Post: #1

While trying to maintain a girl's interest while competing with her news feed, beta orbiters spamming her phone with messages and everything else distracting her, awkward silences can be really detrimental.

Roosh emphasises in Bang the importance of avoiding silences when gaming girls, and although I personally don't find them particularly awkward in most cases, the words awkward and silence are practically synonymous, especially where I live.

I am amazed by girls' abilities to keep a stream of nonstop verbal blabber going.

For example, when talking to a girl recently the main things I could remember from the conversation were how her friends say her nose is really close to her lip, she has 257 messages on Tinder because her friend took her phone and swiped right on hundreds of guys and how she supports gay marriage and put a sticker on the back of her phone so that everybody has to know about it.

The topics were all so trivial yet she (and most other girls) are able to come up with them constantly and in every single possible context.

In Russian there's an expression called "болтать ерунду". It means something like talk nonsense in English. What I've noticed is that guys who can do this often get lots of girls.

What are some ideas for how you can successfully come up with endless blabber to avoid "awkward" silences and can keep a girl attentive for as long as it takes to get her to have sex with you?

Post: #2

Ideally...

You shouldn't. Most of the time your job is to keep her blabbering about herself and just ask good questions to keep things rolling forward. Also learn to think like a salesman. The more any "prospect" keeps talking, the more you learn about how they think and you can use that information to your advantage.

And don't be afraid to gently poke with some "why" questions. If your goal is what it probably is based on your post just don't argue past that; find some indirect way of complimenting them being really smart and caring.

Find a good active listening program. There's a few out there and others that can help as well. Even Toastmasters makes you go through some exercises in their introductory program.

Post: #3

Work on your ramble. And yeah, ask good questions to keep them talking as well.

Post: #4

Here is another tip: Literally repeat the last word or phrase she (or her friends if she is in a group) says. Most girls like to hear themselves talk and this keeps them going... Do so with a 'bit of uptick / verbal fry in your voice. Takes a 'bit of practice so as not to be too obvious about it, but works like a charm.

Also too, think about the last few new people you have met who you found genuinely interesting to talk to, or perhaps engaging from a conversational perspective. Did you do most of the talking or did they? By and large you will find that they kept you talking. Observe and try to emulate what they do.

Finally, learn how to do extemporaneous speaking. Good sources on this are Toastmasters or a Dale Carnegie course. Chances are your employer may pay for it... In addition to a great venue to meet interesting people, I would argue that any role (job) that requires interaction with other human beings will benefit.

Post: #5

Silence is no bad thing. Just hold eye contact, and smirk at her like the delicious little sex toy she is. If she is at all into you she'll playfully tell you off for looking at her like that. You can just smirk again and ask her something else about herself. Personally I find a few moments of well managed silence can have the same effect as an hour of game. Once you've made her laugh for a while, or intrigued her, or otherwise got her invested, a little well timed discomfort of the kind that makes her intensely aware of her carnal value can be very potent.

Post: #6

(08-17-2017 10:08 AM)eradicator Wrote:  Work on your ramble. And yeah, ask good questions to keep them talking as well.

I second the above. Asking questions is easy, and since women love talking about themselves at all times, it will keep them engaged in conversation.

It's easy to ask questions:

What do you do?
Her answer.

Cool, do you like it?
She answers again.

Where are you located?
Her answer.

Is that close to XX?
Her answer.

I love that area, do you ever go out there after work for drinks?
She answers.

This has always worked for me because I act like I give a shit and become this "great listener."

Of course, women will also ask questions but after you give a quick answer (before they usually interrupt), it will go right back to being all about themselves.

The reverse can also happen to where the woman you're dating will start to think your some kind of drill sergeant badgering her with all these questions. If the conversation is flowing that way, then after she answers one of your questions, follow up with a relatable statement about yourself and see if that keeps her interest. If not, then you can move forward with a question related to the current subject or say something about yourself she may find appealing/interesting.

Ultimately, it's all about how you gauge her personality and level of interest in you. Conversations shouldn't feel forced, it should be an equal back and forth but it usually gets to the point where the woman will dominate a majority of the conversation. If so, just sit back and let her ramble about pointless shit.

Post: #7

You could always mention astrology. She'll then blab shit for hours.

Post: #8

Alcohol. Have good stories to tell.

Post: #9

I can ramble with the best of em...but...

You want to say something that stirs some emotion in her, just like you would with a guy.

"This place seems like a cougar hookup bar....
...(see where the conversation goes)...

(if needed) I mean, I'm all for it. A lot of people hate on it, but ya know, you only live life once." blah blah blah

Clothes. Find someone at the bar who has a fashion similar to the 90s or something (you can make this up, you'll still have a good conversation). Start to share your styles when you were younger, then shift the attention to what she's wearing and her fashion.

Post: #10

I actually had to learn this from a bro of mine who is literally a virgin. If he put any effort into getting laid, he would. Easily. But he is satisfied with porn and fapping. Whatever.

Anyway, one lesson he taught me is this: "One doesn't tell a story for the benefit of the listener." Brag. Exaggerate. Pique her interest. No stories? Go make some. Take a trip to somewhere exotic on the cheap, survive, and live to tell the tale. Do a dangerous job on the side, make friends with crazy people, etc. Have something worth telling.

Post: #11

(08-17-2017 10:59 AM)Remington Wrote:  Ultimately, it's all about how you gauge her personality and level of interest in you. Conversations shouldn't feel forced, it should be an equal back and forth but it usually gets to the point where the woman will dominate a majority of the conversation. If so, just sit back and let her ramble about pointless shit.

