Post: #26

(08-28-2015 10:11 PM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  So some girl randomly called me ugly and ruined my night. Great.

Hey man, don't let that get you down. All girls have different types, whether that be height, body type, race, whatever. There will always be another girl that would love to be with you because you match her interests. Stay positive.

We have all been rejected. It's part of the game. It sucks if a girl tries to humiliate you like that. The best thing to do if that happens is to sit there and laugh in her face. It will show her and others around you that you don't give a fuck and that she was acting like a stuck up dick.

Post: #27

Thanks for that guys. I'm pretty much over it and looking back it was a good night out.

I've found a new style for my hair which looks really really good and have bought some new clothes. Noticed more girls looking at me on Friday when I was dressed fly. I haven't done any real approaches just asked a few girls for directions and to borrow their lighters.

As I was walking out of the train station to my car I had a girl walking close to me and kept glancing. As I unlock my door of my car and get (Mercedes A Class 2015) she was just staring at my face walking past and I was holding eye contact to. I felt pretty good after that. Obviously this is very very slow progress and I really do appreciate the support. When my jaw is fixed in a years time, when I get on testosterone replacement therapy and my beard is growing quite well now, I'll look much better which will ease my insecurities. The future is positive.

Post: #28

If you have a good fitted button down shirt, a beard, and a good hairstyle, all you need is a pair of wayfarers on and you should be getting a ton of looks daily. You sound like you're very self aware of your appearance and women have taken notice of it with how you adjusted.

Keep it up, man. Women enjoy flaws in your character and appearance (i.e. your jaw). These things can define your character. One person, who I have a ton of respect for, is Connor McGregor.

That guy is so arrogant and rocks everything regarding his appearance. Take that attitude out to bars.

Post: #29

Hey guys. Just booked a trip to Amsterdam on the 5th November to watch a football match. It's the first time I'll be going somewhere alone. Do you think it'd be weird?

Also anyone have any info on Amsterdam?

Post: #30

I prefer traveling alone. It's not weird, it's fulfilling. Check the travel forum. There are a ton of datasheets on Europe and Amsterdam.

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Post: #31

Sorry I meant as in loserish to travel alone to watch a football match?

Post: #32

(09-13-2015 05:52 PM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  Sorry I meant as in loserish to travel alone to watch a football match?

It's only "loserish" if you believe it is. Nothing wrong with going anywhere for any reason. Do what you want in life (within reason), don't ever be bothered by how you might be perceived.

Post: #33

Not at all, you will have a lot of fun getting to know people at the match as well as when you venture out to bars. You will not have to worry about anyone except yourself. That gives you unlimited freedom.

Talk to the people next to you at the match. Have fun with it. Maybe if some of the locals think you're a decent guy, they'll invite you out with them. You have so many opportunities to get into cool shit. Embrace it.

Post: #34

I took some advice giovonny posted a few months ago on the approach thread, and it makes a huge difference in who leads the conversation.
"Don't talk too much, don't talk too fast."
As far as interacting with women, take it as far as you can - every time.

Post: #35

Well its been an interesting period since my last post. I've been dressing better with nice fitted clothes and styling my hair better, new shoes etc. I've been getting way more looks from chicks.

I've done a couple of approaches but still not significant to log. E.g. Yesterday I go out to smoke from my office, a girl is standing outside as well, I ask to borrow her lighter (even though I have one) I say that's a cool ass lighter. We start chatting about mundane shit and she goes inside.

Today on the train was interesting though. I got on and the train was packed due to delays. 2 girls on the train right next to me start saying "stop pushing as its full and we can't move anymore" to the people outside. They were damn attractive and looked wealthy (easily 8.5). I chuckled a bit and then the next stop a fat woman trying to get on starts shouting "move down". The 2 girls start saying the same thing as before. I say "you tell em" she starts laughing etc. They continue their conversation but I'm kind of intimidated at this point as one of the girls was like 6 ft and way taller than me. The other one keeps looking at me but my anxiety got the better of me and all I did was fucking smile. God damn it man.

Atleast things are looking better than before. My trip to Amsterdam is still going ahead so I'm really looking forward to that! I appreciate all the comments in this thread , you guys are the best!

