Post: #76

(02-25-2014 07:49 AM)memcpy Wrote:  The Japanese guy I roll with actively targets fuuzokujou because the "hottest ones" have shit tons of money. They can take down some serious money just in one day. Usually he gets these girls to pay for his car, watches, trips overseas, etc. I've met his girlfriends and was total unreal the lives they live. They are hot and kinda fucked in the head.

That must be some next level game shit for gaijins that can pull that off.

I've always had this fantasy where I'd be the young foreign stud fucking hot Japanese milfs or cougars married to rich Japanese salarymen that neglect them. They'd pay my way, pay for trips, an expensive car, nice apartment pad in Tokyo, etc etc while I plowed them on the side and gave them the best orgasms of their life in return. Haha

Too bad I don't speak Japanese, don't plan to learn, or really have a reason to return to Japan again.

Post: #77

@Laner- rare to see a nuanced breakdown on Asian culture. Bravo.

For the rest of you, just read up on the Aoki family and how ridiculous it was. Seeking Arrangement is amateur-status at best here in the States. The rest of the world has been doing this for many years.

One of my buddies is a son of a famous Asian pop singer. Lets just say he has 30+ other half-siblings from about 10-15 different women. Think about that one. The dad basically drop-offed and has no contact w/any of them.

Post: #78

(02-25-2014 04:53 PM)DVY Wrote:  @Laner- rare to see a nuanced breakdown on Asian culture. Bravo.

For the rest of you, just read up on the Aoki family and how ridiculous it was. Seeking Arrangement is amateur-status at best here in the States. The rest of the world has been doing this for many years.

One of my buddies is a son of a famous Asian pop singer. Lets just say he has 30+ other half-siblings from about 10-15 different women. Think about that one. The dad basically drop-offed and has no contact w/any of them.

Oh man Benihaha. I am sure that his death is just the tip of the iceberg as all his Americanized children come crawling out.

My girls grandfather (Taiwanese) has 4 children by one wife, 4 with his second wife, and one daughter with one of his mistresses. One of his mistresses. The only reason this one was known is that in one year his first wife gave birth to a son, his wife died later, and the mistress had a daughter. All in one intense year.

Photos of this guy are priceless. Looks like Tony Leung, wore pink shirts in Sevile Row cut suits. Partied in New York in the 60's and 70's with his buddies.

You are right. Seeking Arrangement here in America is for amateurs. The pros of this life are all Asian.

@DVY- Question. Do the Asian girls in LA that know you are a player ask you straight up to please visit brothels instead of playing the field?

I know I have been asked up here more than a few times to please just visit hookers.

Post: #79

I think it is very naive to think this only happens in Japan, this sort of behaviour has been happening in the west for some time. Christ I am sure a large percent of young girls will have sex for a Louis Vuitton bag or other trinkets.
Seeking Arrangement obviously saw a need and is trying to make money from it.
Take for example the department store Harrod's in London. The cosmetic girls "date" the rich Arab customers that visit London, generally the girls are decent looking and this practice has been going on since the 70s. My ex did not want to get a job there for that reason.

Post: #80

I can't believe guys are so bothered by the P4P stuff. I don't even go but this stuff is good for guys!

Then again, you can't be blamed for your feminized conditioning. Japan has been at this forever. Ever heard of the geisha?

Japan's attitude to sex and prostitution is far healthier than the West. Horribly boring job? Go to a hostess club. Wife not putting out? Go see a hooker.

What choices does a guy have in the US or UK? Not many.

Sargon, it's not just a Japanese thing. All women are whores for the right price. If you disagree then you are living in a very blue pill reality.

Post: #81

Not surprised about P4P. Having read enough classical literature including Japanese literature it's common. Prostitution has been around for thousands of years no need to care.

Post: #82

(02-25-2014 08:00 PM)dreambig Wrote:  I can't believe guys are so bothered by the P4P stuff. I don't even go but this stuff is good for guys!

