Post: #1

So obviously the first answer would be “quit, get a new job duh!”

Yea this isnt a job Im gonna have forever or my career and when the time comes I’ll say fuck you to the management in this place but for the time being its the job thats keep me afloat.

So whats the deal you ask? I have been after a certain position for some time now and its excuse after excuse with my GM, most recently there is this chick that has been working in my area, she randomly starting talking shit about me (and others for that matter), telling bosses and other workers about how slow I am, need to be replaced (all ridiculous lies)

I went up to my GM and he was there in his office with 2 other bosses, I told them about her lies and and they all said its the first they heard of it (lies), he also said that its funny I say that because she was the only person who voted me for the job (ridiculous lie), two others told me that they voted me in, so who is lying? Those 2 guys or the GM? The chick who has it out for me for no reason was the ONLY one who voted for me?? Ok.

Its like the higher ups have their own litlle cliques and workers that they let do what they want while the actual hard workers get shit on..

Now this is all ridiculous and I understand that life isnt fair and there are politics everywhere but it still doesnt make it easy to deal with, these supervisors were talking to me like I was dumb and it is all a little inside joke for them, like I said Im not staying here, this opened my eyes that there will be no advancement for me here but how do you not get agrivated about bullshit like this?

Post: #2

For me it's keeping in mind it's a means to an end. It pays the bills until I move on, and after being screwed around so much I just cruise along. No putting in that little extra, no overtime, just doing what I have to do to fill in the day.

Just a means to an end. And laughing at all the stupidity.

Post: #3

I feel like they were just trying to diffuse the tension and to keep everyone in line. I would have said the same thing as the supervisor.

Post: #4

In the corporate world most people:

- Hate their job and show it
- Lie
- Gossip all the time
- Don't actually do any work
- Never do as they say
- Treat people below them shit and over flatter those above

My rules in the corporate world was:

- Always leave your personal life outside the workplace. Being mysterious makes people unsure about you which you can use to your advantage
- Always greet people and arrive with a smile
- Never ever engage in gossip
- Own your responsibilities and get shit done
- Act busy, and people will not bother you
- Make it easy to work with you by letting people know what they can expect
- Don't accept unreasonable shit, learn to say no
- If your boss push more tasks on you demand better pay

Learn what your boss and anyone holding power over you truly wants and give it to them. Your bosses can both break you and make life so much better for you depending if they like you or not. Make them love you

Identify the assholes and avoid them at all costs

Identify the talents and people you like and engage with them. At every workplace I observed who was the best people at the field I was working in and went straight to them and asked them to teach me to be as good as them. Done right they love the flattery and give you the blueprint to success

Learn the machine that you are a part of. If you work in sales better be friends with accounting, those responsible for delivering product / service to your customer and treat them really well etc. They will make your life much easier

If you are pals with your boss, easy to work with, deliver on your responsibilities and treat people well. You'll have few problems in my experience. I worked about 5-6 years in the corporate world before leaving to o my own business.

Post: #5

This representation of corporate life is as true as ever

Post: #6

Reposting this one I wrote since its very relevant.

(08-11-2018 04:24 AM)Built to Fade Wrote:  Your post reminded me of a couple of threads that discussed the politics of the corporate environment. They're from a few years ago, so I'll post the links here:
The Gervais Principle Thread (First posted on March 3, 2013)
Four major languages spoken in organizations among Sociopaths, Losers and the Clueless (First posted on March 8, 2014)

Direct Links From Ribbonfarm:
The Gervais Principle Home Page

1. The Gervais Principle, Or The Office According to “The Office”
2. The Gervais Principle II: Posturetalk, Powertalk, Babytalk and Gametalk
3. The Gervais Principle III: The Curse of Development
4. The Gervais Principle IV: Wonderful Human Beings
5. The Gervais Principle V: Heads I Win, Tails You Lose
6. The Gervais Principle VI: Children of an Absent God
   

It's a long read so you'll need time to digest the information from each part.

The most important thing in life is to maintain your reputation.

For everything in this universe, it takes a long time to build something and only a moment to destroy something.

Post: #7

(09-28-2018 02:43 AM)The Grey Wrote:  In the corporate world most people:

- Hate their job and show it
- Lie
- Gossip all the time
- Don't actually do any work
- Never do as they say
- Treat people below them shit and over flatter those above

My rules in the corporate world was:

- Always leave your personal life outside the workplace. Being mysterious makes people unsure about you which you can use to your advantage
- Always greet people and arrive with a smile
- Never ever engage in gossip
- Own your responsibilities and get shit done
- Act busy, and people will not bother you
- Make it easy to work with you by letting people know what they can expect
- Don't accept unreasonable shit, learn to say no
- If your boss push more tasks on you demand better pay

Learn what your boss and anyone holding power over you truly wants and give it to them. Your bosses can both break you and make life so much better for you depending if they like you or not. Make them love you

Identify the assholes and avoid them at all costs

Identify the talents and people you like and engage with them. At every workplace I observed who was the best people at the field I was working in and went straight to them and asked them to teach me to be as good as them. Done right they love the flattery and give you the blueprint to success

Learn the machine that you are a part of. If you work in sales better be friends with accounting, those responsible for delivering product / service to your customer and treat them really well etc. They will make your life much easier

If you are pals with your boss, easy to work with, deliver on your responsibilities and treat people well. You'll have few problems in my experience. I worked about 5-6 years in the corporate world before leaving to o my own business.

+1 great advice. Go to copy it into my notes for future reference

Post: #8

I used to get all riled up with office bullshit, politics, and drama. It made my life miserable and occupied a lot of my time.

But then my dad told me something very important:

Ear in, ear out.

