Post: #1

Hey RVFers, I've come to call upon your wisdom. Today's particular topic:

The current situation:

Set my Tinder profile to one of those controversial-gender-in-your-face descriptions. (Un)surprisingly, it's getting good response with most girls as they bring it up somewhere in the conversation. Additional AA and self amused mastery has boosted this even further (thanks Roissy).

Eventually we get to a point where there's a stalemate with the girl, where it is a clash of frames (but online). One way I thought of overcoming this is playing the "bet" game. Basically it's something along the lines of: "I bet I beat you in ___" etc. I think it sets a good frame where you're still standing your ground but assuming a more playful and easygoing personality.

My question to you guys is:

What are some examples you have used that's been effective?

My colleague suggested: "I bet I can make you cum first", high risk high reward haha. I'm probably holding off from that one since it might trigger an immediate ASD.

Post: #2

I'd get a new colleague.

Post: #3

Describe that 'stalemate' thing. What exactly happens there.

Post: #4

ya i don't understand the "stalemate" thing and how a "bet game" solves the problem.

Anytime i use the bet game i use it to get kisses or to get a girl to buy me drinks.

Post: #5

Apologies for a bad explanation of the situation, I couldn't really find a single word that could describe it. So, an example would be something along the lines of:

Girl: Any luck on finding girls to take you out to dinner?
P: Yeah, you're offer #4, better make it good.
Girl: *waffle-waffle* (basically along the lines of reframing it so I fall into her frame)
P: How about a bet then? Loser can shout

And that's where the "stalemate" occurs. I get stuck on setting what that bet/comp is. I think it's a good entry into keeping the atmosphere fun or even setting up a first date that's more creative and different the usual.

As with what Mufasa just said, I can see how this can be applied into getting kisses/drinks/blowjobs/more/etc.

Post: #6

(11-26-2016 09:09 AM)panknows24 Wrote:  Apologies for a bad explanation of the situation, I couldn't really find a single word that could describe it. So, an example would be something along the lines of:

Girl: Any luck on finding girls to take you out to dinner?
P: Yeah, you're offer #4, better make it good.
Girl: *waffle-waffle* (basically along the lines of reframing it so I fall into her frame)
P: How about a bet then? Loser can shout

And that's where the "stalemate" occurs. I get stuck on setting what that bet/comp is. I think it's a good entry into keeping the atmosphere fun or even setting up a first date that's more creative and different the usual.

As with what Mufasa just said, I can see how this can be applied into getting kisses/drinks/blowjobs/more/etc.

I think saying "how about a bet" is falling into her frame? Some one check me on that..

But i would say were going to play mini golf, or laser tag, or swimming, or a cook off, etc. All of those you can compete in, they all move you closer to a lay, and they're all dates when you think about it. If she's on a date she's already at the very least considering you romantically if you have presented yourself as a sexual being.

Each date/competition has its own advantages:

• Swimming--shes almost naked and you can escalate physically with her practically naked body
• Laser tag & minigolf--fun ideas that allow you to show off your aggressiveness for success. Im competitive and love to straight up ether a girl and let her know it. Pure dominance
• cook off--youre at her place or shes already at your place. After you eat it becomes a netflix and chill. I would make it where you cook:
  Me: Ill make you my famous quesadillas and once you get the mouthgasm; I win--we do x, y, z. They always enjoy it and then you go to netflix and chill time.
  

hope that helps