Post: #651

US election 2020: Joe Biden launches presidential bid, joining crowded field

Quote:Former US Vice-President Joe Biden has declared a presidential bid, putting an end to months of speculation.

In a video announcement, Mr Biden argued that the "core values of the nation... our very democracy, everything that has made America America, is at stake".

The 76-year-old, who has already run twice for the presidency, enters a crowded race for the 2020 Democratic nomination.

He is up against 19 other hopefuls.

They include Senators Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders.

What else did he say?

Mr Biden, who served as President Barack Obama's deputy for two terms, recalled President Donald Trump's much-criticised remark that there were "very fine people on both sides" of the deadly Charlottesville white nationalist riots of 2017.

"With those words, the president of the United States assigned a moral equivalence between those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it," Mr Biden said.

"I believe history will look back on four years of this president and all he embraces as an aberrant moment in time. But if we give Donald Trump eight years in the White House, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation, who we are, and I cannot stand by and watch that happen."

What reaction has there been?

A spokesman for Mr Obama said selecting Mr Biden as his running mate "was one of the best decisions he ever made" and the two had "forged a special bond", but the former president notably stopped short of an endorsement.

A source familiar with Mr Obama's thinking said the former president believed "a robust primary in 2007 and 2008 not only made him a better general election candidate, but a better president, too".

Former US Vice-President Joe Biden has declared a presidential bid, putting an end to months of speculation.

In a video announcement, Mr Biden argued that the "core values of the nation... our very democracy, everything that has made America America, is at stake".

The 76-year-old, who has already run twice for the presidency, enters a crowded race for the 2020 Democratic nomination.

He is up against 19 other hopefuls.

They include Senators Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders.
What else did he say?

Mr Biden, who served as President Barack Obama's deputy for two terms, recalled President Donald Trump's much-criticised remark that there were "very fine people on both sides" of the deadly Charlottesville white nationalist riots of 2017.

"With those words, the president of the United States assigned a moral equivalence between those spreading hate and those with the courage to stand against it," Mr Biden said.

"I believe history will look back on four years of this president and all he embraces as an aberrant moment in time. But if we give Donald Trump eight years in the White House, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation, who we are, and I cannot stand by and watch that happen."
What reaction has there been?

A spokesman for Mr Obama said selecting Mr Biden as his running mate "was one of the best decisions he ever made" and the two had "forged a special bond", but the former president notably stopped short of an endorsement.

A source familiar with Mr Obama's thinking said the former president believed "a robust primary in 2007 and 2008 not only made him a better general election candidate, but a better president, too".



Mr Biden is also betting on having the strongest appeal of the Democratic candidates across America's Midwest, where many low-income voters have abandoned the party in recent years in favour of Mr Trump.

But the former vice-president has been forced to address claims he inappropriately invaded the personal space of women.

He apologised, saying: "The boundaries of protecting personal space have been reset. I understand it and I'll be much more mindful."

Post: #652

At this point the nomination is Biden's to lose, he's got the Dem establishment block down, as well as the middle ground of Dem Trump haters, as he's perceived as having the best shot at unseating DT. the only thing that can derail him is an October surprise with a bunch of molested women or children coming forward. He's old but so are his main opponents, Sanders and Trump, he doesn't look any older than them.

Trump's support is more shaky now, his margin was razor thin in many midwestern states, and that was running against the Hildabeast.

Post: #653

Trump has already signaled that he's taking any accusations of sexual impropriety off the table.

"Gropin' Joe" was a pre-made killshot but Trump has opted for "Sleepy Joe" which is recycled trash.

Looks like someone tapped him on the shoulder and told him to cool it with anything that might lead the public back down the pedogate path.

Post: #654

That's an uncharitable interpretation.

A charitable one: He knows he can crush Pedo Joe if he makes it past the primary. Maybe he's not so certain about Bernie, Yang, Gabbard, etc. Why knock him out when you WANT him to win the primary?

