Post: #101

(10-26-2018 01:42 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  Second, how was he getting away driving like that for an extended period of time? That's a moving violation every time he drives that thing. He would need a Parkland sheriff running interference for him just to keep his license, unless there is something regional I don't understand.

It's a common misconception that you can't black out/cover rear and rear-side windows. In the majority of states a van like this can have completely blacked out/covered rear windows. If you didn't have side-mirrors then you'd need to have see through windows to the rear, but as long as your windshield and passenger/driver side windows are clear (or tinted under the legal limit) you won't even get a 2nd glance.

It's interesting to me that you claim to be former LEO and don't know this. Perhaps an area of law enforcement that wasn't pulling people over for moving violations?

From this source:

Quote:Rear windows: When the rear window is composed of, covered by, or treated with any material which makes the rear window non-transparent, the vehicle must be equipped with side mirrors on both sides.

TL;DR: Nowhere near a moving violation in most states.

(10-26-2018 03:18 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  What is chipendales? Is that a male strip club?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chippendales

Post: #102

(10-26-2018 03:18 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  What is chipendales? Is that a male strip club?

Points for not knowing that.

Post: #103

(10-26-2018 11:39 AM)Roosh Wrote:  His Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/hardrock2016

Aaaand...

They've already locked it down.

Post: #104

This guy is basically the MAGA version of the typical Muslim patsy in the FBI's "foiled terror plots". It goes something like this: through its surveillance networks, the FBI discovers an oddball guy, who is usually either half-retarded or mentally ill (or both). The guy is then contacted by FBI informants and/or undercover agents who act very friendly to the guy and try to gain his trust. Weirdo guys like this rarely have many friends, so they are flattered by the attention. The newfound friends then suggest the patsy go along with them in some sort of plot. Usually it's just asking for help, like picking up a package and driving it somewhere (these plots often involve the delivery of fake bombs supplied by the FBI). The patsy, not wanting to lose his new friends, goes along with it and does what they ask. He is then arrested in a sting and charged with numerous terrorism-related felonies. The FBI then takes credit for "foiling a terrorist attack". It's complete bullshit.

What possibly happened here: this guy is clearly a bit off his rocker and has a long criminal rap sheet. He's on somebody's radar already. He's also got a strong pro-Trump social media presence. In other words, he's just the sort of guy to make the perfect patsy as a "MAGA bomber". It might be that he's dumb enough and suggestible enough that he was actually provided with fake bombs and had some active role in sending them, or he might have just been completely framed. Who knows. It's also possible that he's legitimately just a nut and actually did mail out the fake bombs all on his own. All I'm saying is that it's entirely within the realm of possibility that he was set up/entrapped and given fake bombs, because the FBI has been running that scam for years and has it down to a science.

Post: #105

So this deranged (alleged) perpetrator is, reportedly, a Filipino immigrant, obsessed with Italian soccer, and fancying himself simultaneously as a (fake) "unconquered Seminole" or a handsome socialist (Randazzo) minister - and somehow "it's President Trump's fault" , according to MSM? Is President Trump responsible for the behavior of illiterate, mentality-sick migrants who came into the USA decades ago?

Also, every day, (bad) people voting for Hillary or other Dems, commit murders and gang-rapes - so where is the outrage for these numerous, under-reported crimes? For each "Conservative" occasionally and clumsily attempting to commit a crime, you'd probably have twenty "Liberals" who actually do commit a violent crime. But the media focuses exclusively on the former.

In any case, the alleged perp (pictured below on the left) in this case, is no political militant, he's just a regular crazy broke bodybuilder settled in Florida.

So, well, this dumb (if guilty) dude has sadly emulated The Rock and Mark Wahlberg in the movie:


^Pain and no gain. Sad!

Post: #106

Post: #107

Does Cesar Sayoc enter the vaunted status of "white hispanic" now...?

Post: #108

Post: #109

If CNN & the like start inferring that Trump is a terrorist instigator; they may well overplay their hand in this latest news.

Oh who am I kidding; of course the fake news crowd will overplay their hand in all this.


