Post: #176

Post: #177

Relax with all the Islamophobia everyone! These are just their Ramadan terror celebrations, they will assimilate in 8 or 9 generations.

Post: #178

(06-04-2017 12:13 AM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote:  Thank you 'New Labour'

For throwing our doors open in 1997, tripling net migration in their first year and ultimately starting this rot

This is why the UK has a huge problem when compared to the likes of Poland and Hungary

If May wins on Thursday, we will slowly creep to death. If Corbyn wins, that's the final bullet to the head of the UK.

Close the fucking border already

Tony Blair is fucking Satan; He was the motherfucker that:

• Started "Faith schools" - which allowed state funded Islamic schools
• Started tuition fees for higher education - it was free before
• Invaded Iraq in 2003, which put the UK on the shitlist for Muslims and eventually led to the fuckup that Iraq is now. UK didn't have to fight in Iraq. They didn't fight in the Vietnam War.
• Signed up UK to the Human Rights Act, which prevented the UK deporting criminals to countries where they faced possible execution. The main beneficiaries of this were Islamic terrorists wanted in Middle Eastern countries. They were stuck in the UK, and their living costs were paid for by UK taxpayers.
• Lowered the age for being a faggot to 16.
• Removed the ban on gays in the armed forces
• Created "Civil partnerships" for gays - a precursor to gay marrage
• Supported the repeal of Section 28, which banned the promotion of homosexuality
  

He wised up a bit about Islam later:

Many millions of Muslims 'fundamentally incompatible with the modern world', says Tony Blair (2015)

Quote:Tony Blair has said that "many millions" of Muslims hold a viewpoint that is "fundamentally incompatible with the modern world."

Rejecting arguments that Isis is simply "tens of thousands of brainwashed crazies," he continued: "[Isis] does not seek dialogue but dominance. It cannot therefore be contained. It has to be defeated."

To mitigate against such attacks, the ex-PM argued for "active on-the-ground military support" for Arab armies, stating that Isis "have to be crushed."

He also called for the creation of a pan-national anti-terror force, saying: "We must build military capability able to confront and defeat the terrorists wherever they try to hold territory. This is a challenge for the West."

His comments, made during a Sunday Times interview, come six months after he admitted that the existence of Isis could be blamed on Western intervention in the Arab world during the second Iraq war.

Asked by a CNN interviewer in October 2015 whether he thought the invasion of Iraq was a "principle cause" of the rise of Isis, he said:

"I think there are elements of truth in that... Of course you can't say that those of us who removed Saddam in 2003 bear no responsibility for the situation in 2015.

"But... it's not clear to me that even if our policy did not work, subsequent policies have worked better."

He warned that "increasingly frequent acts of terrorism" could culminate in an attack "of such size and horror" that it would result in "many more victims" than the recent attack on Brussels or 2015 attacks in Paris.

And he criticised those on the left who believe that "we have caused all of this through Western policy".

In 2014, a senior Isis commander told the Guardian that the Camp Bucca detention facility operated by the US-led coalition during the Iraq war was directly responsible for the rise of the theocratic state.

“It made it all, it built our ideology,” he said. “We could never have all got together like this in Baghdad, or anywhere else.”

Tony Blair says 'flabby liberalism' is helping terrorists because elite feel too 'guilty' to take on the extremists (2016)

Quote:Tony Blair has warned that ‘flabby liberalism’ is helping terrorists because Britain’s elite feel too ‘guilty’ to tackle the spread of extremism.

The former Labour prime minister said many in politics are now ‘unwilling to take people on’, fearing that they will be seen as intolerant of other cultures.

Speaking ahead of today’s terror atrocities in Brussels, he branded such an approach ‘ridiculous’ and said it had left our country’s liberal values vulnerable to abuse.

Mr Blair urged the establishment to ‘defeat violence’ by ‘attacking extremist thinking’ in schools and wider society. And he said there needs to be a tougher centre ground approach to migration and the refugee crisis, which for many politicians is a still a toxic issue.

