Post: #1

I saw this on the news tonight, a Jewish family staged a fake attack on their restaurant most likely to receive money from a gofundme campaign. Apparently they are having money problems.

This paragraph is from CBC.
Oxana and Maxim acknowledge that their restaurant has struggled and they had attempted to sell it. In order to pay off loans used to start the business, the family also put their home in the Rural Municipality of Petersfield up for sale. They deny this could have motivated them to stage the attack and vandalism, stating that insurance for the damage would not pay very much.



https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/three-char...-1.4393233

WINNIPEG -- What looked like an anti-Semitic attack at a Winnipeg cafe that drew public concern and political condemnation was not a hate crime but an alleged sham staged by owners of the business, police said Wednesday.

Officers responded last Thursday to a report that a woman who worked at the BerMax Caffe and Bistro was assaulted and that the business was vandalized and spray-painted with hate-related graffiti. It was the night before Passover.

After a lengthy investigation involving 25 officers and 1,000 hours of investigative work, police said they charged the three owners of the cafe -- including the woman who was reportedly assaulted -- with public mischief.

"Last night, investigators formed the belief and came to the conclusion that the incident ... was staged," Winnipeg police Chief Danny Smyth said.

"I am hugely disappointed and frankly angry that this family has used hate and racism in such a disingenuous way. In doing so, they have allowed cynicism to creep into this discussion -- cynicism that trivializes genuine victims of hate."

Alexander Berent, 56, Oxana Berent, 48, and Maxim Berent, 29 were released on a promise to appear in court next month. They have not entered pleas.

Police were already investigating earlier reports of anti-Semitic graffiti at the cafe dating back to December. As news of last week's apparent attack spread, a GoFundMe page was set up to help the owners. Politicians also condemned the crime.

"Winnipeggers stand (with) members of our Jewish community today & always, as we combat racism & antisemitism, & defend human rights together," Mayor Brian Bowman wrote on Twitter at the time.

"We (should) all condemn last night's act of hate at BerMax Caffe & Bistro & support Γåòwpgpolice its hate crime investigation."

Be'TLV, a non-profit organization that led the fundraising effort, said Wednesday it will refund all money it had raised -- about $900.

"Everyone at Be'TLV is shocked," read a statement on the group's Facebook page.

"We will co-operate with the police. All donors will be refunded."

The Jewish Federation of Winnipeg said it was "deeply disturbed" to learn of the police allegations.

"Filing false complaints of criminal acts of anti-Semitism are not only illegal, they undermine the important work necessary to counter anti-Semitism and hate in all forms," the group wrote in a statement to media.

"We reiterate our appreciation of the work of the Winnipeg Police Service and their continued support for the Jewish community."

Attempts to reach the cafe's owners via phone and email were unsuccessful Wednesday.

Smyth said he could not discuss a possible motive for what happened. He also said police will not change their approach to investigating future cases.

"We took it ... in good faith and we will continue to do so. We have a strong relationship with many of the communities in our city.

The owners are denying it in a video here
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/...-1.5110195

Post: #2

They can't help themselves.
It's only a matter of time.

I love this video. The Jew looks like a child who's been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.






Look at his sign. The "White men against" is permanent and the topic of the day is stuck on the bottom - in this case Trump.

Post: #3

Anyone surprised?

The police get accustomed to a range of obvious hoaxes concerning “attacks” against religious, racial, sexual or ethnic minorities.

Most miscreants are never prosecuted and even the ones that are receive a quarter of a slap on the wrist.

Take Anna Ayers, for example, the clearly low self-esteem, obese Ohio student who sent death threats to herself and claimed she was a victim of life-threatening homophobia. She received a 30-day suspended sentence.



Charges or not, these restaurant proprietors know there’s actually little risk in a hoax. There will always be a market for convicted hoaxers to successfully argue to many that they were tried and sentenced by the oppressive, racist Gentile white man’s patriarchy.

Post: #4

Title is misleading, Smollet is not involved.