Post: #655

(04-26-2019 12:21 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Trump has already signaled that he's taking any accusations of sexual impropriety off the table.

"Gropin' Joe" was a pre-made killshot but Trump has opted for "Sleepy Joe" which is recycled trash.

Looks like someone tapped him on the shoulder and told him to cool it with anything that might lead the public back down the pedogate path.

That's kind of a stretch. I think maybe he doesn't want to shoot his wad this early in the election process. After all, he hadn't even announced his own candidacy four years ago, and at the time it seemed like he announced plenty early.

My observation is that Trump is not shy about slamming his opponents in ways that some find shocking.

Would it have been more effective to start using the nickname Lyin' Ted back in April 2015?

Post: #656

(04-26-2019 04:03 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

(04-26-2019 12:21 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Trump has already signaled that he's taking any accusations of sexual impropriety off the table.

"Gropin' Joe" was a pre-made killshot but Trump has opted for "Sleepy Joe" which is recycled trash.

Looks like someone tapped him on the shoulder and told him to cool it with anything that might lead the public back down the pedogate path.

That's kind of a stretch. I think maybe he doesn't want to shoot his wad this early in the election process. After all, he hadn't even announced his own candidacy four years ago, and at the time it seemed like he announced plenty early.

My observation is that Trump is not shy about slamming his opponents in ways that some find shocking.

Would it have been more effective to start using the nickname Lyin' Ted back in April 2015?

Biden is a fucking idiot. He always has been and always will be an idiot.
Trump needs to solidify his base. Prosecuting Hillary would do wonders. Prosecute Eric Holder. People want to see an ass kicking of epic proportions.

Post: #657

I was trying to attend a Trump rally last year in the Wilkes Barre/Scranton area: Biden territory. Couldn't get in cause the venue had reached full-capacity, despite it being a rainy day. I think there's still potential for PA to remain red this time around.

Post: #658

(04-26-2019 04:03 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

(04-26-2019 12:21 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Trump has already signaled that he's taking any accusations of sexual impropriety off the table.

"Gropin' Joe" was a pre-made killshot but Trump has opted for "Sleepy Joe" which is recycled trash.

Looks like someone tapped him on the shoulder and told him to cool it with anything that might lead the public back down the pedogate path.

That's kind of a stretch. I think maybe he doesn't want to shoot his wad this early in the election process. After all, he hadn't even announced his own candidacy four years ago, and at the time it seemed like he announced plenty early.

My observation is that Trump is not shy about slamming his opponents in ways that some find shocking.

Would it have been more effective to start using the nickname Lyin' Ted back in April 2015?

I guess we'll see.

Post: #659

I thought Kamala Harris was the frontrunner at first. Joe Biden is now scaring me.

Biden could have a real shot to win. He is the classic DC swamp guy. 78 years old too is real concerning.

The candidates that scare me the most are Biden, Sanders, and O'Rourke. I am convinced Trump beats Harris, but not convinced on the others.

Post: #660

Shitlibs go crying back to their cisgendered fucking white males to save them at the final hour.
Biden is his own worst enemy. He was only picked VP for Obama to placate white fears.
He is actually more gaffy than AOC if that was even possible. He also has a serious anger problem. Let the libs lean on this ticking time bomb, it will not do any good.

Post: #661

Trump will get reelected.

The problem is that he didn't win in 2016 solely to be reelected, but he had a mandate to do a few important things, which he has mostly... not done.

Therefore, him getting elected is perhaps just another four year moratorium on Democrat retardedness, replaced by Republican ineptitude of actually doing what they were elected for...

Post: #662

Lol, the Dems leading candidate.





Drunk? Dementia? Or just too old?

Post: #663

Andrew Anglin brought up a good point. He said any dem candidate can instantly gain voters by pointing out what a failure Trump has been on immigration. Or just talk about immigration.