He told the BBC: ‘We're in a situation where we have to fight back.

‘The centre has become flabby and unwilling to take people on. We concede far too much.

‘There's this idea that you're part of an elite if you think in terms of respectful tolerance towards other people. It's ridiculous.’

He added that too often moderate voices are defensive about arguing their case, fuelling a culture of extremism in religion and politics.

‘One of the problems with the West is that it constantly can be made to feel guilty about itself - and I'm not saying there aren't things we should feel guilty about,’ he said.

‘But you know, we shouldn't let people intimidate us into thinking there are certain values we shouldn't be standing up for.

‘I'm a supporter of multiculturalism. But there's been a long period of time when we've allowed the concept of multiculturalism to be abused.’

As an example, he said that if people were asserting the equality and fair treatment of women that they should not be made to feel ‘somehow we're being culturally insensitive’.

‘We have to be clear no one has the right to abrogate those basic human rights.’

On the challenge of migration and refugees, he said that in an ‘era of anxiety’, a lack of a coherent mainstream response, has opened the door to more extreme arguments.

A lack of action from moderates often prompts people to turn to the hard right, he warned.

‘You have to give a real solution and not one which is populist but false,’ he said.

‘If you don't give a solution, and you leave people with a choice between what I would call a bit of flabby liberalism and the hardline, they'll take the hardline I'm afraid.’

He called for a more assertive policy of ‘muscular centrism’.

And in apparent reference to the Trojan Horse scandal, in which hardliners tried to impose an Islamic agenda on state schools, he said tackling extremism begins in the classroom.

Mr Blair said: ‘The truth is this extremism is being incubated in school systems, formal and informal, which are teaching children a narrow minded and often hateful view of those who are different.

‘What people need to understand is that this culture of hate is taught.

‘They are taught a culture of hate and they can be untaught it.

‘This extremist thinking is what you have to attack, if you don't attack the ideology you'll never defeat the violence.’

Mr Blair also challenged the idea that promoting values of tolerance was a form of Western cultural interference.

‘The West has just got to get over this,’ he said.

‘There are many other people in the region who do not regard the notion of peaceful co-existence as a Western value, they see it as a sensible human value, a global value.’

The former prime minister also warned that both the far right and far left were promoting arguments in favour of ‘isolationism and protectionism’.

‘People are very anxious and uncertain and they are turning to the demagogic populism of left and right.’

After leaving office, Mr Blair set up a foundation which works to promote greater understanding between the world's religions and to challenge extremism and prejudice.

He is planning a global project to prevent extremism through education.

Post: #179

Quote:“They were stabbing everyone. They were running up and going ‘This is for Allah’,” he told BBC News. “They ran up and stabbed this girl – I don’t know how many times – 10 times, maybe 15 times. She was going, ‘Help me, help me’ and I couldn’t do nothing. I threw something – there was a bike on the floor. I threw something at them like a bike or a chair.”

https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/...ted-allah/

Were there no men in the vicinity? Were the chairs and tables screwed to the floor? Anything is a valuable weapon there.

You don't go bare-handed into a machete fight, but 4 guys with chairs and tables are a completely different situation.




Vans kill people - better not call it Islamic attack. I think that the media and police never used the words Islam, Islamic or Muslims ever.



That is why they need numbers and a feminized population. If those attackers went out and did the same thing in Warsaw then I don't know if the cops came in time to save those shithead's lives. Too many men would have clobbered the Muslims.

Seems like the chairs were screwed to the floor at one place - likely the same with the tables. Suckers picked the right target - stabbing a girl 10+ times while she screamed for help.

Oh those brave warriors - they are so brave and great.

Post: #180

https://twitter.com/geertwilderspvv/stat...0976329729

Post: #181

Note how they all say the following all across the entire Western media:

"van hit"
"knives attack"
"incident"
"terror related incident"
"vehicle incident"
"stabbing incident"

It is everything but Muslims, Islamists, Jihadis - Islam is of course innocent because everyone knows that Islam calls constantly for peace.

