British Politics Thread

(03-24-2017 12:34 PM)IronShark Wrote:  Interesting read by David G. Brown

British Government Bans Female Rape Accusers From Being Cross-Examined In Court

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Tommy Robinson schooling naive remoaners about the EU.

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1929

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Carswell should be booted from his seat. People voted UKIP, not you, you fucking moron!

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I'm sorry to say this and otherwise greatly respect the man, but Nigel Farage is the idiot for resigning in the first place. He handed over Britain and UKIP to vultures Like Carswell and May - and what for? Certainly not out of a desire to get out of politics, because since then he's been even more active in political life than usual. I keep trying to find some justification for it, but always come to the same conclusion: that it was a massive blunder.

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It was a blunder but he achieved a massive goal against globalists and the EU. Nigel is 52 years old so he has to choose his battles.

I believe he is waiting for France to vote and see where the wind blows. He should stick around British politics because the leftists(globalists) are going to congeal together to form some sort of horrific socialist bloc in Parliament.

This will include Islamic-leaning politicians.

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The working class has spoken:



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(03-27-2017 03:41 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I'm sorry to say this and otherwise greatly respect the man, but Nigel Farage is the idiot for resigning in the first place. He handed over Britain and UKIP to vultures Like Carswell and May - and what for? Certainly not out of a desire to get out of politics, because since then he's been even more active in political life than usual. I keep trying to find some justification for it, but always come to the same conclusion: that it was a massive blunder.

UKIP is a shit show. Farage aside, the party - while having achieved the success of becoming a major brand in UK politics - is a crew of amateurs who couldn't win the most Leave-voting city in the country when up against a Remain Labour MP who should by rights have been laughed out of the constituency. Stephen Woolfe, the most promising replacement for Farage by far, didn't submit his application for the leadership contest in time.

Farage is a big enough brand and strong enough politician to be a success in whatever faction he joins. He seems to have decided to leave the front lines, at least for the time being. Considering he joined the political arena to get Britain out of the EU and not to gain power in Parliament, his work at least seems to be complete and he can now enjoy the rewards of the talk show and political analysis circuit, which he would be more entitled to than most. At the moment, he could probably make an immediate return to the front lines if he felt the need, in any party and make it a success (probably not the BNP).

UKIP? If the complaint is that Farage ran the party with an iron fist, it's becoming clear that he fucking needed to. The party were a joke in some quarters, with some candidates unhelpfully blaming the 2015 floods on God being annoyed with homosexuality. There was plenty of spirit there, but they've had more than enough time to get their shit together.

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(03-28-2017 12:11 AM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 03:41 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I'm sorry to say this and otherwise greatly respect the man, but Nigel Farage is the idiot for resigning in the first place. He handed over Britain and UKIP to vultures Like Carswell and May - and what for? Certainly not out of a desire to get out of politics, because since then he's been even more active in political life than usual. I keep trying to find some justification for it, but always come to the same conclusion: that it was a massive blunder.

UKIP is a shit show. Farage aside, the party - while having achieved the success of becoming a major brand in UK politics - is a crew of amateurs who couldn't win the most Leave-voting city in the country when up against a Remain Labour MP who should by rights have been laughed out of the constituency. Stephen Woolfe, the most promising replacement for Farage by far, didn't submit his application for the leadership contest in time.

Farage is a big enough brand and strong enough politician to be a success in whatever faction he joins. He seems to have decided to leave the front lines, at least for the time being. Considering he joined the political arena to get Britain out of the EU and not to gain power in Parliament, his work at least seems to be complete and he can now enjoy the rewards of the talk show and political analysis circuit, which he would be more entitled to than most. At the moment, he could probably make an immediate return to the front lines if he felt the need, in any party and make it a success (probably not the BNP).

UKIP? If the complaint is that Farage ran the party with an iron fist, it's becoming clear that he fucking needed to. The party were a joke in some quarters, with some candidates unhelpfully blaming the 2015 floods on God being annoyed with homosexuality. There was plenty of spirit there, but they've had more than enough time to get their shit together.