Post: #664

Biden doesn't have any rape or molestation charges(at this point). Not that many Trump voters cared that there were about a dozen women crying rape against candidate Trump.

Why would Biden voters care if he sniffs girls heads? It's a little weird, but relative to everything we have heard in the past(Clinton, Trump, Roy Moore), it doesn't really sound that bad.

Post: #665

(04-29-2019 10:08 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Biden doesn't have any rape or molestation charges(at this point). Not that many Trump voters cared that there were about a dozen women crying rape against candidate Trump.

Why would Biden voters care if he sniffs girls heads? It's a little weird, but relative to everything we have heard in the past(Clinton, Trump, Roy Moore), it doesn't really sound that bad.

That picture of him with the little Chinese girl is damning.

Post: #666

The democrats will split within 10 years into two parties one that's business dems like Biden the rest will be progressives.

Post: #667

Clown World never fails to provide the laughs.

Post: #668

(05-03-2019 08:51 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Clown World never fails to provide the laughs.

Secession just keeps sounding better and better. I'm ready to throw in the towel and support any movement that let's us break away from this shit. Just build a big ass wall to keep the freaks on their side of the fence and the libtards can have their fags, trannies, illegals, career shrike feminists, etc. Just leave the rest of us normals the hell alone.

Post: #669

(05-03-2019 09:40 AM)Renzy Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 08:51 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Clown World never fails to provide the laughs.

Secession just keeps sounding better and better. I'm ready to throw in the towel and support any movement that let's us break away from this shit. Just build a big ass wall to keep the freaks on their side of the fence and the libtards can have their fags, trannies, illegals, career shrike feminists, etc. Just leave the rest of us normals the hell alone.

I really hope a political candidate advocating for "peaceful separation" arises within the next few years. The way things are going right now, we are heading towards violent separation or conflict of some sort.

You can't have half the population be pro open borders.

You can't have half the population pretend genders don't exist.

You can't have half the population be OK with disappearing political dissents from digital public squares.

You can't have half the population turning a blind eye towards Islam extremists.

You can't have half the population be passively or actively anti-white while it's still the majority demographic (for now).

Why?

Because the other half is gonna say one day: Enough is enough.

Or are they?

The harsh reality is that many people on the "other half" have been sitting on there ass doing fuck all while the house burns down. Trump, the cucks, 95% of Fox News, and the GOPe actually support, be it passively or actively, the libtard agenda. Many GOP "supporters" also support the libtard agenda.

Therefore, I'm not seeing any real groundswell support or foundation for any sort of secession movement happening. Certainly not a successful movement, that's for a damn sure.

I think the best you can hope for in the USA as of now, given the demographic trends, is picking the best democrat possible that minimizes the damage and provides you the most immediate benefit.

For me, Yang is the best guy. Wants to make healthcare affordable, give me a 1000 bucks/month, make social media public utilities (protecting political speech - very important), he wants to move towards proportional electoral voting (which will keep the GOP in the game longer; competition is always good), and he isn't openly anti-white or pro-identity politics. I'll have to give on immigration but that ship sailed away a long time ago.

As for Trump: I'm not a Jew so I don't see how he really helps me. If he exposes the corrupt rot within the DOJ/CIA/FBI via AG Barr, that will be significant accomplishment. But we'll see if any of the bad actors actually end up in prison or not.

Post: #670

(04-26-2019 12:21 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Trump has already signaled that he's taking any accusations of sexual impropriety off the table.

"Gropin' Joe" was a pre-made killshot but Trump has opted for "Sleepy Joe" which is recycled trash.

Looks like someone tapped him on the shoulder and told him to cool it with anything that might lead the public back down the pedogate path.

'Sleepy Joe' is better. It's kind of funny and more importantly sets up a filter and confirmation bias on literally everything Biden does in public view. Sleepy Joe can make a sleepy speech. Gropin Joe can't make a gropin' speech.

Let underlings exploit the molester stuff, and keep it ready for mud-slinging down the road.