Also, are we going to clog up the forum with cherry-picked stories about Some Jew Doing Something Bad Somewhere, a la Stormfront?

Post: #5

(04-25-2019 04:14 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  Title is misleading, Smollet is not involved.

Also, are we going to clog up the forum with cherry-picked stories about Some Jew Doing Something Bad Somewhere, a la Stormfront?

Yes, that is their goal. Nazis and conspiracy-theory nutters share one characteristic: they are desperate to "share" their crazyness with others. So they come squirming into any forum that will endure their presence -- like RVF in this case -- and then try to take over.

Post: #6

Makes you wonder how many "hate crimes" have been hoaxed over the years and we just never knew.

Post: #7

(04-25-2019 12:00 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 04:14 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  Title is misleading, Smollet is not involved.

Also, are we going to clog up the forum with cherry-picked stories about Some Jew Doing Something Bad Somewhere, a la Stormfront?

Yes, that is their goal. Nazis and conspiracy-theory nutters share one characteristic: they are desperate to "share" their crazyness with others. So they come squirming into any forum that will endure their presence -- like RVF in this case -- and then try to take over.

Why are you talking about conspiracy theories? A conspiracy theory is something stupid like saying Sandy Hook was a staged attack. This family is being charged.

The news I posted, Jussie Smollet, things like mattress girl, Judge Kavanaugh are all hoaxes that at one point the majority of people or news organizations seemed to at least initially believe. It just needs to be pointed out that a significant amount of these "hate crimes" are fake.

It isn't like this is some cherry picked article from years ago, this is Canadian national news from yesterday.

I could really care less about jews either way and my post history would reflect that. I don't recall ever posting in the JQ thread or Holocaust thread.

Post: #8

I enjoyed and preferred the initial thread title even though I once met a Jew (I think).

Post: #9

Are they politically connected? These kind of hoaxes are usually done to further a political cause (ie raising awareness, fighting "antisemitism", painting the right or straight white men as violent and hateful) and not just for money or attention.
When the mainstream media plays along, that's when you know it's all a calculated effort to further a political goal.

I usually yawn at the "look what those rascally Jews did today" crowd, but:

a. Fuck these guys, they make us all look bad and they (leftist reform Jews) tend to pull the same shit in Israel to make Israeli nationalists look like oppressive religious nuts (as well as subvert Judaism itself with LGBT and feminist BS).
Even in the friendliest countries to Jews some people always have to stir some shit up.

b. OP is a highly repped member and has an impressive posting history, so I don't see it as trying to push a Stormsront agenda or anything like that. Just sharing a story that is meaningful to him.

While I don't like the finger pointing at "Jews" as sharing a collective blame whenever some shithead does something like this, it's still legit to bring it up.

Post: #10

Except I could bet "Alexander, Oxana and Maxim" are not even Jewish. Probably regular scheming Ukrainians who faked jewishness in order to obtain Immigrant Visas for Canada, years ago.

So it'd be fake-Jews faking some fake-attack on their (fake, as it's loaned?) property. Fake!, er, I mean, sad!

Post: #11

As long as there is media attention and advantages for being a victim of racism, sexism or what-ever hate crime, we will be getting a lot of fakes.

There is always the comment that hate crimes are on the rise, but hate crimes are being reported that were not even considered crimes in the past. The whole thing is a sham.

Post: #12

I’ll be surprised when one of these turns out to be real.

Post: #13

(04-25-2019 04:14 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  Title is misleading, Smollet is not involved.

Also, are we going to clog up the forum with cherry-picked stories about Some Jew Doing Something Bad Somewhere, a la Stormfront?

Good point. Maybe someone should consolidate them in a Phony Hate Crime thread, a la the Female Teacher Caught Having Sex With Male Student" thread.

Post: #14

(04-25-2019 12:08 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  Makes you wonder how many "hate crimes" have been hoaxed over the years and we just never knew.

