Post: #1

Ok, so I'm down with an escort not being a replacement at all for having good game and meeting women the real way.

However an escort can be a great way to break a dry spell, get back in the grove and get rid of neediness.

After being in an experience of paying up for a hot high end escort type situation, I went to the bar later that week and had a revived sense of confidence. Its great walking into a bar having banged a girl hotter than any girl in there.

When I escalate and go for it my fear is a lot less since I have that fail safe as a last resort. I'm taking things further and further with less attachment to outcome.

I would say keep this escort or even massage parlor fail safe as at most something you resort to once a month or every few weeks.

Never want to depend on it though. I don't get why there are so many escort haters.

Just think if you could get a girl that is hotter than most guys could come close to banging would you pay for it for an hour??

So keep this in mind for those of you guys in a bit of a dry spell. Who else here has felt a bit of a refresh after doing this after a dry spell or a night of failed approahes??

Note: I would never dare be the dude who drives streets trying to solicit hookers, but a good escort has been used by many powerful men not just losers.

Pro Athletes, Politicians, Actors etc.

I know guys in DC who after a night where they don't score in Dupont or Georgetown hit up a nice massage parlor as their backup.

Post: #2

Whatever works. I'm not one to hate, just not my style. Plus, I'm a cheap bastard.

Post: #3

(10-12-2011 05:57 PM)pros80 Wrote:  However an escort can be a great way to break a dry spell, get back in the grove and get rid of neediness.

Roosh just closed another thread dealing with the P4P scene. This is not a p4p forum.

If you want advice on hookers/escorts, take it to the dozens of forums that welcome it; don't bring it here man!

Mixx

Post: #4

This isn't about hookers and how to get hookers,

This post is how going to a escort once in awhile will give you a boost of confidence in your PUA game. I'm more interested to hear if other guys have done it and had a revived sense of confidence when hitting on girls at the bar later.

I experienced that increase in confidence. Roosh had a post about Should a Prostitute replace game. The obvious answer is no, but it can help a guy in a dry spell get a bit of a pick me up .

Post: #5

If you get used to a fall back plan it will ruin your game.

Stay thirsty and learn!

Post: #6

I completely agree with you.
The ultimate key to success/confidence with women is the development of an abundance mentality. That is what everyone is ultimately trying to cultivate with game.

What better way to cultivate said mentality than to go bang a model quality escort? Pussy is pussy, who cares how you got it? The abundance mentality will be there regardless of how you go about grabbing it.

It makes sense, but you'll find a lot of opposition to it because, in the USA at least, "real men" don't bother with escorts. I've yet to hear someone offer a good, solid line of reasoning against it. I'm not sure there is one unless you're religious.

Post: #7

I want to bang an Asian girl at a spa. My buddy always goes but I never have.

Post: #8

(10-12-2011 06:14 PM)houston Wrote:  I want to bang an Asian girl at a spa. My buddy always goes but I never have.

Here is the deal with that, Girls at those places don't usually offer sex, but if you are in decent shape and game them well you can very well get them to bang you without paying more.

Post: #9

To break a dry spell go fuck something. Lower your standards a bit. There is a reason guys go into a dry spell. Figure out why. The last thing I would do is run off to poke a hooker. It's counter productive, and taking the easy way out.

Post: #10

(10-12-2011 06:19 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  To break a dry spell go fuck something. Lower your standards a bit. There is a reason guys go into a dry spell. Figure out why. The last thing I would do is run off to poke a hooker. It's counter productive, and taking the easy way out.

What you say is true and a long term solution, but to really get a fresh sense of energy having actuall sex with a hot woman really does something for confidence even if you have to pay for it.

I got flaked on by a 6 in DC and then said hell with it and went to a really hot high end escort visiting town temporarily. As far as quality of sex goes that 6 would never compare to what I paid for.

Again don't make a habit of doing this.

Post: #11

In this case, the result (true, improved confidence) is the only thing that matters. Again, if it works for you, why are you here asking us approval? Do you.

Post: #12

In Argentina its not really that big a deal and lots of guys even with great game that get one night stands 1 out of 4 nights out usually will go the 3 other nights to "cabarets" to get laid. After I broke up with my ex I went once when a friend took me there without telling me to get a "drink". It was fun but the effect it had on me was just really relaxing and I went to the other extreme of not giving a shit to the point that I didn't even try that hard to game and wouldn't open girls half as much.

I went ahead and sucked it up and went on a 5 month dry spell but by the end of it I was really pushing myself. I think it can be great fun for guys who already have really tight game and have plenty of pussy but just want to do it for fun when nothing closes. Or for people like the OP who it goes ahead and makes their game better. I think the best thing is to try it and see what effect it has on you. Don't get hooked and dependent though!