Then again, you can't be blamed for your feminized conditioning. Japan has been at this forever. Ever heard of the geisha?

Japan's attitude to sex and prostitution is far healthier than the West. Horribly boring job? Go to a hostess club. Wife not putting out? Go see a hooker.

As I said, I consider P4P neutral and could care less if other people do it.

No, it's obviously not something exclusively Japanese. Didn't mean to imply that it was. I would suspect, however, that the stats may be a bit higher if it's more openly accepted.

Quote:Sargon, it's not just a Japanese thing. All women are whores for the right price. If you disagree then you are living in a very blue pill reality.

All people are whores for the right price. It's "bluepill" to think this only applies to women. Most men you know will sell themselves out in one way or another if the price is high enough. I'd wager at least half the guys on this forum would probably give a blowjob if you held a few hundred million yen or more in front of their noses.

Post: #83

(02-25-2014 08:00 PM)dreambig Wrote:  I can't believe guys are so bothered by the P4P stuff. I don't even go but this stuff is good for guys!

Then again, you can't be blamed for your feminized conditioning. Japan has been at this forever. Ever heard of the geisha?

Japan's attitude to sex and prostitution is far healthier than the West. Horribly boring job? Go to a hostess club. Wife not putting out? Go see a hooker.

What choices does a guy have in the US or UK? Not many.

Sargon, it's not just a Japanese thing. All women are whores for the right price. If you disagree then you are living in a very blue pill reality.

Game is like bowl skiing. The Japanese have taken a bunch of the best mountains, closed them to climbers, and installed chairlifts. Sure, you could find another way up, but a bunch of fatasses are messing up the pristine snow and leaving their trash behind. I'm not anti-development, but the Japanese have gone a bit too far.

Post: #84

What can you expect though? These guys are sexual ozone everything these day(anime cough* cough*). So what's to stop them from fucking the high schoolers. Japan has it's own form of degeneracy. It's just over there you're less likely to end up with a complete slut or raped in divorce court.

Post: #85

(02-25-2014 11:01 PM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  No, it's obviously not something exclusively Japanese. Never implied that it was. I would suspect, however, that the stats may be a bit higher if it's more openly accepted.

Well you said you wouldn't marry a Japanese girl because of this. It happens everywhere dude.

(02-25-2014 11:01 PM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  Most men you know will sell themselves out in one way or another if the price is high enough. I'd wager at least half the guys on this forum would probably give a blowjob if you held a few hundred million yen or more in front of their noses.

Post: #86

(02-25-2014 11:13 PM)Skotch Wrote:  

(02-25-2014 08:00 PM)dreambig Wrote:  I can't believe guys are so bothered by the P4P stuff. I don't even go but this stuff is good for guys!

Then again, you can't be blamed for your feminized conditioning. Japan has been at this forever. Ever heard of the geisha?

Japan's attitude to sex and prostitution is far healthier than the West. Horribly boring job? Go to a hostess club. Wife not putting out? Go see a hooker.

What choices does a guy have in the US or UK? Not many.

Sargon, it's not just a Japanese thing. All women are whores for the right price. If you disagree then you are living in a very blue pill reality.

Game is like bowl skiing. The Japanese have taken a bunch of the best mountains, closed them to climbers, and installed chairlifts. Sure, you could find another way up, but a bunch of fatasses are messing up the pristine snow and leaving their trash behind. I'm not anti-development, but the Japanese have gone a bit too far.

Money beats game if you have enough of it. If you are lacking in money then get richer.

I get your point and I'm not saying you are hating, but women will always be attracted to money. Prostitution is just the most blatant form of this.

Post: #87

^^What I'm saying is that most of men or women could be pursuaded sell out in some way or do something they may consider degrading or against their principles if offered enough money. Need not necessarily be a blowjob. That in itself is not something particularly female.