@mcgilh
7m

Quote:Shamefully Bias fake journalist CNN Host Jim Sciutto Compares President Trump to Radical ISIS Terrorists (VIDEO) https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10...sts-video/ … via @gatewaypundit

Post: #110

I still don't get why they're calling him a "bomber", he didn't hurt anyone or make any explosive devices, just props.

By that measure, the multitude of antifa/blm members that have comitted acts of violence are far worse criminals. Why aren't we tracking down and throwing the real domestic terrorists in prison?

Post: #111

I wonder how much they paid him. Im reminded of this:

Post: #112

(10-26-2018 06:56 PM)NomadofEU Wrote:  I still don't get why they're calling him a "bomber", he didn't hurt anyone or make any explosive devices, just props.

By that measure, the multitude of antifa/blm members that have comitted acts of violence are far worse criminals. Why aren't we tracking down and throwing the real domestic terrorists in prison?

The fake news crowd need to insinuate that Trump is a terrorist by extension.
Cause rascist, Nazi & Hitler catcalls haven't stopped Trump yet.

Fantasy accusations of "terrorist" may just do the trick -this-time...

Post: #113

The nervous man, just received a hoax device in the mail...



Now even -more- nervous.

Post: #114

If this man is not totally, clinically sick, I think a motive could be, has to be (logically), that he was, up to a recent date, a "Trump supporter", but changed his mind and decided to deal a severe (though unjust) blow to the Republicans just before the mid-term elections.

I mean, either he's completely crazy, or he had to know that he was offering an immense gift to the Democrats, with his grotesque and evil fake bombs. So what would be his motive? It can only be, this man was not a Trump supporter anymore, or, maybe he never was and had been preparing his act for two years.

Maybe Sayok posed as a Trump supporter for two years, preparing his devastating attack on Republicans (through manufactured victimization of "Liberals"). Because, it's a fact that Sayok has just given new hopes of victory for the Dems, and he could not possibly ignore this.

So I see three possibilities:
A. Sayok is crazy, clinically nuts

B. Sayok was a Trump supporter up to a recent date, then changed his mind (being rejected by true and serious Trump supporters maybe?, thus Sayok could have become infuriated and plotted a revenge?)

or C. Sayok is a cunning gay stripper who always hated Trump. So Sayok prepared during two years his bad deed, posing as an outrageous extreme Trump supporter, preparing for his fake bomb campaign, to be launched at the most damaging moment.

I could even add a D option here, concerning Sayok possibly being paid or manipulated or both, by a foreign service (see the post by Scorpion above, but note that it could apply also to a foreign intel service, manipulating Sayok).

(Note by the way that one fingerprint of Sayok was conveniently and nicely left on one "bomb", it does seem to have been left on purpose, either by Sayok or by his handlers).

I am in any case quite sure of one thing: like in the Vegas case (whose shooter somehow reminds me of Sayok), the full and complete truth will never be known.

Post: #115

(10-26-2018 06:56 PM)NomadofEU Wrote:  I still don't get why they're calling him a "bomber", he didn't hurt anyone or make any explosive devices, just props.

By that measure, the multitude of antifa/blm members that have comitted acts of violence are far worse criminals. Why aren't we tracking down and throwing the real domestic terrorists in prison?

Fake News needs a Fake Bomber

Post: #116

How did CNN find this pipe bomber in a crowd at a rally so quickly? I found this amusing because it looks like it's staged.

Post: #117

(10-26-2018 03:31 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 01:42 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  Second, how was he getting away driving like that for an extended period of time? That's a moving violation every time he drives that thing. He would need a Parkland sheriff running interference for him just to keep his license, unless there is something regional I don't understand.

It's a common misconception that you can't black out/cover rear and rear-side windows. In the majority of states a van like this can have completely blacked out/covered rear windows. If you didn't have side-mirrors then you'd need to have see through windows to the rear, but as long as your windshield and passenger/driver side windows are clear (or tinted under the legal limit) you won't even get a 2nd glance.