Gaad is right - it is the biggest collective self-destruction seen in human history.

Islam is the enemy.
Imperial Japan was the enemy not Japanese.
Nazi Germany was the enemy - not Germans.
Islam is the enemy - not the Muslim people, though the bond is in this case stronger than with the Japanese and German governments. You can faster remove a government, than you can remove a religious ideology.

My resolve however stands firm - Islam has to go. Some Muslims are just plugged into the Muslim faith more. The true Muslim believers were the ones who did the attacks. The lukewarm Muslims are the ones who claim that it has nothing to do with Islam.

Stabbing and vehicle incidents - not Jihadi attacks. Those fucking traitors!

Post: #182

(06-03-2017 09:34 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Why do we always hear about terrorist attacks in England and France, but they never report the terrorist attacks in the xenophobic Hungary or Poland? Very unfair!

This is why:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_BjPy19bYs

Post: #183

You should look at the feeds of Muslim reformers and Ex-Muslims like that:

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace

https://twitter.com/GadSaad

Especially the reformers are facing an uphill battle.

You have to first acknowledge that Islam is a Religion of Terror and War, then can you change it or soften it, otherwise this will go on and on.

Molyneux talks about 20.000+ radical Jihadis being in the UK. The list of silent sympathizers is very likely in the hundreds of thousands or even million+

I don't think that the Imam will succeed. He will likely be killed one day for his trouble, since he runs around without police protection so far.

Post: #184

(06-03-2017 09:34 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Why do we always hear about terrorist attacks in England and France, but they never report the terrorist attacks in the xenophobic Hungary or Poland? Very unfair!

Daesh are obviously targeting countries that actively wage war against them on their "home" soil.

They are saying as much on their own social media channels. Of course the option to stop waging war on ISIS in an attempt at appeasement is out of the question.

Post: #185

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live...CMP=twt_gu

Reports about police officers running away.

Quote:I saw a man in red with quite a large blade. I am guessing 10 inches. He was stabbing a man, maybe three times, fairly calmly. It looked like the man maybe had been trying to intervene but there wasn’t much he could do. He was stabbed quite coldly and slumped to the ground.

What were his intervention tactics there - flowers and a talk from hear to heart, lighting a candle together?

If you are not armed, then forget it when dealing with a machete - you would need to be a fantastic martial artists and even then you likely get hurt.

Angela Merkel said:

Quote:Today, we are united beyond all borders in horror and sorrow, but also in determination.

In the fight against every form of terrorism, we stand firmly and with determination at Britain’s side.

Also she will send in 500.000 rejected Muslim asylum seekers from Germany to the UK, because hate must not win.

Post: #186

(06-04-2017 02:54 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

(06-03-2017 09:34 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Why do we always hear about terrorist attacks in England and France, but they never report the terrorist attacks in the xenophobic Hungary or Poland? Very unfair!

Daesh are obviously targeting countries that actively wage war against them on their "home" soil.

They are saying as much on their own social media channels. Of course the option to stop waging war on ISIS in an attempt at appeasement is out of the question.

Sweden was actively waging war against them?
The entire world was waging war against them for the last 1400 years? Jewish tribes were attacking Mohammed from Mecca?
US soldiers attacking the Barbary pirates in the 18th century? The fuckers took slaves right up until the 1950s-80s - many of them White slaves.
"Not attacking them" does not mean jack shit. But they need bigger local numbers in those areas and that is why Poland is not on the list.
Those shitheads were not supplied with cash, expertise, intelligence or any kind of ability to plan ahead.

They hit their home turf first where they can enjoy an uplifting talk at a local mosque before going on a rampage. In contrast the only Polish mosque is staffed at the reception by a blonde Polish woman with a short skirt.

It is Islam, but Islam needs a sizable community to start acting out. They always are quiet in the beginning when their numbers are tiny.

