British Politics Thread

To the Stoke-on-Trent Central by-election that was held today.

This is one of two by-elections taking place, but the Copeland vote (another Labour stronghold) isn't getting nearly the same attention. Although Stoke-on-Trent has voted Labour since the 30s, it also voted for Brexit last June where Labour campaigned against.

New UKIP leader Paul Nuttall is standing for election in the constituency personally. Despite the Potteries' Labour leanings, he should have more than a strong chance, considering the piece of work Labour has despatched to shore up this hole.

But.

We'll get to this later.

Meanwhile, Labour's candidate, Gareth Snell. Believe it or not, he has a few similarities with the God-Emperor Severus Trump, notably his Twatter notoriety.

A selection, handily condensed by someone unimpressed with Mr Snell's twattery:

Remember what I said about Stoke-on-Trent voting for Brexit, and now consider that the Labour Party have sent someone who tweets the above to run. How the hell could an opposition MP (let alone the leader of the party), running against this clown, fuck up?

By having on his website false claims that he lost close friends in the Hillsborough disaster.

The incident was blamed on a low-level admin who was maintaining his website. How this could happen is perhaps an indictment of UKIP the party - its seemingly masochistic tendency to shoot itself in the foot with a 12-gauge when it comes anywhere near close to gaining some sort of influence.

Meanwhile, we're not done with Mr Snell yet. Remember what I said about him and Twitter?

Labour Stoke candidate on women.

Now, is this something Trump would be called out on?

If anyone outside the UK is reading this, you might have expected some sort of outrage, that Snell would have been absolutely annihilated by the leftists.

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Which party is he from again?

Anyway, tomorrow we'll see if identity politics ("Yeah, Labour are jokes now, but I've voted Labour all my life") will win through or whether Labour begins the decline into annihilation it deserves in the Midlands tomorrow.

The contest is between two MPs who seem determined to make things hard for themselves. Forget the others (except The Incredible Flying Brick, standing for the Monster Raving Loony Party, in the finest British tradition).

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(02-23-2017 07:26 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  To the Stoke-on-Trent Central by-election that was held today.

This is one of two by-elections taking place, but the Copeland vote (another Labour stronghold) isn't getting nearly the same attention. Although Stoke-on-Trent has voted Labour since the 30s, it also voted for Brexit last June where Labour campaigned against.

New UKIP leader Paul Nuttall is standing for election in the constituency personally. Despite the Potteries' Labour leanings, he should have more than a strong chance, considering the piece of work Labour has despatched to shore up this hole.

But.

We'll get to this later.

Meanwhile, Labour's candidate, Gareth Snell. Believe it or not, he has a few similarities with the God-Emperor Severus Trump, notably his Twatter notoriety.

A selection, handily condensed by someone unimpressed with Mr Snell's twattery:

Remember what I said about Stoke-on-Trent voting for Brexit, and now consider that the Labour Party have sent someone who tweets the above to run. How the hell could an opposition MP (let alone the leader of the party), running against this clown, fuck up?

By having on his website false claims that he lost close friends in the Hillsborough disaster.

The incident was blamed on a low-level admin who was maintaining his website. How this could happen is perhaps an indictment of UKIP the party - its seemingly masochistic tendency to shoot itself in the foot with a 12-gauge when it comes anywhere near close to gaining some sort of influence.

Meanwhile, we're not done with Mr Snell yet. Remember what I said about him and Twitter?

Labour Stoke candidate on women.

Now, is this something Trump would be called out on?

If anyone outside the UK is reading this, you might have expected some sort of outrage, that Snell would have been absolutely annihilated by the leftists.

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Which party is he from again?

Anyway, tomorrow we'll see if identity politics ("Yeah, Labour are jokes now, but I've voted Labour all my life") will win through or whether Labour begins the decline into annihilation it deserves in the Midlands tomorrow.

The contest is between two MPs who seem determined to make things hard for themselves. Forget the others (except The Incredible Flying Brick, standing for the Monster Raving Loony Party, in the finest British tradition).

Good analysis. As we all saw, UKIP couldn't win this seat. I have been personally in this party's few conferences. The supporters are blue collar working class, mainly white male, ex-military and so on. You get the picture.