Quote:Well you said you wouldn't marry a Japanese girl because of this. It happens everywhere dude.

True, I did. Yes, it happens everywhere. But it seems likely, if you assume it's more accepted in Japan, that it may be more prevalent here than in some other countries. I admit this is largely speculative.

Post: #88

OK it wasn't my intention wasn't to troll you guys. Just wanted to make the point that the cutest, most innocent girl you see has the potential to whore herself out. I guess I was surprised that you were surprised.

I once met up with a Japanese ex-girlfriend for dinner at my place. I had taken her virginity at 17 when she was smoking hot and (obviously) still had major oneitis for her. She was engaged to a Japanese guy from her father's company. I was still very much blue pill at the time.

For some reason, she loved a jacket I had and kept commenting about it. After a few drinks, she told me she would "do anything" to have it and then started to strip naked in front of me.

I rarely wore the jacket so I figured "fuck it" and proceeded to bang her raw and came inside her. The sex was very rough and primal as I was thinking "What a whore this girl is." This was a red pill moment for me. This previously sweet and innocent girl from a good family had literally turned into a whore in front of my eyes. What had happened to her? Now I know that the answer is that nothing happened. All girls have the potential to do this.

She is now married to the same guy who is none the wiser. She texts me to hang out because she is "bored" (I politely decline these days). Poor dude...

Post: #89

Hey Guys,

I'm leaving for Japan in a month to teach English for around a year. I'm not sure where I'll be placed yet but should know in the next two weeks. I've read most posts on this forum about Japan, and I'm obviously excited about the experience I'm about to have but I really have no clue what to expect. That's fine though too, I like to go into things with an open mind. That being said, any tips, advice, warnings, suggestions, etc.?

I'm 24, caucasian, and have basically underachieved game-wise most of my life. I know the potential is there because I've seen and felt it before, but I need a kick in the ass and have to put more effort in. I'll take into account all of the info I've read here. I think I'll need to get more comfortable with daygame but I'm also hoping I can find a cool niche where I can work within a social circle. I realize for that to happen though I'd need to reach at least an intermediate Japanese level. Any game tips for a beginner in Japanese?

I really have no experience with Japanese language or culture. I'm using the pimselur language system and trying to build up a basic understanding before I go to Japan. Any tips about language? I don't know how to read Japanese or where to start.

I'm in good shape and like lifting weights and playing basketball. From what I've read I might not be able to find a good gym. Because I'm not sure I'll have the time anyways, I'm trying to teach myself a bodyweight exercise routine I can do at home and I''ll try to pick up a chin up bar somewhere in Japan. I'm hoping I can still play basketball but I've asked Skotch about that and he said that might be more difficult than I think. I also like hiking and would like to explore Japan's terrain and take some nature trips while I'm there. Any tips on staying active/weightlifting/basketball/nature?

How about the food? Any tips on how to save money in the grocery stores or what's a doable, good diet like in Japan?

Any books that would be helpful to read before I head over there?

Anyways, I think this will be a great experience for me and I'm very excited, as well as a little nervous, to head over to Japan. Thanks for all the great info about Japan on this board, it's been very helpful. The idea to teach ESL was planted in my head from RVF about 2-3 years ago, so it's crazy for me to see it come to fruition now.

Post: #90

(02-25-2014 06:48 PM)Laner Wrote:  [quote='DVY' pid='663413' dateline='1393365180']

@DVY- Question. Do the Asian girls in LA that know you are a player ask you straight up to please visit brothels instead of playing the field?

I know I have been asked up here more than a few times to please just visit hookers.

Ha, thats hysterical. No hooker visitation requests yet sans my dad. Everytime I travel, he tells me to not "risk it" and just go and pay, preferably at a big, well-established whore-house. :-X. Would be funny if it wasn't so awkward....

Every single fob Asian girl asks me if I am a player and yet sleeps w/me anyways often on the 1st night. Kind of mind-baffling tbh.