This one was crazy...I must admit I smelt a rat

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44641427

A court in Israel has convicted a 19-year-old American-Israeli man of making hundreds of threats to bomb or attack Jewish schools and community centres.

Michael Ron David Kadar was also found guilty of extortion, money laundering and assaulting a police officer.

He used the internet to make hoax telephone calls to the US, UK, Canada, New Zealand and Australia.

The threats forced evacuations and prompted concern among Jewish leaders about a resurgence of anti-Semitism.

Several airlines also received threatening calls, which led to planes carrying out emergency landings.

Kadar was arrested in the Israeli town of Ashkelon in March 2017 following a joint investigation by the Israeli and US authorities, including the FBI.

He was accused of making more than 2,000 bomb threats to Jewish institutions, airlines, airports, police stations, hospitals and sporting events.


Interesting to note all the anti-Semitism on the rise articles yet I didn't see one retracted after the truth came out...

Post: #15

Quote:Makes you wonder how many "hate crimes" have been hoaxed over the years and we just never knew.

Not really a hoax but apparently the 1990s "Matthew Shepard was killed because he was gay" "hate crime" which took the homosexual media agenda to new levels and eventually ushered in gay marriage didn't exactly go down like it was described at the time.

I've heard it was a drug deal gone bad with Shepard's image heavily sanitized by media to paint a perfect portrait of an oppressed innocent homosexual killed by homophobic bigots.

The truth is more complicated.

Post: #16

(04-25-2019 12:51 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Except I could bet "Alexander, Oxana and Maxim" are not even Jewish. Probably regular scheming Ukrainians who faked jewishness in order to obtain Immigrant Visas for Canada, years ago.

So it'd be fake-Jews faking some fake-attack on their (fake, as it's loaned?) property. Fake!, er, I mean, sad!

They look pretty Khazarian, and it's a kosher restaurant, in a city with a very small Jewish population...


Adam Green made a pretty good compilation of antisemitic hoaxes tonight:





In France there were many recent incidents as well, two major ones where a rabbi from a prominent Parisian synagogue stabbed himself and claimed it was done by a masked intruder who shouted alahu akbar while knifing him. That rabbi was also the head of a local NGO whose stated mission was outreach to the muslim community...

Another event, the infamous "RER D" train affair, which also grabbed all national headlines, with the top political brass all freaking out like it's 1943 all over again, involved a young mother and her baby saying that a bunch of Arabs and Africans went all 1488 on her, beating her up and stabbing her, drawing swastikas all over her naked chest. She made it all up, going as far as to stab herself in the chest and knock herself with a hammer...



https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/L...31321.html

The common thread in all those homemade false flag psyops is that every time the media and political leaders go all in into shoah mode, and the great majority of them don't get exposed.

Post: #17

^ Actually Winnipeg has a fairly large Jewish population.

Look at their upcoming schedule at this place

Events
Sun., Apr. 28
Drag Brunch
Wed., May 8
Just Let Me Slytherin
Sat., May 11
Gay Night at Bermax

Post: #18

Have they learnt nothing from the boy who cried wolf? When it really happens no one will care.

Post: #19

Like was said, Winnipeg has a very large Jewish population. I know several people from there (including two who are Jewish), and have been there a few times. I will leave it at that....

As for hate crimes being hoaxes historically, and the media not talking about it. Yes, it is the case that most hate crimes that the media has run away with have turned out to be hoaxes. When they are debunked as such, if the media even reports it at all, they do it in a small side bar at the back of the A section where 95% of people will never read it or otherwise acknowledge it.

Some recent Canadian examples are the hijab-cutting incident(s), where Justin Trudeau was already tweeting about how we have to do more to stop Islamophobia, even before the story had time to be verified.

Ann Coulter wrote a really good book called "Mugged: Racial Demagoguery from the Seventies to Obama". It had entire chapter about hate-crimes that the US media turned into front-page, head-line dominating news stories (resulting in campus riots, speeches from Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc.) that all turned out to be hoaxes.

Again, this sort of this happens all the time, it's just that the media doesn't want it discussed since it doesn't fit their .. ahem... agenda.