Post: #187

LEt's look at the positive aspect of it:

We are getting IRL examples of why implementing certain seemingly well intentioned protocols could be problematic.
(Not that anyone will be left alive to apply the lesson...)

Post: #188

Another reason why Islamic terror is not like a major car accident - it changes the behavior of all people:

After the Champions League Final there was a massive stamped resulting in hundreds hurt.

Why? Because loud firecrackers were thought to be Islamic suicide bombers! Crowds behave like collective 3-year-olds - that is the new normal.

I would recommend Europeans to avoid large crowds because even a seeming Islamic terror can incite to very dangerous situations:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/wo...3b509622b7

Quote:Many fans then began to run out of the centre of the square, screaming in fear.

The panic may been started by the explosion of a loud firecracker that was mistaken for a bomb, according to a witness.

Such stampedes are especially dangerous to women and children - a 7yo boy was almost killed.
https://ocdn.eu/images/pulscms/Y2E7MDMsM...ec8b7.jpeg

This is the result of Islamic terror too. You cannot have suicide bombers blowing themselves up and expect people to remain calm as always. They don't think: "Ah - just a loud firecracker." NO they quickly think that it may be a suicide bomber and they are next.

Post: #189

I'm not even kidding.

Post: #190

(06-04-2017 03:10 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(06-04-2017 02:54 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

(06-03-2017 09:34 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Why do we always hear about terrorist attacks in England and France, but they never report the terrorist attacks in the xenophobic Hungary or Poland? Very unfair!

Daesh are obviously targeting countries that actively wage war against them on their "home" soil.

They are saying as much on their own social media channels. Of course the option to stop waging war on ISIS in an attempt at appeasement is out of the question.

Sweden was actively waging war against them?
The entire world was waging war against them for the last 1400 years? Jewish tribes were attacking Mohammed from Mecca?
US soldiers attacking the Barbary pirates in the 18th century? The fuckers took slaves right up until the 1950s-80s - many of them White slaves.
"Not attacking them" does not mean jack shit. But they need bigger local numbers in those areas and that is why Poland is not on the list.

Sweden has commited troops to fighting Daesh and their ilk in Mali and Afghanistan yes.

And we are all too familiar with your take that Islam should be abolished and that all its practitioners should be sent back from whence they came. You've made us much clear seeing how you spend the better part of the day on the forum repeating the same things over and over.

That's all fun and amusing to mentally masturbate over and it'd be great if that would just magically happen. For those of us living in the real world and looking for real solutions to the current mess such dream scenarios are adding nothing to the discussion but static.

Post: #191

When's the last time you offered a "real solution" Vicious?

You can't, because it would be more laughable than the idea of a total purge.

As I recall, you don't even accept that there's a problem. I seem to remember that your stance was "zat nussink in Austria has changed!"

Post: #192

(06-04-2017 04:09 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Sweden has commited troops to fighting Daesh and their ilk in Mali and Afghanistan yes.

And we are all too familiar with your take that Islam should be abolished and that all its practitioners should be sent back from whence they came. You've made us much clear seeing how you spend the better part of the day on the forum repeating the same things over and over.

That's all fun and amusing to mentally masturbate over and it'd be great if that would just magically happen. For those of us living in the real world and looking for real solutions to the current mess such dream scenarios are adding nothing to the discussion but static.

No - there are a myriad things you can do between outright ban of Islam and continue like always.

Easy steps:

+ Speak the fucking truth
+ tell that it is Islam and not poverty or any kind of excuses that motivate them
+ thousands are on watchlists - some foreign nationals - why not deport them?
+ why let former Ex-ISIS fighters back into the EU, you can strip them off the citizenship the moment they voluntarily cross the ISIS borders - even Arab nations have lists of those individuals - they are instead giving them welfare and in Sweden special care
+ why accept more Muslim immigration when the previous one was such a success? Is it soooo tough to only let in known Ex-Muslims, Christians and non-Muslims from those regions?
+ there used to be IRA potential terrorists internment camps, why not do it as well with the 3500+ of known potential terrorists?
+ why not shut down all radical mosques and schools which are known to be radical?
+ why constantly claim that Islamic terror has nothing to do with Islam?