Have other female friends(of your girl) asked your girl if they can have you too? This has happened to me 3 times in the last 6 months. Another mindfuck.

Post: #91

I got this from a chick on facebook, any ideas guys? google translation is shit, but I get the jist that she is down to meet:

おじゃまします(ﾉ)ｪ(ヾ)

ここはじめたばっかりで良くわからず
フラフラしてたら気になってしまったので
メッセージ送りました(●´Д｀●)
自分でいうのもあれだけど、こう見えて面白いんですよ♪笑

空いてる時間あったら、少し自分にわけてください(*´ｪ｀*)笑
fb初めたはいいのですが
やっぱり合わないみたいなので直接こっちで連絡取り合えたら嬉しいです(^ω^ﾍ)
ちなみに食べたりするのは大好きですっ！(笑)
一緒に行ける人募集してます！(笑)

では！さらばです(´Ｉ `*)

Post: #92

(02-26-2014 12:54 AM)kapitaw Wrote:  Any tips on staying active/weightlifting/basketball/nature?

How about the food? Any tips on how to save money in the grocery stores or what's a doable, good diet like in Japan?

Any books that would be helpful to read before I head over there?

Good on you for making your plan come true.

To stay fit, go running. Gyms here seem to focus on machines or areobics.Bodyweight at home works for me.

Food:

Budgeting will be important. Easy to blow $50 a day eating out.

I manage with about $15-20 a day, cooking at my place. Protein is relatively expensive, so get creative. I eat a lot of peanuts (cheap) and small fish (cheaper and delicious).

I buy groceries almost everyday, chances are there will be a supermarket within walking distance from your place (5-10 minutes tops). Japanese are lazy as fuck when it comes to going anywhere on foot.

Dry noodles will be cheaper, and every town has a discount grocery. Some of them sell mostly frozen food, so if you dont mind that, you can save some serious $$ (esp buying in bulk).

I dont do processed food, but you could eat cheaply and fairly well using the frozen food section and the dry food. They love convenience and time saving food, so there is a wild assortment of ready-to-eat and nearly ready cheap chow.

Avoid shopping in the large depato stores (huge departments stores) like Daimaru and Isetan. Gorgeous produce, but not cheap.

Use the chain restos when not near home, you'll save $$. Not exactly gourmet fare but good enough. You can get a generous serving of fried chicken for $5 if you dig around.

Books:

depends what do you want to get out of the experience. Culture? Getting around? I'll check when I get home, but at least try getting "Point it". Its all pictures of what you'll need for food, transport, etc. Very very useful.

Good luck man, its a hell of a country.

Post: #93

(02-26-2014 03:17 AM)Fortitudinal Wrote:  I got this from a chick on facebook, any ideas guys? google translation is shit, but I get the jist that she is down to meet:

おじゃまします(ﾉ)ｪ(ヾ)

ここはじめたばっかりで良くわからず
フラフラしてたら気になってしまったので
メッセージ送りました(●´Д｀●)
自分でいうのもあれだけど、こう見えて面白いんですよ♪笑

空いてる時間あったら、少し自分にわけてください(*´ｪ｀*)笑
fb初めたはいいのですが
やっぱり合わないみたいなので直接こっちで連絡取り合えたら嬉しいです(^ω^ﾍ)
ちなみに食べたりするのは大好きですっ！(笑)
一緒に行ける人募集してます！(笑)

では！さらばです(´Ｉ `*)

That's definitely machine translated or non-native Japanese. It's fake. It looks like she's trying to get you to contact her outside of Facebook? Was there an address or a link included?

