Post: #1

A current experience with a girl is making me wonder what to do when you get mixed signals. If it's a case of minimum investment where I'll never see her again (e.g. Tinder or a club) I just go for the kill. However, do the same rules apply for social circle game? There's a girl in my circle who's giving me mixed signals and I'm wondering what the best course of action is. As it stands, I'm just gaming other girls and waiting to see if the signals will clear up due to fear of social repercussions.

Any of you guys have anything to add?

Post: #2

I would say go for it, but find a proper situation to do it. Like not when all the social circle is around and if you get rejected just play it cool and go with it.

Post: #3

Mixed signals? Or you're just perceiving positives when there are none.

If she's not making it easy to get the job done, then drop it like it's hot and move on. If she did want some, this will prompt her to show some initiative. If she doesnt, well there's your answer.

Post: #4

One of the things that made me effective as a salesman was to focus on customers that wanted the product. If I focused my time on customers that only showed a half hearted interest, I would have missed out on the opportunity to follow up on more leads.

It's the same thing with women. If you waste your time with girls that aren't buying what you're selling, you're just wasting time you could be spending on yourself or another bitch who digs you. Volume is key.

Post: #5

(01-28-2017 11:42 AM)Steelex Wrote:  Mixed signals? Or you're just perceiving positives when there are none.

If she's not making it easy to get the job done, then drop it like it's hot and move on. If she did want some, this will prompt her to show some initiative. If she doesnt, well there's your answer.

I have considered this, however at a recent gathering she asked if I had lost weight (I hadn't, I just wore a fitted shirt for once) and told my friend that I'm handsome. She also told my friend to "make sure" to invite me to an event (he implied that it was flirtatious and she's interested, but neither of them are English so it may be lost in translation).

On the other hand I asked if she wanted to do something and she said "maybe, maybe not" and has left me hanging in IM conversations a couple of times.

Tbh the more I think about it, the less I can be arsed. She's hot so I might just use her as social proof.

Post: #6

(01-28-2017 12:20 PM)TSC2295 Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 11:42 AM)Steelex Wrote:  Mixed signals? Or you're just perceiving positives when there are none.

If she's not making it easy to get the job done, then drop it like it's hot and move on. If she did want some, this will prompt her to show some initiative. If she doesnt, well there's your answer.

I have considered this, however at a recent gathering she asked if I had lost weight (I hadn't, I just wore a fitted shirt for once) and told my friend that I'm handsome. She also told my friend to "make sure" to invite me to an event (he implied that it was flirtatious and she's interested, but neither of them are English so it may be lost in translation).

On the other hand I asked if she wanted to do something and she said "maybe, maybe not" and has left me hanging in IM conversations a couple of times.

Tbh the more I think about it, the less I can be arsed. She's hot so I might just use her as social proof.

Hot girls do this all the time. She's just assessing her options and has thrown you into the stack, somewhere. If he you very clearly asked her to "do something" at x place and y time and she responded that way, you aren't at the top of her food chain.

Post: #7

The lesson I learned the hard way with women like this is to treat them the same way as they're treating you: like just another option in a pool of leads you're gaming, and nothing else. You're doin the right thing by not focusing too much on her and gaming other women. It's also wise to exercise some caution given that you guys have mutual friends/acquaintances. And the social proof route isn't a bad idea either.

Good luck!

Post: #8

I think you need a way to tactfully and low risk put it on her.

May be awkward but its the only way to know what the go is, that way you don't waste time or energy wondering about it.

The hit up has to be done carefully. Think of a way to do it properly. You need a yes or no.

Post: #9

Kino escalation.

Post: #10

(01-28-2017 11:42 AM)Steelex Wrote:  Mixed signals? Or you're just perceiving positives when there are none.

If she's not making it easy to get the job done, then drop it like it's hot and move on. If she did want some, this will prompt her to show some initiative. If she doesnt, well there's your answer.

+1 on this. I read a similar thread on another forum (unrelated) and another, older guy posted a list of several occasions on which women had made their interest clear to him. I wish I'd seen something like it many years ago; it'd have saved me a lot on time and effort on ambiguous non starters.

Post: #11

Similar to what you eluded to, I'd premtively friend-zone her. Ask for her opinion on a chick you're dating or pursuing. Good looking chicks do not enjoy being friend zoned and will actively compete.

Post: #12

Her actions show that she's interested in you, she just plays her dramatic role of being hard to get. That's why she's playing you like that.

Stop asking her questions. She won't answer you the way you would hope. Assume she's a go. Want to meet up wit her then tell her that. Want to take her somewhere, take her hand and go. Want to kiss her, do it. You have to do do do. When she objects [she will] it's fine, take 1 step back, try again later.

She's just a girl being a girl

Post: #13

Are there any other girls in this circle? If so, game them. Especially if they are hotter than her. Do nice things for them and get them talking about you. At the same time be somewhat aloof with the target and talk about these other girls with her. If she likes you she will jump your bones. If she dosent, fuck one of the other girls.

Post: #14

(01-30-2017 06:41 AM)lapalco Wrote:  Are there any other girls in this circle? If so, game them. Especially if they are hotter than her. Do nice things for them and get them talking about you. At the same time be somewhat aloof with the target and talk about these other girls with her. If she likes you she will jump your bones. If she dosent, fuck one of the other girls.

There are, however I think my SMV has been lowered by the fact that they thought (and maybe still think) I was into one of the other girls (who isn't that hot) when I just wanted someone to smoke weed and chill with.

But yeah talking about them is a good idea. I notice one of them just staring at me every now and then so I could just ask her about that (i.e. say "why is x always staring at me?")

Post: #15

What is the difference between friendliness and sexual interest?

Post: #16

There is no such thing as "mixed signals" from girls/women...ever...PERIOD

There is however "I"m interested IF he passes the test(s)"

and

"Not fucking interested...at all"

If it was the latter you wouldn't be asking because,,,well...it would be a non sequiter.

The FIRST thing guys need to know (if they want to put their pee pee in a hooha...regularly) is that the vast majority of chicks will NOT "slut signal" (sluts are another topic and not for the uninitiated anyway)..."nice" girls are much much more subtle

You need to understand that the average girls attraction "cycle" or "mechanism" is different than us guys....

We decide "yes IF" within literally 2-3 seconds:

If she lets me

If Im drunk enough

If my friends dont know

etc...

Her sequence after the visual is different but in the simplest form is;

If he doesn't blow it

It's been said a million times in this forum:

"Attraction is NOT a choice"

Attraction IS an "effect"

The "cause" is also known as "game"

Knowing how to "cause" that "effect" is the difference between "getting lucky" (occasionally) and "getting laid" (too many times to count)