What I do now is go into office, put my head down and work. I act nice to all my coworkers, listen to all the bullshit, and even when I don't agree or get along with someone, I just listen to them and get my task done.

I stopped caring and stopped trying to protest because I've realized that doing so is just not worth it. Just get my work done, collect my paycheck, and leave. In a few years I'll be location independent and will have my own business so I don't care.

Realize that stressing out over stupid office bullshit/politics will get you nowhere. Just be calm, create a game plan to get out of that office environment in a few years, and get your paycheck. Don't let stupid office bullshit ruin your life.

Post: #9

(09-27-2018 03:27 PM)TheDuncan Wrote:  So obviously the first answer would be “quit, get a new job duh!”

Yea this isnt a job Im gonna have forever or my career and when the time comes I’ll say fuck you to the management in this place but for the time being its the job thats keep me afloat.

So whats the deal you ask? I have been after a certain position for some time now and its excuse after excuse with my GM, most recently there is this chick that has been working in my area, she randomly starting talking shit about me (and others for that matter), telling bosses and other workers about how slow I am, need to be replaced (all ridiculous lies)

I went up to my GM and he was there in his office with 2 other bosses, I told them about her lies and and they all said its the first they heard of it (lies), he also said that its funny I say that because she was the only person who voted me for the job (ridiculous lie), two others told me that they voted me in, so who is lying? Those 2 guys or the GM? The chick who has it out for me for no reason was the ONLY one who voted for me?? Ok.

Its like the higher ups have their own litlle cliques and workers that they let do what they want while the actual hard workers get shit on..

Now this is all ridiculous and I understand that life isnt fair and there are politics everywhere but it still doesnt make it easy to deal with, these supervisors were talking to me like I was dumb and it is all a little inside joke for them, like I said Im not staying here, this opened my eyes that there will be no advancement for me here but how do you not get agrivated about bullshit like this?

It sounds like you work at a store in the mall. Quit holding out for that assistant part-time night manager promotion. Get a job where you can actually contribute value.

Post: #10

(09-28-2018 02:43 AM)The Grey Wrote:  In the corporate world most people:

- Hate their job and show it
- Lie
- Gossip all the time
- Don't actually do any work
- Never do as they say
- Treat people below them shit and over flatter those above

My rules in the corporate world was:

- Always leave your personal life outside the workplace. Being mysterious makes people unsure about you which you can use to your advantage
- Always greet people and arrive with a smile
- Never ever engage in gossip
- Own your responsibilities and get shit done
- Act busy, and people will not bother you
- Make it easy to work with you by letting people know what they can expect
- Don't accept unreasonable shit, learn to say no
- If your boss push more tasks on you demand better pay

Learn what your boss and anyone holding power over you truly wants and give it to them. Your bosses can both break you and make life so much better for you depending if they like you or not. Make them love you

Identify the assholes and avoid them at all costs

Identify the talents and people you like and engage with them. At every workplace I observed who was the best people at the field I was working in and went straight to them and asked them to teach me to be as good as them. Done right they love the flattery and give you the blueprint to success

Learn the machine that you are a part of. If you work in sales better be friends with accounting, those responsible for delivering product / service to your customer and treat them really well etc. They will make your life much easier

If you are pals with your boss, easy to work with, deliver on your responsibilities and treat people well. You'll have few problems in my experience. I worked about 5-6 years in the corporate world before leaving to o my own business.

With all the feminism in the corporate world, what should a man do?

Post: #11

(11-11-2018 10:17 PM)Juancho Hernangomez Wrote:  With all the feminism in the corporate world, what should a man do?

Never experienced much of it in the companies I worked in. Was performance based and had cool bosses. Also, I don't live in the west.

So don't know bro.

Post: #12

(11-11-2018 10:17 PM)Juancho Hernangomez Wrote:  With all the feminism in the corporate world, what should a man do?

Avoid when possible, game them when you can't avoid.

Post: #13

Having experienced a female boss on more than one occasion lve realised that if lm down because someone is treating me like shit, which most of them do let's be honest because as bosses they suck, then my life is not so great and l need to work on making everything else better because that's what's really bothering me, not the dumb bitch l work for.

Post: #14

You know the deal, you hinted you get the drift in your first post.

If you hate it, change it.

Post: #15

(11-12-2018 05:19 PM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

(11-11-2018 10:17 PM)Juancho Hernangomez Wrote:  With all the feminism in the corporate world, what should a man do?

Avoid when possible, game them when you can't avoid.

I wonder how the "feminism" is at a Google, Amazon, Goldman Sachs or any other monopoly MNC office in Eastern Europe, South America, China, etc.

Assuming they hire locals, would the women behave like anglo/american girls (rah rah femisim, hashtag metoo, women empowerment, equality) or a local girl from her culture (traditional, etc) or a hybrid of both?

I am very curious if anyone here has worked for these multi-billionaire MNCs outside of the anglosphere and what your experience has been like -- compared with one back in USA/Canada/UK/Australia

Post: #16

As valuable as starting your own business can be -- or even just keeping your head down and more or less avoiding your coworkers -- there's definitely a lot to be said for actively seeking out a workplace where you like the people, like the product, and like the job. Realistically, you're going to spend a lot of your time in the workplace as an adult. You may as well put yourself in a place that you actually like.

Hit up recruiters, actively job search, don't settle for your shitty company with its shitty people. There are absolutely are places out there that are not like this. I'm working at a job that I like right now -- it's a great experience. I'm not exactly super excited to come to work every day, but I'm overall happy with it. It's way better than my old job, where I had the same mentality as many of you -- keep your head down and ignore the bullshit.