This is pretty much what I do. Just ask open ended questions and let her ramble. I don't really give a shit about her answer and I'll just zone out.

This works but has bitten me in the ass several times as I'll ask the same question again at a later time and she'll say "We just talked about this" and then I have to laugh and say "I wasn't listening". Which...surprisingly works. She'll repeat herself (gives her another excuse to yap).

You'll have to be careful though if you are talking to multiple women at the same time. I forget which girl told me what.

Post: #12

My ramble seems very 'state dependent'.

Some nights, i'll go out, and things are just constantly coming to my brain. Interesting observations. Funny statements. Good questions.

But a few nights back, I saw a girl in a bar who i'd previously attempted to pull on a night when I was more 'on' (didn't work out for various reasons, but she asked ME for my number which never happens, text me straight away, etc). I saw her again a few nights after, and I was so stifled compared to the 1st time I met her, it was crazy. I was like ''So.....how have you been?'' she's like ''Fine''. I asked one more chode question, and from that point I literally had NOTHING to say. NOTHING!! haha. She gave up on me soon after that

Post: #13

Women are fixated with the social sphere. Gossip really doesn't describe the totality of what it is. It's a fascination they have with the web of relationships and how they all influence each other.

If they have a friend, they'll tell you everything about what's going on with that friend's life. Same deal with coworkers and relatives. Celebrity gossip or the unfolding plotline in a show like Game of Thrones is an extension of that impulse, treating people you don't really know or don't really exist as if they're part of the larger tribe.

Interwoven in all this is judgment. Is this person or that person doing the right thing? Did this person or that person disrespect or insult someone else? Drama to women is all about maintaining a black book of grievances about people.

If you spend enough time listening to it...it will all start to come across like whining about tempests in a teapot. This person did X to Y and isn't that terrible. Since this is all talking about people behind their back, it doesn't feel very productive. If she's got a problem with a person, she should confront them directly, but women don't do this. They mull this stuff over and try to find ways to respond indirectly. The takeaway is that how they manage their social life with others is the same way she'll manage her relationship with YOU too. So you can think you're being her confidant and all but odds are she's talking dirt about you behind your back to the same friends she's bashing when she talks to you.

What seems like petty soap opera is the center of women's existence. Their standing in the social pecking order means everything to them. This is true even for supermodels, who just start fixating on competition with other supermodels.

I've yet to meet a woman who was above the fray on this stuff. When I went out with a doctor who was probably making well over $200K a year she would whine about her coworkers.

Women just fixate more on the interpersonal sphere and it comes across as petty, whiney, and insecure to men.

The downside of being socially wired is you start to shift focus away from yourself and onto others. If you find yourself spending more time thinking about what's going on with other people you can begin to lose your grip on yourself and your own goals in life. To some people it acts like an escape, either to live vicariously or (National Enquirer style) feel a sense of comfort that some other people's lives are more miserable.

There's a term, "tend your own garden". It's something few women are able to do.

Post: #14

Don't blabber but do be a well informed individual with varied experiences.

Post: #15

Work on getting to what Nick Krauser calls the "hook point" and recognising when you're there. Blabber until that point, but after that you should be comfortable that she's attracted and then you shouldn't need to keep trying as hard.

Post: #16

OP, Roosh goes into more detail in his book Daygame. But I would basically start with some kind of context and shift your rambling to things you want to talk about or feel comfortable talking about. That makes it easier to ramble.

For example, I saw a girl at a trade show and she was eating a sandwich from a plate of sandwiches and looking at her phone. I sit down next to her and ask if the green stuff is guacamole. My plan was to then talk about the taste of guacamole and then mention an article I read about some of the health benefits. I can then go on to talking about my diet and fitness and what she thinks of the foods. As it turns out, she said it was pesto. So I then shifted to asking her about pesto. What is it and so on and we start talking about Italian food. I got this tip from someone else on the board but I then bring up a story from my youth about some food my mom made and how great it was. The goal here in evoking childhood memories is it will stir up emotions and thoughts in her that she will want to then share with you. But it really could have been any fun experience that you think she could relate to like getting your favorite toy, going swimming, the beach, water park, school for the first time, etc. Something that is likely to have a positive memory. Of course, I could have also gone a slightly different route after asking why she had so many sandwiches and after learning they were for coworkers, tease her that she was really training for a competitive eater contest and to not be shy about her dreams. Then, maybe I talk about how i learned how some guys actually trained for these events and so on and then talk about the guy on Man v. Food and how he put on weight and had a strict diet off the aire. The point here really isn't what you say so much but that you are talking enough to get her to relax and want to share information with you. Your goal is to throw out a number of different kinds of "bait" to allow her to jump in on something.

Another thing I read somewhere that I think can be helpful in any context is learn some fun facts about the city you are in or about the country you are in. This may be more for an opener part but it could be Did you know that XXX is the cheesburger capital of the world or that XXX women marry the youngest in all of Europe. You could again turn these into stories about childhood food memories or some funny memory about a wedding or whatever.

Roosh says you are basically waiting for her to start asking questions about you so you can go into GALNUC. So I think you need to change your mindset a bit to having fun with the Ramble rather than seeing it as something to endure. Really it is just an opportunity where you can work on your storytelling and joke telling a bit and a way to test out different bait to see what things get a good reaction from her. Basically, see it as more like a game and a chance for you to show off your creativity a little.