As someone who attended few UKIP conferences, I 100% agree. Apart from Farage the whole UKIP leadership is a joke. Just look at what they did to people like Steven Woolfe. They made him leave the party.

The relationship between Farage and UKIP could be compared to Trump and the mainstream Republican party. Cucks like Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz and etc.

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Again? This 2 women?

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There has been much muttering in the UK political blogosphere about a new centrist party forming soon, one that will suck up disaffected Tories, UKIP members who don't want to be attached to their joke of a party any longer, Labour members who...don't want to be attached to their joke of a party any longer, and Liberal Democrats who...you get the picture.

I would not bet against such a party forming or indeed coming to prominence within a relatively short amount of time. The Tories now effectively rule unchallenged as the only party apparently suitable to govern. It is no coincidence that Labour's recent run was as New Labour, Tony Blair's centrist project. Ed Miliband turned the party sharply to the left and the British public told him, correctly, to fuck off. His brother David was of the Blairite centrist tradition and had he won the Labour leadership vote instead of Ed, the party would have had a real chance.

Labour's answer to the public's rejection of the party's new left leaning direction was to shift even further to the left. Now hard left elements such as Momentum have effectively gotten control of the party and the people at large don't like it. The Shadow Chancellor is a Maoist and Corbyn, when he isn't lying about having to sit on the floor of trains in order to push for nationalisation of the railways, consistently puts up such a weak show in Prime Minister's questions that he makes Bernie Sanders look like a heavyweight. They want to make a 'People's Railway', which should be a major red flag (pun intended) as to their communist aspirations. Very rarely is anything with the 'People's' tag for the people's benefit.

The Liberal Democrats have long been regarded as Britain's third party and only got the attention they did in the 2010 election due to Nick Clegg's excellent performance in the first TV debate. In 2015, they were telling everyone who would listen that they would work with whoever to form a new Government, realising that the chances of forming a majority on their own were as remote as that of Meghan Trainor ceasing to be fucking annoying. In the end, no one asked them and they were relegated back to being the nonentities they had always been.

Since 2010, the Tories have weathered the sort of internal rifts that would have broken other parties simply because their opposition was so fucking inept. A competent Labour leader would have brought his party back to contender status after Brexit, when the Tories were in flux, being split between Leavers and Remainers and neither expecting the result.

As a conservative, I should be happy that the Tories have basically a free rein to run the country, but in my opinion they aren't very good at being conservatives - figures I saw today effectively shattered the myth that they're fiscally responsible (making Labour's record look good, for fuck's sake), pushing irrelevant shit like gay marriage and pushing Labour's living wage policy as if it was their own. At a time when automation is coming in to seemingly every retail arena, making workers more expensive to hire is not a fucking good idea.

There are a lot of people voting Tory nowadays simply because there is no effective opposition. A new centrist party, made up of seasoned politicians, stands a seriously good chance. Not only would they stand up to the Tories, but they would put the nail in Labour's coffin, and put UKIP into the abyss even faster than that party's personnel could do themselves. I'm sure the Tories would survive, as they're centrist themselves.

Me? I look in vain for a true conservative party, or at least gathering like-minded people together to form a new one.

Interesting times ahead.

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This post is where I will put on my best anti-old media and British rediculousness hat.

WARNING: Possible racism ahead.


Last night I read on the Sky News website about a "racist attack" on an asylum seeker in Croydon, London.

We all know what Croydon is and who lives there, a mix of low income and welfare recipient hosueholds who are tenants or owner-occupiers. We also know there are large numbers of white, black and asian people living there.

Funnily enough both the BBC and Skynews ran with the "racist attack" headline and up until this afternoon, it was there.

Not any more!

http://news.sky.com/story/six-arrested-o...k-10821985

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39470487

Unfortunately I did not save a screenshot of the headline because 1: I didn't think of it and 2: I forgot who and what the MSM are.