Post: #94

(02-26-2014 03:51 AM)Skotch Wrote:  

(02-26-2014 03:17 AM)Fortitudinal Wrote:  I got this from a chick on facebook, any ideas guys? google translation is shit, but I get the jist that she is down to meet:

おじゃまします(ﾉ)ｪ(ヾ)

ここはじめたばっかりで良くわからず
フラフラしてたら気になってしまったので
メッセージ送りました(●´Д｀●)
自分でいうのもあれだけど、こう見えて面白いんですよ♪笑

空いてる時間あったら、少し自分にわけてください(*´ｪ｀*)笑
fb初めたはいいのですが
やっぱり合わないみたいなので直接こっちで連絡取り合えたら嬉しいです(^ω^ﾍ)
ちなみに食べたりするのは大好きですっ！(笑)
一緒に行ける人募集してます！(笑)

では！さらばです(´Ｉ `*)

That's definitely machine translated or non-native Japanese. It's fake. It looks like she's trying to get you to contact her outside of Facebook? Was there an address or a link included?

Ha, Thanks a lot man. Yeah, I got an email address for outside of facebook. Whats the angle?

Post: #95

Fortitudinal, it's just a scam, I get these from time to time on fb and my phone.

Her compliments, are very generic and strange, copy and pasted.

If you sign up, or visit the site, you may get tons more spam.

Post: #96

Thanks guys. If its too good to be true . . .

Post: #97

(02-26-2014 02:57 AM)DVY Wrote:  

(02-25-2014 06:48 PM)Laner Wrote:  [quote='DVY' pid='663413' dateline='1393365180']

@DVY- Question. Do the Asian girls in LA that know you are a player ask you straight up to please visit brothels instead of playing the field?

I know I have been asked up here more than a few times to please just visit hookers.

Ha, thats hysterical. No hooker visitation requests yet sans my dad. Everytime I travel, he tells me to not "risk it" and just go and pay, preferably at a big, well-established whore-house. :-X. Would be funny if it wasn't so awkward....

Every single fob Asian girl asks me if I am a player and yet sleeps w/me anyways often on the 1st night. Kind of mind-baffling tbh.

Have other female friends(of your girl) asked your girl if they can have you too? This has happened to me 3 times in the last 6 months. Another mindfuck.

Too funny. I have friends who visit brothels with their dads. That shit is too much for my family.

I have never been asked, but I have had the greenlight from a girl and went for it. They were Korean friends and I still consider them to be in the very outer reaches of my harem.

Funny story about Tokyo. Last time I was there I met up with two girls I had a threesome with back in Vancouver. We go back to a karaoke and I am pushing for a threesome again and one girl just says that she has a boyfriend but the other girl will fuck me. She then curled up on the sofa and went to sleep while we went at it.

Sometimes the casualness towards sex in Japan is a mindfuck.

Post: #98

Last friday, I go on a date w/2 japanese girls. This is my 1st date. 1 Japanese chick is gorgeous (8+), the other is her cousin 5-6. I pick them up and take them to K-town for food and drinks. My buddy tags along, so its a dbl date.

The date goes swimmingly well for me and both girls were drunk. My buddy was like ehhh, I had some laughs but not down for this girl. I drop both girls at home. Walk out and give a kiss to the my chick. Her cousin points at her her lips, so I kiss her too. Then the girls start giggling. Then I kissed my girl. Then the girls started getting excited. Keep in mind this is on the street in front of their house.

I felt like this


I had a big surgery the next day at 7am, so it didn't push. I was def too sober for that moment. Prolly woulda chickened out.

Post: #99

Next time man!

There is nothing like a threesome with two J-girls. They spend some serious time making sure you are happy and there is no doubt who the centre of attention is.

Unlike western women who watch too much porn and try and sit on my face when the other chick is riding me.

Fuck that.

Post: #100

(02-26-2014 09:31 PM)Laner Wrote:  Next time man!

There is nothing like a threesome with two J-girls. They spend some serious time making sure you are happy and there is no doubt who the centre of attention is.

Unlike western women who watch too much porn and try and sit on my face when the other chick is riding me.

Fuck that.

That's a problem I could definitely try to ride out