But the leadership elite is so out of touch. They are just Euroskeptic Tory cucks. UKIP with its current leadership cannot win minds and hearts of the masses. Farage himself has said on many occasions that UKIP should become a "radical party" and a voice for "patriotic working class people". With its current leadership, it's not happening. As simple as that.[/quote]

UKIP is dead if it can't win in Stoke by election where 70% voted for Brexit.

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(03-02-2017 06:12 PM)amity Wrote:  Sargon has just released a video where he takes Owen Jones and Labour politicians in general to task.
I have to say, he is one of the best (& funniest!) guys out there for rationally analysing and pointing out the contradictions that make up so much of the policies of the modern day Left, not just in the UK, but across Europe, the US and Anglosphere generally where their politicians are more interested in virtue signalling how "enlightened" their values are, then actually giving a fig about the people they're supposed to be representing, particularly the working class, who have been getting decimated by mass immigration for decades now and have had just about enough of the vacuous meaningless pontificating, moral grandstanding and posturing that makes up much of leftist parties these days.

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Have we not seen that face somewhere before?

Do you remember this guy? He came to the UK only a few months ago as a "child refugee". Now just check his amazing contribution to the country:

Stunned shoppers watch as armed police in balaclavas swoop on car of suspects in seaside town centre

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Spring Budget 2017 summary: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39203784

Corbyn/Labour got trolled by Hammond, which is always good to see.

Interesting points:
New T-Levels (equivalent to A levels) to be introduced to encourage technical qualifications to be taken (already on the increase, this will speed it up even more).
Growth forecast upgraded from 1.4% to 2.0%.
No increase in fuel duty.

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(03-05-2017 10:02 AM)IronShark Wrote:  Have we not seen that face somewhere before?

Do you remember this guy? He came to the UK only a few months ago as a "child refugee". Now just check his amazing contribution to the country:

Stunned shoppers watch as armed police in balaclavas swoop on car of suspects in seaside town centre

Why do the British police need stun grenades, balaclavas and several officers to arrest child refugees?

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(03-02-2017 03:48 PM)IronShark Wrote:  Good analysis. As we all saw, UKIP couldn't win this seat. I have been personally in this party's few conferences. The supporters are blue collar working class, mainly white male, ex-military and so on. You get the picture.

But the leadership elite is so out of touch. They are just Euroskeptic Tory cucks. UKIP with its current leadership cannot win minds and hearts of the masses. Farage himself has said on many occasions that UKIP should become a "radical party" and a voice for "patriotic working class people". With its current leadership, it's not happening. As simple as that.

UKIP is dead if it can't win in Stoke by election where 70% voted for Brexit.

It's not unrealistic to describe the UK now as a one party state. Labour is utterly fucked under Corbyn and various factions are splitting the party into the hard left that now holds sway and the centrist moderates - the only side that have any hope of ever again serving in a Labour government. The party's best chance came after the Brexit vote, when David Cameron resigned. There were rumours that George Osborne's office hadn't even drawn up plans for the possibility of the Leave side winning. A leadership contest, where candidates were judged as much on their Leave or Remain leanings as much as their actual philosophies. All that and Corbyn couldn't even make a dent in the Conservative lead.

The Liberal Democrats have rightly been consigned to the fringes once again after their one tenure in power proved what a fucking irrelevance modern liberalism is. UKIP should be in the prime position to aim for the position of official Opposition, but with Theresa May's Conservatives making earnest moves towards Brexit, voters are now wondering what else the purple party have to offer. UKIP need to rename and rebrand themselves for a life after Brexit, but most of all they need proper organisation. They've had since the 90s to get their shit together. Your analysis of the party is pretty much spot on.

I said in my last post that the constituency Copeland was a Labour stronghold and that it barely got any attention, but that all changed after the by-election. It was snapped up by the Tories, and Corbyn's brand sunk even lower on its course towards the Earth's core.

While I should be happy at conservatives ruling unchallenged, it doesn't help that the Conservative Party doesn't actually seem to be...a conservative party, and besides, I think there should be opposition. Other conservative parties, and classical liberals, not leftists. Never again must leftists be let loose on the British economy.