So you're going to have to take my word for it!

I wonder why they changed the racist attack headline to savage attack? Is it something to do with the asylum seeker being Kurdish Iranian and some people from his part of the world don't like his kind?

Or were they black youths?

I am pretty sure its nothing to do with white people becaue no shaming language or identification of the perps has been forthcoming by the witnesses and the media.

Funny that. They can identify it as a racist attack but not give out descriptions of the perpetrators? They had 20+ witnesses and the police want people to call a number - probably anonymously.




@ Praetor Lupus

That right of centre party for disaffected MPs won't get any steam. It took Nigel and UKIP years to get ahead but because the Tories are shouting from the same roofs it went badly.

Look at how well it went for UKIP when all cylinders were firing and they had genuine chances to get MPs. People welched or didn't vote in UKIP enough. When they did get an MP he turned colours and thinks nothing of it. No integrity or moral ethic.

The same cannot be said for the likes of Labour who have cemented their position and will act as a magnet for the liberals, marxists, socialists and other pond life of the political sphere that is the left.

I fear we will see a very powerful socialist movement in the coming years. People on the lower end of the spectrum do not want or like Tories - nobody is keeping them honest. What the Tories are doing is hurting the less well off and scaremongering. It doesn't help the biggest growing demographs are anti-conservative and pro-socialist to get their own agenda through.

We're out of time.

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Yeah, nowhere has mentioned the race of the attackers, and that's always a red flag, and with the victim being Kurdish my first thoughts were perhaps other immigrants that don't like Kurds. However, it's actually hard to guess, with the fact that they came out of the pub leading me to think there's a chance they could be white (although I'm sure if they were white it would have been all over the headlines). Still the damage has been done and all the usual suspects are using it to push their shit.

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(04-03-2017 12:45 AM)Kieran Wrote:  Yeah, nowhere has mentioned the race of the attackers, and that's always a red flag, and with the victim being Kurdish my first thoughts were perhaps other immigrants that don't like Kurds. However, it's actually hard to guess, with the fact that they came out of the pub leading me to think there's a chance they could be white (although I'm sure if they were white it would have been all over the headlines). Still the damage has been done and all the usual suspects are using it to push their shit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39476606

They've released pictures of three of the people they want to speak to...

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Not surprising at all H1N1. When I first saw the story and it just said 'a refugee has been attacked by a gang' I did think there was a possibility it could be a group of chavvy white guys, but the moment it said 'Kurdish', we all knew who the perpetrators were.

In the pictures you posted, the girl looks African, the middle guy has pale skin (could be white, but perhaps Turkish or Albanian?) and the guy on the right looks like he could of Somalian ethnicity.

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(04-03-2017 12:45 AM)Kieran Wrote:  Yeah, nowhere has mentioned the race of the attackers, and that's always a red flag, and with the victim being Kurdish my first thoughts were perhaps other immigrants that don't like Kurds. However, it's actually hard to guess, with the fact that they came out of the pub leading me to think there's a chance they could be white (although I'm sure if they were white it would have been all over the headlines). Still the damage has been done and all the usual suspects are using it to push their shit.

Its Croydon. It has lower class working whites and a lot of black and asian people. Blacks go to pubs too!

They changed the headlines because the police said they weren't white and had CCTV to prove it. Once again the media shows its bias and narrative.

Nobody caught this by the way. The guy has bleeding on the brain and I guarantee it was a typical WORLDSTAR moment with added kicks.

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Some news websites still comparing it to Steven Lawrence and not showing the photos of the black attackers that are still wanted - disgusting

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These faggots:

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Only a matter of time before the globalist bloc in UK politics comes together as one.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/...ain-seats/

Labour, Lib Dem, and Greens Plot to Oust Pro-Brexit MPs in ‘Remain’ Seat

Quote:Labour, Lib Dem, and Greens have colluded to draw up a hit list of Leave supporting MPs in Remain supporting constituencies to “go after” and attempt to depose at the next election.