Nah - there are many many things that one can do.

I would also start teaching everyone obligatory in school about Islam, I would have real documentaries run on prime TV about the real nature of Islam - the whole gamut about the peaceful years, then the brutal years, then the violent centuries, the slavery by Islam, the honor killings by Islam, the inbreeding still going on in Islamic countries and the Muslim community in the West, their thoughts about it.

I would tell the full Monty truth. Continue as always with a bigger anti-terror unit and more surveillance will not do jack-shit.

Also Ex-Muslims and Muslim reformers are attacked as bigots and the entire establishment of media, academia, entertainment, politics all double down on the fake narrative that Jihad has nothing to do with Islam.

He is a bigot:


He is a hateful Islamophobe:


She is constantly under police protection:


She would be dead too if it were not for police protection:


She also risks death:


Calling someone a racist and Islamophobe is easy. The left, the mainstream and the Muslim world is already doing that.

I speak the truth - over time you will see this conflict escalate. My proposals would end it without causing hundreds of millions of dead - maybe billions in the future. The continue-as-given-proposal will cause tremendous bloodshed.

Post: #193

Theresa May's speech

It took three attacks 10 weeks on British soil (which have killed over 30 people), but finally she's mentioned a link with Islam

"They are bound together by the single, evil ideology of Islamist Extremism"

Well it's a start....

Post: #194

Eternal reminder.

Post: #195

While this may seem like a terrible thing to say, I'm glad this happened and I hope for more in the months to come. Because it is slowly causing people to wake up. I keep hearing that nothing will change as a result of these attacks, but attitutes are beginning to shift. People I talk to who only weeks earlier were still welcoming of refugees are beginning to acknowledge that Islam in the West is a problem. It's tragic that it took the deaths of innocence teenage girls in Manchester to spark this awaking, but with every one of these attacks more people are becoming aware of the problem. It's also tragic that it will take many more of these attacks for the tide to finally turn. But when the tide does turn, these victims' deaths will not be in vain, in the same way that the victims of the blitz didn't die in vain as it strengthened the resolve ot the British to stand against fascism during WW2. Blood will continue to coat the pavements of European cities for many months or even years to come, and the more it happens the more men will rediscover their long-forgotten balls. The most tragic thing of all is that none of this needed to happen if not for the misguided experiment of artificial multi-culturalism, the result of which has been blindingly obvious for many years, and yet NOTHING was done to prevent it.

Post: #196

Total head in the sand stuff here. You want to stop actions like this happening again?

1. Stop selling arms to Saudi Arabia.
2. Stop supporting Saudi backed terrorists in Syria.
3. Cut off all business contacts with Saudi Arabia
4. Shut down every Saudi run mosque and madrassa in Europe.

Post: #197

(06-04-2017 04:30 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  When's the last time you offered a "real solution" Vicious?

You can't, because it would be more laughable than the idea of a total purge.

As I recall, you don't even accept that there's a problem. I seem to remember that your stance was "zat nussink in Austria has changed!"

Here is a solution:

Saudi is the #1 funder of jihadist ideology and they run entirely on oil exports. Anything we can do to keep oil prices low and lower demand for oil in the long term will eventually cause the Saudi regime to run out of money and collapse. No need to kiss up to leaders from that region and no more sponsoring of ISIS and jihadist schools throughout the world. When Mecca and Medina become shitholes and they can't accommodate Hajj anymore then the religion will lose its appeal.

Post: #198

(06-03-2017 08:35 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(06-03-2017 08:16 PM)iop890 Wrote:  Get a life, bin that knife!

Nice to know the rough parts of Glasgow will be the last to fall to the Prophet.

They would be welcomed with cups of tea and flowers in the city centre.

