is not my first language I may have the wrong definition of "dating"

I haven't tried to kiss her yet. It's not at that level yet. I just saw her once. I thought dating = Date.. you meet at a specific "date". but once you kiss, you're "going out"...

anyhow, thanks for the responses.

Post: #6

thanks.. the Zero date game thread has opened my eyes quite a lot.

Post: #7

Let's analyze and provide guidance:

(08-03-2016 07:05 AM)Belantozorius Wrote:  I'm dating this girl with which there is sexual tension in our texts. not explicit but very implicit

Sexual tension = GOOD

(08-03-2016 07:05 AM)Belantozorius Wrote:  it's clear that our intentions with this relationship is to have a man-woman sexual and occasional relationship.

Clear = To you.

(08-03-2016 07:05 AM)Belantozorius Wrote:  We haven't kissed yet though. We dated only once for now, a new date is coming up this week-end.

(08-03-2016 08:53 PM)Belantozorius Wrote:  I just saw her once. I thought dating = Date.. you meet at a specific "date". but once you kiss, you're "going out"...

Clarification received.

(08-03-2016 07:05 AM)Belantozorius Wrote:  She's to come by my place and then we leave to the other place. However, I haven't given her my appartment # (there is an aura of danger in this relationship... she oftens tells me "your going to kill me aren't you?" but she keeps coming back so...)

Bad answer = "No, I'm not going to kill you"
Good answer = "I'll think about it (looking at her ass)" or "Depends on your behavior (shit eating grin)"

(08-03-2016 07:05 AM)Belantozorius Wrote:  anyhow, I was just wondering if she ever feels the need to come inside my place before going to the venue, like to go pee or something, I'm thinking of telling here "there is a fee to enter my place" which I'd say would be a kiss.

In order for her to "feel the need" you will need to increase the sexual tension, but neutralize ASD.
A kissing fee may be too direct and fire up the ASD. Better would be to show her something on Youtube or "interesting stuff" at the apartment and try to kiss close.

(08-03-2016 07:05 AM)Belantozorius Wrote:  I expect kissing her at the venue but not before... I wonder if this will only create a weird atmosphere... or it could just lead to fuck right there without even going to the venue...
any opinions?

You may never know. Expect her to turn her head unless you were very skilled at the sexual tension and deep rapport. Try several times.
From inner game perspective - go out expecting a bang.
What's the worse that could happen? You may fuck it up (happens to all of us). Just escalate as much as you can and enjoy yourself.

Post: #8

allright...

it didn't need to be this complicated finally...

Plans changed and invited her over on the spot. We just went to a parc near my place.. picnic with wine.. kissed her...

at one point she had friend texting her, calling her. this date was actually not supposed to happen on that day... it was supposed to be the day after so we kinda had other plans later that day.

Anyhow.. I couldn't get her to come at my place... Obviously next step would've been the bang and I think she was not ready mentally... I mean.. Alcohol was very limited and she had to go to some friends and I probably don't have the tightest game.

At least I'm showing no neediness... She had to leave and I just looked like a didn't care. I even said at one point " for what I know you could leave and never txt me back" (with a smirk)

But now it's clear. Next time we meet there is no ambiguity for the bang. She knows and I know.

Thanks for the input guys.

Post: #9

importance of good logistics.

After kissing her.. I waited for her to text back. she did.. 4 days later.

We still texted, had fun convo. But she came out with the LJBF at the end of this weekend.

I had my son for the week so I couldn'T capitalize on anything.

She may have met a new man during the weekend...I don't know.

Asked her what made change her mind... and it's all the Hamstering that you would usually short-circuit with game.

If we would have been on the proper date... where she hadn't have other plans. we might've been able to go farther...

anyhow...

It's going to be a long road ahead for me to bang a girl... My situation (seperated 2 months ago) is very damaging to my game. Even if I don't look needy, this situation brings red flags anyhow.

I should find a way to present it differently.