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I think I'm pushing too hard
I'll give one example. Last night my first approach was the hottest girl at the bar and her friend - a perfect set. Most of the cucks at the bar are too intimidated to approach so I'm instantly above them. It was going well, but I felt like maybe I talked to them for too long and it was time to use the social proof I built from talking to them (when I was talking to them I noticed I was getting a fuck ton of attention from the other girls at the bar). Before the conversation could get stale, I met their names and excused myself to get another drink. I said "it was nice meeting you" though as if I wasn't gonna come back to talk to them. I went and approached other girls and came back maybe 15 or 20 minutes later, and they were gone!

Now I'm thinking I should have just pulled the numbers before leaving - I even had an excuse to do so. I just didn't have the IOIs. I thought limiting my attention to them and showing them that there are other girls I can talk to instead would increase my social proof. But I think I pushed too strong. What do you players think?
05-21-2017 01:03 PM
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RE: I think I'm pushing too hard
Game text sets up these perfect fantasy scenarios about girls sticking around all night like a house party and being able to merge sets, leverage social value and all that.

I think in the smart phone age that doesn't playout well often. Hot chicks are on their phones looking at 5 different people texting them to go to different places.

If the set is good stay in it, if it loses steam grab their instagram and take a selfie with them to say you will post (can choose not to after) before leaving the set. Hit them up on IG later. If it goes really well, but they need to leave grab a number text them later in night for an after party.

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05-21-2017 01:24 PM
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RE: I think I'm pushing too hard
That's a good idea! I don't have an IG and it would take too long to set up. I don't have enough good pictures. Once I take a few, I'll make an IG. For now I think the same idea works with snapchat right? Get on the hotties story and put her on mine?

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05-21-2017 01:32 PM
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RE: I think I'm pushing too hard
Here's the question from a pure game perspective : Did you get numbers or action from the other girls you approached?

If not, you should have aimed for that. Your focus was on the ozne girl when it should have been on the many others from a results perspective. Essentially you were outcome dependent.

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05-21-2017 02:33 PM
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RE: I think I'm pushing too hard
Night game is for pulling ass not numbers.

Start an interaction and follow it through, till you either fuck or bail. Exchange contact info either way.

Women have cock ADHD. There are men in the bar and men in her phone, people to see and places to go. It's unwise to assume she's going to stick around for you when you bailed.
05-21-2017 03:06 PM
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RE: I think I'm pushing too hard
I don't think you did anything wrong except you should have got their #'s. It probably would have amounted to nothing even if you did.

Usually I would not leave them alone like that but realistically if you do leave them alone and they leave it's understandable unless they are very interested. Leaving the hottest girls in the bar alone for 20 min and I'd say it's 50/50 you will talk to them again.
05-21-2017 05:34 PM
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RE: I think I'm pushing too hard
If I got their numbers it would have definitely amounted to something. I would have made plans with them at the same time. The conversation opened up a perfect door for that. I just wanted to make something happen that night and I was afraid of our conversation getting stale. If I can't bounce between groups, I need to figure out a better solution for not letting the convo get stale. Or for escalating quicker. Any advice for escalating at a bar if I can't dance worth a fuck and she's not necessarily showing that kind of interest?
05-21-2017 06:42 PM
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RE: I think I'm pushing too hard
Yea. I would have tried something like leaning in to smell her and commenting on it or looking at her with a 'not bad' expression. I think the pheramones (sp?) and attractive smells is a ripe area for subtle escalation. It's a tricky situation but there's nothing wrong with escalating a bit then getting her # and making a couple rounds. Like you said if you knew she's interested and you have her contact info no harm no foul in walking away for a bit. If the convo is in danger of going stale you can do the above or slightly pinch her forearm and say a 'not bad' kind of thing and get that ball rolling. I would go that route before creating interest by walking away.
05-21-2017 07:18 PM
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RE: I think I'm pushing too hard
(05-21-2017 01:03 PM)DallasDan Wrote:  ...excused myself to get another drink. I said "it was nice meeting you" though as if I wasn't gonna come back to talk to them. I went and approached other girls and came back maybe 15 or 20 minutes later, and they were gone!

You should not be surprised. As far as I can tell, you left for good in their eyes. What were they supposed to do? Stick around for a guy who said he was leaving?

The better option would have been to approach other girls in full view of these two girls. Maybe you did this, OP, but I'm reading it as you disappearing from their line of sight because you said you "came back".

You should have at least got their numbers, but I do not think this is a classic case of pushing too hard.

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05-24-2017 02:42 PM
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RE: I think I'm pushing too hard
For night game you need to know where a good late night/after party is and have drugs (preferably cocaine, definitely weed, possibly a pill or liquid based opioid-no needles, xanax, or XTC) and a place within a 15 min UBER ride away. If a girl is hot and tells you point blank she does cocaine(with celebrities no less!),you need cocaine-that night she probably left with someone who had cocaine or knew where to get it. If you see a bad bitch at a local night club, and you have coke, ask her if she "parties"- If she says yes , take her to the bathroom and give her a bump and attempt to have sex with her there. Even if she will not fuck you in the bathroom, she is going wherever that coke goes for the rest of the night-Take her home and fuck her there. Cocaine makes getting and maintaining an erection difficult so do not do it yourself, just give it to her.

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05-24-2017 03:12 PM
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