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(03-08-2017 03:41 PM)britchard Wrote:  Spring Budget 2017 summary: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39203784

Corbyn/Labour got trolled by Hammond, which is always good to see.

Interesting points:
New T-Levels (equivalent to A levels) to be introduced to encourage technical qualifications to be taken (already on the increase, this will speed it up even more).
Growth forecast upgraded from 1.4% to 2.0%.
No increase in fuel duty.

The rise in National Insurance Class 4s seem to be hitting the headlines the most, but no one seems to be taking notice of the fact that Class 2s are being abolished.

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Yes it's effectively a £400 rise in national insurance for self-employed people, but it's mainly covering for the fact that the class 2s are being removed.

Some people will never be happy. I fully expect to see the Guardian attacking the Tories this morning, yet they are always crying out for more funding towards social care/NHS etc..

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(03-09-2017 02:10 AM)britchard Wrote:  Yes it's effectively a £400 rise in national insurance for self-employed people, but it's mainly covering for the fact that the class 2s are being removed.

Some people will never be happy. I fully expect to see the Guardian attacking the Tories this morning, yet they are always crying out for more funding towards social care/NHS etc..

Yep, Hammond's already been getting it from both sides. The Right (reasonably) want to know why we can't cut foreign aid spending instead.

I'll need to research the numbers on the NI announcement because the removal of Class 2s (which is what I had to pay when I was self-employed) must have a positive effect that the papers aren't reporting, as you said..

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(03-09-2017 02:10 AM)britchard Wrote:  Yes it's effectively a £400 rise in national insurance for self-employed people, but it's mainly covering for the fact that the class 2s are being removed.

Some people will never be happy. I fully expect to see the Guardian attacking the Tories this morning, yet they are always crying out for more funding towards social care/NHS etc..

Do you expect anything more from a newspaper who plastered a man in his 30s (at least) on the front page and classed him as a 16 year old?


UKIP was a victim of poor voting practice and 2nd place is first place for losers. They did well, but nobody gets MPs from 2nd place.

This was bad because nobody is keeping the Tories and House of Lords honest and Labour still has a significant presence.

If you looked at Parliament it is stuffed with socialists, marxists and anti-capitalists outside of the Tories and even they have their quislings.

We should be thankful the majority of our politicians and their lackeys are incompetent because if they had even a semblance of organisation and dedication they would see a huge advantage to combining forces as one power to appeal to particular demographs and groups who identify along religious, ethnic and socio-economic means.

You have rising Islamic power and third world immigration. How best do you take advantage of it?

All it needs is a Tony Blair and Lord Mandelson to spin the strings of fate and before you know it the New Labour is once again here to beat the old, dreary Tories who got fat on power.

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Richard Dawkins argues it requires at least a 2/3 majority vote for the UK leaving EU.

Seems still too butthurt.




"If ever a decision needed at least a two-thirds majority, it was #Brexit."– Richard Dawkins

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Rumour has it, Article 50 - and millions of Remainers - will be triggered on Tuesday.

A big press conference has been called for Tuesday, and Cabinet Ministers have been effectively forbidden from leaving Parliament, for fear of more rebel Tories crawling out of the woodwork.

It's happening, people.

Kek, wills and, indeed, it.

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What we can expect this week:





Adam's channel is good to check out for general info on British politics, especially when it comes to the histories of the various factions and parties we have at the moment. He's also posted videos explaining the upcoming French and Dutch elections.

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-13...-fall-2018

Quote:As discussed earlier, moments ago Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon announced she would seek steps to set out a new independence referendum. Sturgeon, speaking from Bute House, the first minister’s official residence in Edinburgh, Ms Sturgeon said “it is important that Scotland is able to choose our own future at a time when the options are clearer than they are now, but before it is too late to decide our own path."

STURGEON: WILL TAKE STEPS TO LET SCOTS DECIDE ON INDEPENDENCE
STURGEON: WILL SEEK SCOT PARLIAMENT NEXT WEEK FOR SECTION 30
SCOTLAND TO TAKE STEPS TO NEW INDEPENDENCE REFERENDUM NEXT WEEK
STURGEON: EARLIEST POINT FOR VOTE IS NEXT AUTUMN - BBG
STURGEON SEES SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE VOTE FALL '18 TO SPRING '19

Of the headline above, perhaps the most important is that Sturgeon sees the next Scottish independence vote to take place between fall 2018 and spring 2019, thus providing a substantial time buffer from when the UK is expected to submit Article 50, which could come as soon as this week.