The Tories are outnumbered and will get fat and lazy like they did prior to New Labour gaining power.

Once baby boomers who are brexit are shuffled off to pasture its open season on the new politics. Demographs are destiny and the globalist bloc has better odds.

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(04-08-2017 08:18 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Only a matter of time before the globalist bloc in UK politics comes together as one.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/...ain-seats/

Labour, Lib Dem, and Greens Plot to Oust Pro-Brexit MPs in ‘Remain’ Seat

Quote:Labour, Lib Dem, and Greens have colluded to draw up a hit list of Leave supporting MPs in Remain supporting constituencies to “go after” and attempt to depose at the next election.

The Tories are outnumbered and will get fat and lazy like they did prior to New Labour gaining power.

Once baby boomers who are brexit are shuffled off to pasture its open season on the new politics. Demographs are destiny and the globalist bloc has better odds.

Move to Northern Ireland? 99% native, Christian, cheap cost of living but not a corrupt shit hole like Russia?

Eastern Europe would also be attractive, but only if I wasn't working in full-time employment.

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Ireland as an Englishman on top of their Muslim demographs? Not a chance!

I want a house but at this moment in time the housing market in London is wobbling and seeing a slight downturn. Whtether the surge has stopped or overplayed its hand has yet to be seen.

A house way outside of the city limits is looking better these days.

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(04-03-2017 06:24 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(04-03-2017 12:45 AM)Kieran Wrote:  Yeah, nowhere has mentioned the race of the attackers, and that's always a red flag, and with the victim being Kurdish my first thoughts were perhaps other immigrants that don't like Kurds. However, it's actually hard to guess, with the fact that they came out of the pub leading me to think there's a chance they could be white (although I'm sure if they were white it would have been all over the headlines). Still the damage has been done and all the usual suspects are using it to push their shit.

Its Croydon. It has lower class working whites and a lot of black and asian people. Blacks go to pubs too!

They changed the headlines because the police said they weren't white and had CCTV to prove it. Once again the media shows its bias and narrative.

Nobody caught this by the way. The guy has bleeding on the brain and I guarantee it was a typical WORLDSTAR moment with added kicks.

I know the evening standard showed a photo of a white chavvy looking guy leaving the court. Although judging by the CCTV footage it appears to be a mixed group, mostly made up of black guys. This is Croydon, so even the 'white working class' areas are probably black and asian majority areas now.

The evening standard and other outlets have been trying to promote this narrative, that for some reason right wingers have initiated an orgy of violence since hearing the Brexit result. I really don't understand the logic behind this narrative.

On a side note, they mention a lot how there has been a 'hate crime' increase. Although this literally means nothing. Anything can be labelled a hate crime in the U.K, until it is disproved later on. For example, a gay man has been attacked on the street, randomly. There is no evidence that the suspect knew the victim was gay. However it is a possibility, hence it will be labeled a hate crime. This also works in the same way, that if a friend or the victim himself said that it was a hate crime; then it would by law they have to be labelled as that.

If there was an increase in 'religiously and racially aggravated crimes' then that would actually mean something. Those can only be classified if there is actual evidence of there being a racist motive.

I was speaking to some labour members, and I realised how they are just delusional. Most people despise them now anyway. There only hope will be to placate the muslim voters, which will be interesting as some members may attempt to push reformation in Islam, which will backfire massively. I am only saying this because there are some islamic figures in UAF and SWP who are trying to give the liberals a carrot so to speak.

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The news were quick to identify the white perps but made sure to cover the black guys and women.

Channel 4 News showed coverage of them leaving court and they blurred the faces and bodies of the black guys. The white perps were not given such treatment.

Yes its bias, yes there is a narrative and yes we will keep seeing it happen. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking dangerous to divide people over these issues.

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That 17 year old is mid 20s at the very least. We're going to have good weather in Europe and the Med this summer.

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