Post: #1

I am curious how you gents handle women cockblocks? For example, I am talking about situations usually at the bar where the woman tries to sweep in and steal her friend away from you when you are talking to her. I normally see this in two situations:

1. Early in the conversation before any touching, the other woman will physically grab the other woman by the hand and pull her away. This usually happens most often with girls in their young 20s.

2. You are beyond basic touching and talking and you have the woman in your arms and the other woman breaks in by saying she needs to talk to her friend or accuses you of taking advantage of her in some way. This usually happens towards the end of the night.

With the first situation, I am not sure how to handle this because you would almost have to grab the girl straight away or follow them to confront them. Since you haven't built up enough rapport yet, I am not sure if you can reasonably expect to do this. And if you did confront the cockblock how would be the best way to go about doing it (I saw a video that suggested these ideas but it was in a situation where two girls were waiting for a cab or lyft):

1. Build up the cockblocker's reputation as a good friend. Basically befriend her just like one might try with a male cockblock.
2. Go alpha funny where you physically pick up the girl and say no she is with me in a funny way. May be too much in this scenario.
3. Ask the girl you were talking to to dance to go for the steal back.

What things have worked for you or is this just a no win situation?

With the second situation, I find this come up where the other girl is upset because she is the less attractive or fat friend and can't find a guy that night and doesn't want to go home alone. Basically, the if she can't get laid, nobody gets laid thinking. She will effectively try to shame you and her friend. How do you handle this situation?

If needed, here, is an example for specific context where I am not sure how I should have progressed. I met two women at a bar earlier this month when I was out of town. One was single and the other married and they were from a post wedding party. The single one was a little fat and the attractive one was of course married. I talked to both of them and was nice and bought them drinks but ultimately started talking to the attractive woman as the other woman started talking to other guys at the bar. The attractive, married woman told me she had an open marriage (gay husband) which I don't believe the single, fat friend knew about it eventhough they were partners in a business together.

After this, things began to escalate between the two of us to where there was a lot of touching and holding and more. I am about to go in for the kiss and propose the bounce to my hotel room when her friend comes into break up the party. She first pretends to say her friend is drunk but we had not been drinking for a while and me and her shoo her away. She comes back again maybe 5 or 10 minutes later and loudly demands I take my hands off her friend. This was funny to me because her friend was more on me than me on her. Anyway, they have a big fight about this where the attractive friend comes back and gives me a big hug and says she has to go with her friend. How would you handle this situation?

Post: #2

Say 'you're being rude' firmly when the cockblocker starts pulling her away. She's a social violator by doing that. If her friend is into you then she won't let herself be pulled away. Girls do this as an option to their friend to let them be pulled away or not if they want to get away from a guy. It's an option they're giving their friend, that's why they'll cockblock on a guy they don't even know..... if she's into you she'll jokingly brush her friend away.

Cockblocking is basically a measure of if a girl is into you enough to ignore her friend's behavior. If she stays that's a very good sign for you. But the battle is already won or lost prior to said cockblocking IMO.

Post: #3

I would change venue while her friend is busy with the other guys. Tell her: I know an amazing place for shots 2 min from here, let's have a quick one and then come back. Before you do this you can also tell her: let's go outside for some fresh air or a cigarette (if you smoke). The objective to convince her that it's OK to leave her friend for a short while. Once you're in the other venue, you need to escalate. Your worst enemy is her phone but when a girl is really into you she will make it easy and dismiss her friend.

Post: #4

(08-17-2017 04:14 PM)Pointer Wrote:  I would change venue while her friend is busy with the other guys. Tell her: I know an amazing place for shots 2 min from here, let's have a quick one and then come back. Before you do this you can also tell her: let's go outside for some fresh air or a cigarette (if you smoke). The objective to convince her that it's OK to leave her friend for a short while. Once you're in the other venue, you need to escalate. Your worst enemy is her phone but when a girl is really into you she will make it easy and dismiss her friend.

Wise words. I am a big fan of the venue change idea. Think this is generally harder to do with a 2 set and easier with a larger set of girls. In this case, I wasn't sure how to pull off a venue change because I was in a bar that was in the sticks and didn't know where I was. The other girl caught me off guard too because she was cool with me talking to her friend before and SLC has an earlier closing time than I am used to.

I don't smoke nor prefer women that do but I like the general idea of stepping outside for fresh air. I think that could work well in other situations in the future.

I think my biggest downfall here was not knowing the logistics. Had I known the earlier closing time, I could have escalated earlier and preempted the cockblock. The other thing I think might have worked is when she pulled the cockblock, I could have tried to sweet talk her telling her she was a good friend and how we are all just people looking to have fun. Even play up the part saying she rejected me to talk to other guys. Tell her I really like her friend and she cares about her and so on and that she should join us. She would probably turn that down but in this way I make it an us versus her situation and have set the table for where I can leave with the attractive woman. I can even go on talking about how great a person she is with high morals and so on. Then, I call her a lyft home and/or bounce with the attractive woman. Of course, hindsight is 20/20.

Post: #5

(08-17-2017 03:34 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  Say 'you're being rude' firmly when the cockblocker starts pulling her away. She's a social violator by doing that. If her friend is into you then she won't let herself be pulled away. Girls do this as an option to their friend to let them be pulled away or not if they want to get away from a guy. It's an option they're giving their friend, that's why they'll cockblock on a guy they don't even know..... if she's into you she'll jokingly brush her friend away.

Cockblocking is basically a measure of if a girl is into you enough to ignore her friend's behavior. If she stays that's a very good sign for you. But the battle is already won or lost prior to said cockblocking IMO.

Solid post. After posting this thread, I read an old ROK blog post where he essentially gave the advice of saying to the cockblock, can I talk to your friend for a couple of minutes. This is basically the nicer equivalent of what you are suggesting. In my most recent run in with this, I was essentially doing an indirect opener and didn't feel I had enough buy in from the girl yet. Probably my fault for using an indirect opener in a bar. Had I opened with a direct opener, I can definitely see how your method would be effective.