Post: #1

The setup: She is a nutritionist trying to get a job here, can't catch a green card or working papers in US. Going back to her parents to regroup. Smoking hot 38yo brasiliera I met while getting a soda in the train station. Closed digits.

I told heR I'm hitting the MoMA museum next week (which I am) and afterwards she can check out a party in nyc -she hasn't seen much in her 8 months here trying to land a job. I'll run a few venue switches as usual. She wants to go and made sure we exchanged numbers correctly.

The problem. . . Her English is for shiite. My portuguese is a bunch of words. Escalating and having a bed nearby for tight logistics is th plan.

The question. Besides escalating, what do you guys do when your outdoors at lunch or a museum? I'm starting to think I'm gonna get bored trying to hand signal all the time.

Post: #2

At lunch, hold her hand and give a gentle squeeze and look her in the eye. There's no way on earth she'll not get an idea what to expect next.
At a museum ? Damn that's a tough one for me.

Post: #3

(01-28-2017 07:43 AM)Sewage2016 Wrote:  The setup: She is a nutritionist trying to get a job here, can't catch a green card or working papers in US. Going back to her parents to regroup. Smoking hot 38yo brasiliera I met while getting a soda in the train station. Closed digits.

I told heR I'm hitting the MoMA museum next week (which I am) and afterwards she can check out a party in nyc -she hasn't seen much in her 8 months here trying to land a job. I'll run a few venue switches as usual. She wants to go and made sure we exchanged numbers correctly.

The problem. . . Her English is for shiite. My portuguese is a bunch of words. Escalating and having a bed nearby for tight logistics is th plan.

The question. Besides escalating, what do you guys do when your outdoors at lunch or a museum? I'm starting to think I'm gonna get bored trying to hand signal all the time.

Nothing else in your story matters. The fact that you know this from a stranger means that she will do anything / tell you anything to get a greencard.

Here is a RULE. Any girl that mentions her visa status in any form whatsoever is a greencard hunter.

Meanwhile, your logistics game may be tight but hers is tighter. Go ahead and download your I-130 now because you are in over your head if you mention her visa but casually pass over it to talk about language and "escalating."

Post: #4

As Iron Maiden once said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86URGgqONvA

Post: #5

Understood



Not sure if it's helpful, but here's how you can deal with them, not much was stated for the smoking part.

http://monster.wikia.com/wiki/Mummy

Post: #6

You lost me at smoking hot 38 year old

Post: #7

lol @ Cr33pin

It's the depressing truth, ain't it? I can't think of the last time I saw a "smoking hot 38 yr old" woman either. I've seen a few bangable ones, but nothing I'd pursue in anger...

Post: #8

Unfortunately I don't have a pic but she has nice implants and butt plants as well. In the end it is another flake. I gotta get your guys advice, since I've had 3 flakes in a row after they seemed to have comfort, exchanged numbers, good for a day or so and then ghosted.

My approach is that I'm older in my forties. 5ft11in, professional. Traveled a lot, dine and dress well, and have significant abundance. I'm looking for someone who is interesting enough to run with me. I hit a lot of society events, international travel, know a few words in each language where I game, but I still get flakes. My target is usually 25-29yo, although this one caught me by surprise. She really takes care of herself for 38yo.

Anyway, what am I doing wrong?

Post: #9

(01-29-2017 10:44 PM)Sewage2016 Wrote:  Unfortunately I don't have a pic but she has nice implants and butt plants as well. In the end it is another flake. I gotta get your guys advice, since I've had 3 flakes in a row after they seemed to have comfort, exchanged numbers, good for a day or so and then ghosted.

My approach is that I'm older in my forties. 5ft11in, professional. Traveled a lot, dine and dress well, and have significant abundance. I'm looking for someone who is interesting enough to run with me. I hit a lot of society events, international travel, know a few words in each language where I game, but I still get flakes. My target is usually 25-29yo, although this one caught me by surprise. She really takes care of herself for 38yo.

Anyway, what am I doing wrong?

There is no foolproof method of avoiding flakes. Just do your best and leave the rest. You have to accept that there will be times when you do everything right and shit just won't pan out. Unless you're truly at the top of the heap in terms of looks/status etc, volume is your best and arguably only workable strategy, enhanced a bit perhaps by exercising discretion in the types of women you target.

Them's the breaks...

Post: #10

(01-29-2017 10:44 PM)Sewage2016 Wrote:  Traveled a lot, dine and dress well, and have significant abundance. I'm looking for someone who is interesting enough to run with me. I hit a lot of society events, international travel, know a few words in each language where I game, but I still get flakes. My target is usually 25-29yo, although this one caught me by surprise. She really takes care of herself for 38yo.

Anyway, what am I doing wrong?

Sounds like you're focused on the wrong things. I mean dressing well is important don't get me wrong.

But I'd rather be a shitty dresser and have good approach game, know how to flirt, tease, build intrigue with these girls during the day.....then be a great dresser and approach with weak game, or not at all.

I'm not saying you should do this, but back when I was having trouble figuring out what I was doing wrong, I recorded my approach using a $10 audio recorder, and posted it on the forum. She had just flaked on me for a first date too, after I met her during the day.

I had read "Day Bang" (for starters-start there if you haven't), and had internalized mostly everything in it. I was following it to the letter and thought, "I'd done everything Roosh said in Day Bang, what am I doing wrong?"

Turns out the tonality of my voice was a big issue, I never realized it. Turns out I didn't move the conversation in a flirty direction at all. It was, after all, just a conversation.

I cringe listening to it today, but these guys on the forum really were able to pinpoint things that seem obvious in retrospect.

Without more details, it's hard for us to help you.