Post: #13

I'd bang a 10 hooker w/o question . Not because i'm not suppose to but because i want to fuck her brains out.

Post: #14

(10-12-2011 06:25 PM)Gmac Wrote:  In this case, the result (true, improved confidence) is the only thing that matters. Again, if it works for you, why are you here asking us approval? Do you.

I wanted to share how it helped me when going out to PUA girls, and maybee some other guys wanna give it a additional try to lift their game in field.

Post: #15

(10-12-2011 05:57 PM)pros80 Wrote:  Note: I would never dare be the dude who drives streets trying to solicit hookers, but a good escort has been used by many powerful men not just losers.

One thing I can't respect is when dudes fake the funk.

Your little disclaimer is so you can feel better about yourself because you're picking up bitches off Backpage instead of Martin Luther King Drive.

The main difference between the street hookers and the escorts is a fucking computer dude. Common street hookers become backpage superstars once they get an internet connection.

Ultimately, you buy pussy because you can't get pussy to buy you. I'm not trying to shame you for it, but keep it 100, some of us have stepped through enough bullshit to know how it smells, what it sounds like, and it how it feels.

Post: #16

(10-12-2011 06:36 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(10-12-2011 05:57 PM)pros80 Wrote:  Note: I would never dare be the dude who drives streets trying to solicit hookers, but a good escort has been used by many powerful men not just losers.

One thing I can't respect is when dudes fake the funk.

Your little disclaimer is so you can feel better about yourself because you're picking up bitches off Backpage instead of Martin Luther King Drive.

The main difference between the street hookers and the escorts is a fucking computer dude. Common street hookers become backpage superstars once they get an internet connection.

Ultimately, you buy pussy because you can't get pussy to buy you. I'm not trying to shame you for it, but keep it 100, some of us have stepped through enough bullshit to know how it smells, what it sounds like, and it how it feels.

I actually got the one off a well know adult film star with her own website. If you wanna hate thats cool.

If I'm going out on the street its to hit on regular cute girls to date.

Post: #17

(10-12-2011 06:19 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  To break a dry spell go fuck something. Lower your standards a bit. There is a reason guys go into a dry spell. Figure out why. The last thing I would do is run off to poke a hooker. It's counter productive, and taking the easy way out.

So, when it comes to dry spells I have a choice, then.

A. Lower my standards and fuck a 5 who I don't want to fuck just for the sake of fucking. Invest significant time into finding and gaming said 5(probably a little money too at a club).

B. Put a little cash forward and go fuck an 8/9 I'm actually attracted to.

B seems like a very easy choice here, but what I'd like to know is what I get for going with choice A?
People throw out terms like "easy out" and "counter-productive" when referring to choice B, but how is that so? What special reward do I get for foregoing choice B, save for a less attractive girl and more time spent pursuing her? My goal here is simply to get some action, so why not select the option that gets me the best action? Why make it harder than it needs to be?

I just don't get it. Opponents of this type of suggestion constantly state that it is "too easy", and yet I never hear a good reason why it should be harder.

Post: #18

(10-12-2011 06:19 PM)pros80 Wrote:  

(10-12-2011 06:14 PM)houston Wrote:  I want to bang an Asian girl at a spa. My buddy always goes but I never have.

Here is the deal with that, Girls at those places don't usually offer sex, but if you are in decent shape and game them well you can very well get them to bang you without paying more.

I'm talking about illegal "spas" where guys go to fuck the girls. They're all over town.

Post: #19

Quote:This post is how going to a escort once in awhile will give you a boost of confidence in your PUA game. I'm more interested to hear if other guys have done it and had a revived sense of confidence when hitting on girls at the bar later.

Yep. It works. My coworker does it all the time. He's late 40's, if he gets nervous before a date he'll hit up a massage parlor. He says 1) The girls are really sweet, and make you feel like 'a man'..(.better for the self esteem than getting constantly shot down by a steady stream of women. No game you say? wait till you're 48. ) 2) he'll never get a hot young girl at his age 3) garanteed ROI., 4) he doesn't have time to chase after 7's who he'll have to work his ass off to seduce, and for what?? a potential rejection, from a 6 or 7, not so good for the self-esteem. So, for him it's been an excellent service. He said he got some mojo back and his dates went 'surprisingly' well.

Post: #20

(10-12-2011 06:51 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(10-12-2011 06:19 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  To break a dry spell go fuck something. Lower your standards a bit. There is a reason guys go into a dry spell. Figure out why. The last thing I would do is run off to poke a hooker. It's counter productive, and taking the easy way out.

So, when it comes to dry spells I have a choice, then.

A. Lower my standards and fuck a 5 who I don't want to fuck just for the sake of fucking. Invest significant time into finding and gaming said 5(probably a little money too at a club).