It's interesting to me that you claim to be former LEO and don't know this. Perhaps an area of law enforcement that wasn't pulling people over for moving violations?

From this source:

Quote:Rear windows: When the rear window is composed of, covered by, or treated with any material which makes the rear window non-transparent, the vehicle must be equipped with side mirrors on both sides.

TL;DR: Nowhere near a moving violation in most states.

(10-26-2018 03:18 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  What is chipendales? Is that a male strip club?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chippendales

You are correct that I was not a traffic cop. In light of all the recently exposed posers it's probably a good idea for respected senior members like Aneroid to vet people if anything appear questionable, so we don't end up with more "NASA Test Pilots" clogging up the feed

I just sent you a PM to start establishing my bonadfides and, for the benefit of the forum, please publicly post whether I'm

A- Fake

B - Legit

C - Legit as F**k

I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but bad advice can genuinely hurt people sometimes, so I thinks it's genuinely good for the forum to do this on occasion.

Post: #118

(10-26-2018 01:42 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  I hate to say it, but as weak as this is, it's going to be enough to do it's job and mobilize some votes against us.

I disagree.
Nobody is going to change their vote over this. Republicans are just as convinced that this is a false flag as Democrats are that this is any sort of serious threat. It's all theatre right now.

Post: #119

Why does the guy who has the closeups of the van down by the river

https://twitter.com/thereal_mo01

also retweet about "crisis actors" in a tweet several months ago?

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/...4382758912

In addition to a bunch of really intensely pro Debbie tweets.

https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/...2814067713

Post: #120

(10-26-2018 07:24 PM)Going strong Wrote:  If this man is not totally, clinically sick, I think a motive could be, has to be (logically), that he was, up to a recent date, a "Trump supporter", but changed his mind and decided to deal a severe (though unjust) blow to the Republicans just before the mid-term elections.

I mean, either he's completely crazy, or he had to know that he was offering an immense gift to the Democrats, with his grotesque and evil fake bombs. So what would be his motive? It can only be, this man was not a Trump supporter anymore, or, maybe he never was and had been preparing his act for two years.

Maybe Sayok posed as a Trump supporter for two years, preparing his devastating attack on Republicans (through manufactured victimization of "Liberals"). Because, it's a fact that Sayok has just given new hopes of victory for the Dems, and he could not possibly ignore this.

So I see three possibilities:
A. Sayok is crazy, clinically nuts

B. Sayok was a Trump supporter up to a recent date, then changed his mind (being rejected by true and serious Trump supporters maybe?, thus Sayok could have become infuriated and plotted a revenge?)

or C. Sayok is a cunning gay stripper who always hated Trump. So Sayok prepared during two years his bad deed, posing as an outrageous extreme Trump supporter, preparing for his fake bomb campaign, to be launched at the most damaging moment.

I could even add a D option here, concerning Sayok possibly being paid or manipulated or both, by a foreign service (see the post by Scorpion above, but note that it could apply also to a foreign intel service, manipulating Sayok).

(Note by the way that one fingerprint of Sayok was conveniently and nicely left on one "bomb", it does seem to have been left on purpose, either by Sayok or by his handlers).

I am in any case quite sure of one thing: like in the Vegas case (whose shooter somehow reminds me of Sayok), the full and complete truth will never be known.

E. (A variant of C with an important distinction.) Dirty Debbie the ballot destroyer and other Soros / Clinton Dems have control of the black box voting in certain locations such as South Florida, Orlando, and Jacksonville. They have preplanned spectacular results for the leftist black Jacksonville mayor who could not otherwise win as governor, and other Dem super victories which will be easy to them by boosting votes where the control the machines. Without the story of the Maga mail man, the results they have programmed / bought would look wrong. When they have their fraudulently gotten victories they can say "see" because of these crazy trump people we deserve to win.

Post: #121

(10-27-2018 12:24 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 07:24 PM)Going strong Wrote:  If this man is not totally, clinically sick, I think a motive could be, has to be (logically), that he was, up to a recent date, a "Trump supporter", but changed his mind and decided to deal a severe (though unjust) blow to the Republicans just before the mid-term elections.

