Post: #1

It is well known that girls who invest much more time into messaging you, making efforts for you, and generally taking more of their time to do an activity that gets them closer to you,

they will view you as more important for them, more like you becoming sooner "their important love".

For example if a girl would text me long messages and write me more at the beginning, even before having a date, I knew that as long as she keeps writing longer and more messages than I do,
my chances to fclose her and then continue to have sex with her
are very high.

In your experience, what challenges or requests have made girls to write very much and very long to you, so that they invest more time in the relationship with you?

For me it was for example asking them to explain to me the verbs in their native language or grammar, they spent a long time explaining by emails and sms and the more time they spent, the more they started to fall in love with me.

Post: #2

Honestly, focus your energy on improving your face to face date game.

If you have god tier text game but can't perform on a date, you will very very very rarely close. If you have rudimentary text game + reasonable date skills your chances are much better.


Once you've fucked her though... one word replies when she's blowing up about something will usually get me a huge essay and/or 10 missed phone calls.

"Lol"
"K"
"Gag"

Post: #3

Completely and utterly dominate them in bed. Mix that in with some possessive talk, and a few emotional hints now and again. After you've made her feel like a woman in bed, hold her close and have her whisper her secrets in your ear while she's coming down from orgasm.

Owning your woman during dominant, orgasmic sex and then feeding her bits of emotion coupled with lots of physical contact will rock her in ways she's never experienced.

For example, when I use this on girls I'll make them feel like the only woman in the world for a few hours, and then they won't hear from me for a few days (I am legitimately busy).

With this, I've had girls beg to see me. They've canceled on work, on family, on friends, and on other comittments. Once they get to this point, I start having them do little favors for me. Whether its bringing me something, giving me a massage, dressing a certain way, or making them cook for me.

I actually track this stuff in a spreadsheet, and since I've moved locations (about 4 months now), I've had 5 different, high quality women confess to loving me. This was compared to 2 for the previous year alone. I only log it if I have demonstrable evidence of what they are saying.

Respectfully OP, texting is not a way to build attraction. The phone is for setting dates, and setting dates only. Getting your girls to explain things to you in person, after great sex is definitely a legitimate strategy that works well, but over SMS you're just a texting buddy and nothing else.

Post: #4

Yes, I definitely agree that dominating them and giving them very good orgasmic sex is very important.

It is a very good thing when a girl is more invested in you, compared to how much you invested in her.

Yes, girls do become addicted through very good (hard/brutal) sex for a long time, as long as you enjoy it and as long as your body allows it.

I noticed that the more girls I date, the more attractive I become for other girls,
so first I prefer having a base of enough girls who are interested/attracted to me,
before being able to build momentum for girls who are really in the 8-9/10 territorry (very attractive)

Post: #5

So what are you getting at with this post?

I've found in my own experiences that having long conversations over text is counter-productive to building raw attraction.

If you want a girl to invest more in you then you need to make an impression face to face and build up attraction to the point that she wants to put you above other things in her life. Long talks over the phone are for women, I would advise just using conversations on the phone to set up dates or push towards further escalation unless you want to end up being her gal pal.

If you're looking to have a girl fall completely in love with you and be obsessed with you, it's not gonna happen without either an insanely high level of attraction off the bat (like if you were a celebrity or athlete); or a mental disorder on her part.

Post: #6

(08-02-2018 05:51 AM)understandbpd Wrote:  In your experience, what challenges or requests have made girls to write very much and very long to you, so that they invest more time in the relationship with you?

Making requests or giving challenges is not the key to owning a chick's mind. I was having a conversation recently with a new dude at my work and he kept asking me questions abut how things were run and the informal relationships to take note of. I was bored out of my mind and quickly bounced when he had to take a call.

Another scenario: I was out on the town with a friend after work. There were no questions asked. Just observations and hilarious commentaries being passed back and forth between us. It was a great time and something I'd do with him again.

So that's the key there. To get a chick to invest in you, you have to get her hooked on to you someway somehow. Some do that by investing in externals(cars, rides, bikes, jewelries etc). Some do it by trying to impress her(my job, bankroll, conexiones etc). Some go the bodybuilding route.

As a player, you get her hooked by the sort of conversations you have with her that have an emotional impact on her. That invites a retort from her. That invites her to defend herself somewhat. That takes her mind to something pleasurable/ evocative etc. A conversation that makes her *think*, *feel*, *recall*.
Let that be your goal. Its the fuel she runs on. Give it to her. The energy output of your emotional fuel will break the Law of Seduction Thermodynamics as you know it.

Post: #7

In my experience the Benjamin Franklin effect seems highly overrated.

Post: #8

I do not think it is overrated.

In my experience, and I was with very many girls, the more a girl was writing to me longer emails, the more she was more dedicated and more in love with me,
ignoring other men and other prospects and waiting patiently me to meet with her again