Post: #20

(04-25-2019 12:54 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  As long as there is media attention and advantages for being a victim of racism, sexism or what-ever hate crime, we will be getting a lot of fakes.

There is always the comment that hate crimes are on the rise, but hate crimes are being reported that were not even considered crimes in the past. The whole thing is a sham.

Another direction to go is heavily punishing the hoaxers with a penalty at least similar to the crimes they are accusing. Works even more for false rape accusations, since it's a more serious crime
You know, increasing the risks and disincentives for phony weasels and liars... a foreign concept in a liberal society but it's worth looking it up

Analogy: there is more money than ever to be made dealing drugs in the Philippines, but they are actually winning the war on the drugs with the steps they have taken

Post: #21

(04-25-2019 12:00 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 04:14 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  Title is misleading, Smollet is not involved.

Also, are we going to clog up the forum with cherry-picked stories about Some Jew Doing Something Bad Somewhere, a la Stormfront?

Yes, that is their goal. Nazis and conspiracy-theory nutters share one characteristic: they are desperate to "share" their crazyness with others. So they come squirming into any forum that will endure their presence -- like RVF in this case -- and then try to take over.

Take over?

Have you seen Roosh's Twitter recently?

Post: #22

(04-25-2019 12:51 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Except I could bet "Alexander, Oxana and Maxim" are not even Jewish. Probably regular scheming Ukrainians who faked jewishness in order to obtain Immigrant Visas for Canada, years ago.

So it'd be fake-Jews faking some fake-attack on their (fake, as it's loaned?) property. Fake!, er, I mean, sad!

Ya. Ukrainians have been "scheming" this shit from way back.

Really, a stupid comment.

Post: #23

(04-26-2019 12:11 PM)MaxMillion Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 12:51 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Except I could bet "Alexander, Oxana and Maxim" are not even Jewish. Probably regular scheming Ukrainians who faked jewishness in order to obtain Immigrant Visas for Canada, years ago.

So it'd be fake-Jews faking some fake-attack on their (fake, as it's loaned?) property. Fake!, er, I mean, sad!

Ya. Ukrainians have been "scheming" this shit from way back.

Really, a stupid comment.

Faking jewishness is, or used to be, quite common in FSU, boludo. Like, maybe one-third of the EE "jews" who settled in (or transited through) Israel some years after the fall of the Soviet Union, were fake Jews. Even involved surgery, occasionally.

There is nothing an Ukrainian family would not do in order to get visas for Canada, by the way. Faking jewishness, learning French, claiming rape or duress, or whatever might help.

By the way, I am not a specialist, but would someone please explain how the names, Alexander, Oxana and Maxim, are Jewish? Not exactly David, Sarah and Moshe, are they?

Post: #24

(04-25-2019 12:51 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Except I could bet "Alexander, Oxana and Maxim" are not even Jewish. Probably regular scheming Ukrainians who faked jewishness in order to obtain Immigrant Visas for Canada, years ago.

So it'd be fake-Jews faking some fake-attack on their (fake, as it's loaned?) property. Fake!, er, I mean, sad!

Why would a Ukrainian have to fake being Jewish to get an immigrant visa to Canada?

Why would someone want to fake being the most persecuted group of people in the world? Why do the most persecuted group of people in the world have to do fake hate crimes?

Why did they choose to be Jewish and do a fake hate crime? Why didn't they do a fake hate crime against "poor Ukrainian immigrants"?

Post: #25

(04-27-2019 03:19 AM)VNvet Wrote:  Why would someone want to fake being the most persecuted group of people in the world?

The answer to that is easy and logical: to elicit pity and sympathy, as a persecuted group.

In any case, I have learned something: seems that Jewish families have names like Alexander (Greek name, the Defender), Oxana (Ksenia, Greek name, the Hospitable) and Maxim (Latin name, the Greatest). Next thing you know it'll be Peter, Maria and Jesus?


^Jewish hero?