I mean, either he's completely crazy, or he had to know that he was offering an immense gift to the Democrats, with his grotesque and evil fake bombs. So what would be his motive? It can only be, this man was not a Trump supporter anymore, or, maybe he never was and had been preparing his act for two years.

Maybe Sayok posed as a Trump supporter for two years, preparing his devastating attack on Republicans (through manufactured victimization of "Liberals"). Because, it's a fact that Sayok has just given new hopes of victory for the Dems, and he could not possibly ignore this.

So I see three possibilities:
A. Sayok is crazy, clinically nuts

B. Sayok was a Trump supporter up to a recent date, then changed his mind (being rejected by true and serious Trump supporters maybe?, thus Sayok could have become infuriated and plotted a revenge?)

or C. Sayok is a cunning gay stripper who always hated Trump. So Sayok prepared during two years his bad deed, posing as an outrageous extreme Trump supporter, preparing for his fake bomb campaign, to be launched at the most damaging moment.

I could even add a D option here, concerning Sayok possibly being paid or manipulated or both, by a foreign service (see the post by Scorpion above, but note that it could apply also to a foreign intel service, manipulating Sayok).

(Note by the way that one fingerprint of Sayok was conveniently and nicely left on one "bomb", it does seem to have been left on purpose, either by Sayok or by his handlers).

I am in any case quite sure of one thing: like in the Vegas case (whose shooter somehow reminds me of Sayok), the full and complete truth will never be known.

E. (A variant of C with an important distinction.) Dirty Debbie the ballot destroyer and other Soros / Clinton Dems have control of the black box voting in certain locations such as South Florida, Orlando, and Jacksonville. They have preplanned spectacular results for the leftist black Jacksonville mayor who could not otherwise win as governor, and other Dem super victories which will be easy to them by boosting votes where the control the machines. Without the story of the Maga mail man, the results they have programmed / bought would look wrong. When they have their fraudulently gotten victories they can say "see" because of these crazy trump people we deserve to win.

Hadn't thought of that angle whatsoever.

Puts another spin on this comment too -

Quote: .
Nobody is going to change their vote over this. Republicans are just as convinced that this is a false flag as Democrats are that this is any sort of serious threat. It's all theatre right now.

He could be completely right and their strategy would still be working

Post: #122

This guy appears to be clinically insane. The guys who shot Steve Scalise and beat up Rand Paul, on the other hand, were not insane but just plain evil.

Post: #123

Yea dont think this is a false flag, but this guy was just clearly crazy. The media would have loved if he was white too, they wont mention his race in this case clearly.

Post: #124

Interesting. The Seminole tribe has totally canned the idea that he might have been an employee of the Hard Rock, so he was using "we" on his own and delusionally, including trespassing people off Hard Rock properties and apparently bringing Papa John's pizzas to Wal-Mart in support of their CEO.



One person recalled him working security or as a promoter at a Hard Rock event once - but the guy wasn't even important enough to remember what his job actually was. Kind of sounds like he just had a gig there one night and never let it go. Makes me wonder if all of his claims to "manage" various businesses or even work there over the years weren't all completely in his head.

Since declaring bankruptcy while living with his mom, he ended up living in that van. His bomb threat against a Florida electric company was over an unpaid bill. I noticed some of his ad hoc Republican campaign materials promised "financial independence for everybody".

I guess I'd be pretty angry at somebody, too, if I was 50+, living in my car, and still not figuring out why nobody wants to hire me.

He would also apparently give money to all the homeless people near his parked van, as if he wasn't, himself, homeless.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-w...67845.html

Is Schizophrenic Gamma a thing?

Post: #125

From an article in USA Today


USA TODAY: For alleged bomber Cesar Sayoc, the truth was bendable

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/...778580002/

"Scott Meigs, 52, of West Palm Beach, said he worked alongside Sayoc for two decades at strip clubs all over South Florida and said his colleague had never uttered a word about politics. Until about a month ago."