Post: #36

Intimidated by a girl because she is taller than you??? Da Fuq did I just read. Grab your balls and man up. I've games chicks who are taller than me all the time especially in Hollywood where most of those bitches are wearing high heels. Competition is fierce here so either you man up and become a Savage and approach with confidence, or you keep retreating back to these little small steps foward but 2 steps back. You have plenty of tools available to help you succeed. You need to change your mindset about women and think highly of yourself. Whenever I see tall girls especially those foreign amazon beauties I always ask them how tall they are to start off th e conversation. A lot of talk girls are actually insecure about their height so this disarms them and makes the mood light. I then stand next to them and make small talk to hook them into the conversation such as guessing what their dad or brother's height might be. Then you must quicky convert the conversation in a way that shows that you find her attractive. I see that in your post you say that you are on a train. You could've asked how high can she reach her hand to the ceiling or some bs like that. I personally ask girls to open their arms wide to check their wingspan and then hold my hands onto theirs and go for a hug. And then escalate some more after that. But if you think she might be extra slutty you can ask her to touch her toes. I tell that to tall girls all the time as it's a nice way to see how flexible they are and to get a preview of how nice her ass is going to look when your fucking her doggy style. Confidence is the key. I hope you will continue to improve your approaching skills and learn that rejection is not a thing to be afraid of. It's part of the process and eventually with enough dedication, hardwork, and experience you will become natural at talking to all types of girls no matter how intimidating they may seem.

Post: #37

(09-13-2015 05:52 PM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  Sorry I meant as in loserish to travel alone to watch a football match?

I actually used to do a few away games alone. It's good fun. I'm sure they'll be a few bars not too far from the ground or in central where lots of the other away fans will go for pre game drinking (then take the train to Ajax arena as that's where I imagine you'd be going). Maybe check the fans forum of your club to see.

Amsterdam has plenty of nightlife options so shouldn't be hard to find somewhere good to head after the game.

Post: #38

Intimidated was probably the wrong word. It was a packed train with a hot as fuck chick smiling at me with her Amazonian friend. I kept thinking in my head "don't say anything stupid". By the time I was ready to say anything they got off. I need to seize opportunities as they come and have fun with situations like that.

As for Amsterdam, I'm there for 2 days and I'm really excited. Will also be my first footy match. And yeah I'm gonna check out the forums etc. shouldn't be too hard as there is a large Turkish contingent in Amsterdam from what I've heard.

And if that fails there's always red light haha

Post: #39

Right. Turkey just qualified for the European championship football in France 2016 summer. Definitely going with my buddies. Going to book it next month.

Imo there will be hot chicks everywhere I can't wait

Post: #40

Went out on Friday to a bar after work for some leaving drinks (all paid for by the company). I wasn't feeling my best as my hair was messed up and I was dressed kinda shitty. The only note worthy thing that happened was when I was outside smoking. Two 7's come out and start talking to me. I'm pretty drunk at this point saying stupid shit. I made a joke about them being detectives for trying so hard to guess my age. As they are going back in side I say "Seeya later detective Marie and detective I don't know your name". As she is walking off she says "yeah well you'll never know it".

Wtf is wrong with these chicks. Why approach me and then act all rude at the end of a pleasant conversation? I really hate this city. Everybody has a giant stick up their ass.

Another chick approached me but she was a 3/10. 10 seconds into the conversation she's talking about how her boyfriend just bought her a house "I say well he's a better man than me". I'm thinking she's making this up because no man buys a fat shit a house after 7 months of dating or I'm underestimating just how thirsty london is.

I need to travel.

On the positive side, I've started working out at home, push ups pull ups and chin ups. I'm surprisingly not as weak as I thought I was. I can do 10 reps of pull ups which isn't bad at all considering my sedentary lifestyle.

Post: #41

I've also realised that I am a fucking man. I'm going to do some approaches tomorrow, doesn't matter how many I'm just going to do as many as I can.

I recommend any newbies to get in their car and drive somewhere, and have "iggy pop" - the passenger playing. What an epiphany. I was thinking about all the dumb shit that used to care about and that I am a fucking man who is going to get shit done. As I was parked up, my window down, smoking a cigarette, with the song playing, I see a young chick walking with her ugly friend. They looked underraged but were smoking cigarettes. I stared at them without smiling or anything and they kept looking back at me in my fly car and then they tried to get my attention by doing a "thumbsup" I just carried on starting. It was a weird situation but I feel I've finally realised that I'm going to grab life by the balls.

Sorry if that sounds like gibberish but I'm pretty high right now.

I've also been talking a cleaner chick from Poland in my office. She's about a 5 I guess dressed in a cleaners uniform but pleasant and doesn't have a good grasp of the English language l. I'm wonderin how I should proceed? I think I'm gonna ask how much of London she has seen? I'll then give me your number and I'll show you some cool places? It seems like no one else in the office speaks to her at all and she has just moved here. I'm sensing a potential first bang for me if I play my cards right.