Sturgeon said “What Scotland deserves is the chance to decide our future in a fair, free and democratic way” and added that "I will now take the steps necessary to make sure that Scotland will have a choice at the end of this process."

She also said the Scottish National Party’s mandate for a second referendum “is beyond doubt” after the result of last June’s Brexit vote, in which 62 per cent of Scottish voters backed remain.

Sturgeon added that “this is all about choice” and “having the ability to make that choice.” Responding to a question, she said she wants to avoid a hard Brexit being imposed on people of Scotland.

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Scotland in a nutshell;

- Wants independence
- Wants to stay in Europe where Brussels makes the rules and they give a lot of money to be there
- Doesn't want the Euro but wants to keep the pound(????????????). Essentially it wants another country to fund its socialism and special snowflake syndrome
- Demands a say in politics - it has
- Demands it makes its own rules and to govern itself -It has

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The only reason these idiots are having a wobbly is because Daddy England isn't allowed to lay the smackdown because mummy is protecting its spoilt arse from the consequences. Afterall, its wrong to show brats the error of their ways in this day and age.

But ofcourse lets have England, and yes it is England, not Wales or ireland stump up the cash to once again hook another fat fucking leech onto its tit and wonder why they have to increase taxes, cut spending and everything else people need.

Socialism funded by OPM (Other peoples money) is great until the money runs out and then you're fucked.

Oh wait, we already are fucked but we just don't know it. Baby boomers are already seeing their old age care disappearing faster than a would-be Terrorist in Germany.

Either this whole show blows up and we have some excitement and destruction or my generation and others have an old age where suicide is the only preferable option. Because sure as shit there isn't going to be anything left in 3-4 decades time.

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It's kind of funny, I was just wondering the other day if Britain was ever going to enact article 50 and finally get the fuck out of EUtopia. I was starting to legitimately fear that they might delay it so long that it'd be left to drift off into the wind. Glad to see I was wrong. I am curious if any of the forum's British men knowledgeable of this know whether simply by separating from the EU this will inherently secure Britain's borders, aside from schengen. I mean, will the new independent Britain have tighter immigration control and border security? Or will they start fresh with a massive refugee import program or just simply continue to allow the invaders to flow through the channel tunnel? The whole process seems to have been somewhat sabotaged from day 1 when they put Theresa May in and started going soft on Islam, etc. And I haven't heard much about border security and immigration from them since the referendum either.

As for Scotland, if they didn't share a land border with Britain I'd say just cut em' loose and let them wither and die. If there is any pussy ass socialist state out there that would crumble instantly it seems Scotland would be the one. Unfortunately the strategic position they hold would be too much of a security risk I think. Seems it would be too easy for Scotland to mass import migrant invaders and let them seep over the border and to the rest of the British Isles. Much safer if the entirety of it all is kept clean. Oh well, doesn't sound like they legally can get another referendum anyway. That sturgeon thing is unsettling to look at though, eugh...

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Well, if that happens (Scottish separation) then it's time to rebuild Hadrian's Wall and Make Britain Great Again.

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I am doubtful Scotland will even get the referendum, let alone leave. The majority of Scottish voters didn't even want a second referendum, but Sturgeon and her band of fanatics have pressed ahead and made the demands.

It's important that our Union never breaks. 4 unique countries, each with its own distinctive cultures, formed bonds stronger than even those between the US states.

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The globalists want to break strong European nation-states like the UK and Spain through regional separatist movements (Scotland, Catalonia) so that the EU dominates.

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Interesting read by David G. Brown

British Government Bans Female Rape Accusers From Being Cross-Examined In Court

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Thanks God. Douglas Carswell finally leaves UKIP

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(03-24-2017 12:34 PM)IronShark Wrote:  Interesting read by David G. Brown

British Government Bans Female Rape Accusers From Being Cross-Examined In Court

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