Post: #199

(06-04-2017 06:07 AM)Arado Wrote:  

(06-04-2017 04:30 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  When's the last time you offered a "real solution" Vicious?

You can't, because it would be more laughable than the idea of a total purge.

As I recall, you don't even accept that there's a problem. I seem to remember that your stance was "zat nussink in Austria has changed!"

Here is a solution:

Saudi is the #1 funder of jihadist ideology and they run entirely on oil exports. Anything we can do to keep oil prices low and lower demand for oil in the long term will eventually cause the Saudi regime to run out of money and collapse. No need to kiss up to leaders from that region and no more sponsoring of ISIS and jihadist schools throughout the world. When Mecca and Medina become shitholes and they can't accommodate Hajj anymore then the religion will lose its appeal.

You and Traktor hope this would work, in any case.

Not that your opinions on Saudi funding and weapons sales are relevant in the slightest. If we peons could tell the political class and the elites what to do then we could simply tell them to get rid of the muslims and stop bringing more.

The peons can't affect whether anyone buys Saudi oil or whether weapons manufacturers sell them merchandise. All that we can do is ready the torches and the pitchforks.

Pipe dreams about enacting some kind of magical circuit breaker that brings about world peace are delusional. You fight for your own space or you get trampled on. This is the history of the world and the future of the world. End of story.

Post: #200

Those measures they put in place are just to protect the well off and those in power. My recent visit to London, and specifically the areas which were involved allowed me a more concise perspective over this clusterfuck.

I was around all of the major arteries and tourist attractions, bridges, well off neighbourhoods, diplomatic areas and parks.

The overwhelming feeling I had was this; you are still not safe from Mr random lone wolf and his band of merry men.

Thats it.

But what made me laugh to myself is when I went to the well off areas around inner London.

- Mostly a mix of white, well off blacks and indians or other nationalities. predominantly white, and very, very liberal and laid back.

- No bins, whatsoever. In a time of the IRA bins were removed but residential areas were not exactly train stations and airports now were they? These areas also, understandibly included open areas with diplomatic elements.

Why do well off residential areas free of diplomatic or government presence have no litter bins and hardly, if any litter whatsoever?

- Beggars. No beggars were found in these areas. Probably because these people realised they get more money from the plebs in high traffic areas than the virtue signalling metropolitan elite who want to ring fence foreign aid and allow open borders.

- Anti-vehicle barriers.

Useless, unless someone see's a truck or van of peace approaching and screams for people to get the fuck out of the way AND then close the damn gate.

Funnily enough I saw many men put their hand on these barriers to check the weight and density. "Hmm, are these really able to stop a truck?" Including myself!

They are very good, solid designs but with many flaws - the execution of their use.

As I put before, you have to recognise a threat before you can act and its no use having one of these barriers if they get through and then start their death run. The area around Big Ben is full to the brim with tourists and other people on business. Traffic could easily swerve into about a dozen or more people before you even realise whats going on and by then its too late.

The only fail safe is other vehicles blocking the way with their mass.

Armed police are at the gates of Parliament, with a mix of other units close by but that doesn't stop vehicles before the act is done.

- They are not there to protect joe public

Where do you draw the line on protection? Anti-vehicle barriers and ramps everywhere? Such is the cost of freedom!

The police are a reactionary force and when deployed can then be a preventive force. Barriers are preventatives. Neither are solutions to the problems because you cannot enforce protection on every bridge and road.

So many large pavement areas with hundreds of people besides roads where you can get up to 40mp very easily. The only saving grace here are random metal poles, traffic lights and other items that can form a barrier of sorts.

None of these prevent a knife or gun attack.

There is a false charade of protection in this country and people believe they are safe. Most of these people have earphones in or are glued to their phones, tourists are goggle eyed and the police are bored.

We have let the trojan horse into the gates long ago and the term "you're stuck in here with me" is very true. We have tens of thousands of these Jihad warriors just looking and waiting for their chance and all the police can do is wait and hope they strike lucky.