Post: #42

So just got back from my trip to Amsterdam and I did my first ever real approach.

Day 1:

I arrived in Amsterdam around 1PM and went to Dam square to collect my ticket for the game. I was feeling a little anxiety as its all new to me. I got my ticket after a while of searching for the guy admits chaos as fans in the area were fighting the police. Crazy! I then went to a coffee shop to smoke some weed. Then i went to the game which was fantastic. I've never seen a football game before and the atmosphere was crazy! Definitely want to go again. After the game I was offered drugs by 2 guys, I said no, then i heard them speaking Turkish so we started talking. Ended up spending a few hours with them smoking weed, had a few drinks, played pool and basically shot the shit. After that I was knackered and went back to the hotel.

Day 2:

Woke up at like 4 in the afternoon ffs which limited my time. Ate some food, smoked some weed then headed to the centre. Tried asking some chicks for directions but they basically said they don't know and walked off without stopping, this happened like 3 times. I then went to a coffee shop called popeyes.

The approach:

As I'm rolling my weed a cute Italian girl ask if the seats taken, I say no be my guest. I then open her by saying "is it always crowded in here? She says she has no idea. We then talked for like 2 hours about random shit with a few laughs her and there. She mentions shes visiting her boyfiend. Eventually run out of things to say so I start gathering my things and I say "I'm going to get a drink, wanna come?" She politely declines saying she's gonna stay in the coffeshop, I say okay it was nice to meet you and shook her hand, she places her other hand on the back of my hand also.

I put it down to my weirdness. I get anxiety for some reason and she probably noticed it as well. Oh well. That was approach number 1 finally.

Smoked some more weed then went home.

Not a bad first trip at all.

Post: #43

Well I'm just about tired of everything. I feel like I don't fit in this world. I would have offed myself by now if it wasn't for feeling bad for my brother and dog. I truly believe some of us are not suited for this world.

Post: #44

(02-22-2016 11:27 AM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  Well I'm just about tired of everything. I feel like I don't fit in this world. I would have offed myself by now if it wasn't for feeling bad for my brother and dog. I truly believe some of us are not suited for this world.

If we didn't fit in this world, humans would be long gone, we all have SURVIVED, thus far.

If you're alive, breathing, have phone, a PC, and hands to type with.

You should be thankful, others have it WAY WORSE than you.

We all get rejected, have our hearts broken, learn bitter truths in this life.

Just a few posts ago things were on the up and up.

Chin up, carry on.

There's alot more you can do with your life.

Take a break, focus on work, focus on school, shit that will make you successful.

Post: #45

" I get anxiety for some reason"

This mad me chuckle.. Think it could be because you were smoking weed??


I've smoked pot daily for over a decade now and still get anxiety when I'm stoned around people. Even girls I had been living with for years sharing a lease, sometimes I would light up and be overcome with anxiety around them.

Maybe lay off the herb for a little bit. Don't be too hard on yourself pulling chicks isn't the end all of happiness just keep trucking everything will fall into place. Life is hard for everyone.

Post: #46

It's not just pulling chicks. I feel empty and alone. I fucking hate my life and there's not much I can do about it right now.

I live alone in a shitty house with my dog who I've been left to care for (which I don't mind). My garden is ruined (fences fallen down, crap everywhere). I work all day and can't even leave my back door open for my dog as she'll be in my neighbours garden or escape to the street. Can't afford the repairs at the moment. Tried to do it myself (bought new fences). I put them up and then we had a storm and they fell down and two of them snapped. Its like God is playing a prank on me.

Typical day for me:

Wake up 6:30.
Take my dog for a walk
Go to work at 7:30
Finish work at 6
Get home 7:30
Make dinner, take dog for a walk
Smoke some weed,
Sleep at 10.

I feel really really bad for my dog it's tearing me up inside.

Weekends I can't even motivate myself to do anything anymore. I've shut myself in, hardly talk to friends anymore. I just keep thinking wtf is the point in all of this.

Post: #47

Hi Bambinotforlong, I can imagine how you feel at the moment, i'm pretty much in the same situation, if not worse

I'm having zero result with chicks in the place where i live (italy, and italian chicks are very tough to crack) , I have a dog and love it, it gives me a reason to carry on and look to improve my situation

I'm planning to move abroad and get a job asap. I'll let my family take care of pet, gonna miss it for sure but i'll come back once in a while to see it again

I wish you all the luck of this world, stay strong

Post: #48

(02-23-2016 10:11 AM)BambiNotForLong Wrote:  It's not just pulling chicks. I feel empty and alone. I fucking hate my life and there's not much I can do about it right now.