Post: #671

It's pretty clear now, with nearly 6 months to go, the DNC and establishment is all in behind Biden, with Buttgig in the wings as plan B, in case Biden's record and demeanor proves to be a problem in the marketplace, it's a sort of AB testing.

They're pumping Buttgig ahead of options they don't fully approve of, or don't fully control, like Sanders, Warren, Beto, and more particularly Tulsi and Yang.

Post: #672

(05-03-2019 11:45 AM)911 Wrote:  It's pretty clear now, with nearly 6 months to go, the DNC and establishment is all in behind Biden, with Buttgig in the wings as plan B, in case Biden's record and demeanor proves to be a problem in the marketplace, it's a sort of AB testing.

They're pumping Buttgig ahead of options they don't fully approve of, or don't fully control, like Sanders, Warren, Beto, and more particularly Tulsi and Yang.

Exactly.

Buttgig got his big boost when Biden's star was lookng rather dim a month or so ago. Not a coincidence; that's was the DEMe floating Plan B.

I don't think Biden's behavior is gonna matter much. I literally heard a libtard the other day say that Trump proved the rules don't matter anymore on ethical/moral stuff. It's real dividing by zero thinking but I get the perspective.

That said, I still think Biden is a very weak candidate by DEM standards in 2020. Super old heterosexual white males that are corporate/wall street whore democrats aren't really the trendy thing right now among liberal circles. He is ripe to Jeb Bush'ed in the primaries by Sanders, Yang, Warren, or Tulsi. It will likely be a combination of all of them chipping away at Biden while the far-left online goes full retard and tries to take the political scalp of the old white man/wall street whore.

I don't see the 2020 DEM primary being like 2016, where there was a clear deference to Hillary. Biden is gonna get hit constantly from various directions from within DEM circles.

Post: #673

I think Biden would beat Trump, but Buttgig would (thankfully) be a bridge too far for MI, OH, PA, WI or even FL, where enough moderates would see through his fake nature, and besides, he's not very personable, a bit too stiff and polished, unlike Biden.

Buttgig's handlers, people like Axelrod or Zuckerberg, probably think that they can force their project on flyover states, I think they might get an extra perverse kick out of it.

Post: #674

(05-03-2019 12:08 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

(05-03-2019 11:45 AM)911 Wrote:  It's pretty clear now, with nearly 6 months to go, the DNC and establishment is all in behind Biden, with Buttgig in the wings as plan B, in case Biden's record and demeanor proves to be a problem in the marketplace, it's a sort of AB testing.

They're pumping Buttgig ahead of options they don't fully approve of, or don't fully control, like Sanders, Warren, Beto, and more particularly Tulsi and Yang.

Exactly.

Buttgig got his big boost when Biden's star was lookng rather dim a month or so ago. Not a coincidence; that's was the DEMe floating Plan B.

I don't think Biden's behavior is gonna matter much. I literally heard a libtard the other day say that Trump proved the rules don't matter anymore on ethical/moral stuff. It's real dividing by zero thinking but I get the perspective.

That said, I still think Biden is a very weak candidate by DEM standards in 2020. Super old heterosexual white males that are corporate/wall street whore democrats aren't really the trendy thing right now among liberal circles. He is ripe to Jeb Bush'ed in the primaries by Sanders, Yang, Warren, or Tulsi. It will likely be a combination of all of them chipping away at Biden while the far-left online goes full retard and tries to take the political scalp of the old white man/wall street whore.

I don't see the 2020 DEM primary being like 2016, where there was a clear deference to Hillary. Biden is gonna get hit constantly from various directions from within DEM circles.

I don't think Biden can rally the coalition of the fringes.

That said he could siphon off union rank and file from Trump's camp.

Post: #675

Buttgag has a better chance of keeping the left happy because he’s an asslicker (figuratively and literally) who looks and acts like the kind of person who eats $7 Avocado toast.