B. Put a little cash forward and go fuck an 8/9 I'm actually attracted to.

B seems like a very easy choice here, but what I'd like to know is what I get for going with choice A?
People throw out terms like "easy out" and "counter-productive" when referring to choice B, but how is that so? What special reward do I get for foregoing choice B, save for a less attractive girl and more time spent pursuing her? My goal here is simply to get some action, so why not select the option that gets me the best action? Why make it harder than it needs to be?

I just don't get it. Opponents of this type of suggestion constantly state that it is "too easy", and yet I never hear a good reason why it should be harder.

Thats sorta my rationale. But it will cost more $$ if you want a 9/10 looks escort in the USA. So don't do it too often. But u will see the difference next time you go out to hunt.

Post: #21

(10-12-2011 07:13 PM)pros80 Wrote:  

(10-12-2011 06:51 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(10-12-2011 06:19 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  To break a dry spell go fuck something. Lower your standards a bit. There is a reason guys go into a dry spell. Figure out why. The last thing I would do is run off to poke a hooker. It's counter productive, and taking the easy way out.

So, when it comes to dry spells I have a choice, then.

A. Lower my standards and fuck a 5 who I don't want to fuck just for the sake of fucking. Invest significant time into finding and gaming said 5(probably a little money too at a club).

B. Put a little cash forward and go fuck an 8/9 I'm actually attracted to.

B seems like a very easy choice here, but what I'd like to know is what I get for going with choice A?
People throw out terms like "easy out" and "counter-productive" when referring to choice B, but how is that so? What special reward do I get for foregoing choice B, save for a less attractive girl and more time spent pursuing her? My goal here is simply to get some action, so why not select the option that gets me the best action? Why make it harder than it needs to be?

I just don't get it. Opponents of this type of suggestion constantly state that it is "too easy", and yet I never hear a good reason why it should be harder.

Thats sorta my rationale. But it will cost more $$ if you want a 9/10 looks escort in the USA. So don't do it too often. But u will see the difference next time you go out to hunt.

Ok you win. Go fuck hookers. It's more legit tail for me.

@Athlone- Have you ever banged a hooker? Feel free to expand on your infinite knowledge of the subject. This old Marine would love to learn.

Post: #22

(10-12-2011 06:25 PM)Gmac Wrote:  In this case, the result (true, improved confidence) is the only thing that matters. Again, if it works for you, why are you here asking us approval? Do you.

Yeah, I'm realizing that I'm too cranky to post on the main section of this forum.

Obviously guys aren't DOING anything, but instead ask endless stupid question after another.

It's fine to talk game, but ultimately, it involves going out, making approaches, getting your ass kicked, getting bangs, learning what works. In sum, action rather than talk.

I'll bet the guy who started this thread hasn't even made 10 approaches all month. But he's probably started 10 different threads.

Oh well.

Post: #23

(10-12-2011 07:45 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Ok you win. Go fuck hookers. It's more legit tail for me.

@Athlone- Have you ever banged a hooker? Feel free to expand on your infinite knowledge of the subject. This old Marine would love to learn.

No. Then again, I'm 20.

Don't see how that addresses my prior post, though.

Post: #24

(10-12-2011 07:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Yeah, I'm realizing that I'm too cranky to post on the main section of this forum.

Obviously guys aren't DOING anything, but instead ask endless stupid question after another.

It's fine to talk game, but ultimately, it involves going out, making approaches, getting your ass kicked, getting bangs, learning what works. In sum, action rather than talk.

I'll bet the guy who started this thread hasn't even made 10 approaches all month. But he's probably started 10 different threads.

Oh well.

Then he calls it hating and tries to qualify the bitch he paid to get his dick wet.

Fuck outta here.

Post: #25

(10-12-2011 06:51 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  I just don't get it. Opponents of this type of suggestion constantly state that it is "too easy", and yet I never hear a good reason why it should be harder.

Most of the guys I know that go to escorts are older(50s) and married. They go because they don't have the time or the logistics to chase young women. I am not against prostitution, I think it has it's place in society. If a 70 year old guy has a yearning for a 20 yeard old tight body, then calling up an escort is a perfectly valid way to satisfy his desires.

BUT, if you are young, single and not hideous, I really see no reason why you need to use an escort. No matter what you say, it is escapism. It is an easy way out. By going to an escort you are not actually curing the disease, you are just masking the symptoms. And it is very to get sucked into it and make it a habit. After all, if you have been to an escort once to cure your dry spell, why not do it again? And again? No need to approach, no need to suffer rejections, flakes or public humiliation. Using an escort is just SO EASY. That's what makes it dangerous. The hungrier you are for pussy, the more effort you will make for it.