I live alone in a shitty house with my dog who I've been left to care for (which I don't mind). My garden is ruined (fences fallen down, crap everywhere). I work all day and can't even leave my back door open for my dog as she'll be in my neighbours garden or escape to the street. Can't afford the repairs at the moment. Tried to do it myself (bought new fences). I put them up and then we had a storm and they fell down and two of them snapped. Its like God is playing a prank on me.

I was empty alone and depressed at one point, I didn't find god, I found game.

You have a house, and a dog. Another first world problem.

You can fix a fence, you can toss the crap that's everywhere. That's the easy part.

You can regrow a garden.

Gard/Fence/Getting rid of shit, make that a short goal to go after.

God knocks it down, say fuck you, and put it back up.

Just like riding a horse.

If you don't know how to fix that, google it, I learned how to fix and build shit from there, the internet is a wonderful tool.

Quote:Typical day for me:

Wake up 6:30.
Take my dog for a walk
Go to work at 7:30
Finish work at 6
Get home 7:30
Make dinner, take dog for a walk
Smoke some weed,
Sleep at 10.

I feel really really bad for my dog it's tearing me up inside.

Weekends I can't even motivate myself to do anything anymore. I've shut myself in, hardly talk to friends anymore. I just keep thinking wtf is the point in all of this.

There's so much you can do, go lift, start reading, watching informative videos, walk around in public, do warm up approaches with anyone to get the blood flowing again.

It's all out there - you need to get that passion in your soul again.[/quote]

Post: #49

SMH because you are actually privileged - you just don't realize it. Just from your last few posts:

You have friends. You opt not to talk to them, but they're there.

You have a dog that loves you and can help you get fit and approach girls.

You have your own house - share a house with someone who is an asshole and you'll see how good you have it. Or talk to some bums who live in the street and exposed to the weather and judgement of society.

You have play money to spend on weed and time to smoke it and chill.

You sleep more than 8h/day.

You have a job that allows you to have a roof and put food on the table. Maybe it sucks, but you know what sucks more? To be homeless and hungry.

What you need is to push yourself to get out of this mental inertia. So much has been written about this. You're stuck, I get it, been there. But you are right - you are alone. No one gives a shit. If YOU don't act, no one will for you. Take action TODAY. Mental toughness is not a big deal - be stoic, most decisions can be pretty binary.

For example, "Should I approach this girl?". It's easy to rationalize it, overthink it. But it comes down to yes or no. Make one choice that is hard, act on it. Even if you lose, you win for trying and becoming better. And then onto the next. And the next, and so on. Tackle your problems and stop avoiding them.

From the top of my head:
- Clean your house. NOW. Remove all clutter and wipe every surface. Put your sweat into it. Download some awesome podcasts and listen to them while you do this. Nothing demotivates a person than living in a disgusting environment.

- Take inventory of everything you own in the house. Sell any shit you don't use or haven't used in the last year. This will help declutter and make money for repairs.

- Stop smoking weed. NOW. It's a great drug (I enjoy it on occasion) but it does not fit your lifestyle at the moment. This will help you save money, have more energy and be more motivated. Smoke a reefer or two on the weekend or when you have a girl over - see it as a reward, not a habit.

- You wake up at 6:30? Start waking up at 5am to read a book, write or exercise. Pick one, do it 1h/day. Search the forum for kettlebell or bodyweight workouts. If you find you have some change to spare, join a gym where you can take a group class like BJJ - stick to it and it will change your life and provide you with good relationships.

- For motivation, create an Instagram account and follow bad ass people like Jocko Willink.

- Find an association to volunteer (working with orphans, mentoring kids, aiding homeless) and go there THIS WEEKEND. This should give you some insight into what shitty conditions of living are and how you should be thankful for what you have.

- Do the Wim Hof breathing exercises to calm down and renew your spirits. (Technique starts at 03:03).

- Get a diary or write on your phone everyday before you sleep 3 things that you are thankful for or that you enjoyed doing that day. "Had a great run with my dog", "cooked an awesome chili", etc.

- Look up Giovonny's posts. If you are bored with your life, change it.

"I am not what happened to me. I am what I choose to become."



Now move.

Post: #50

I agree but I'd like to say this isn't a "check your privilege" kind of thing.

It's a more of, be thankful, looks what's around you, and take advantage kind of thing.