Post: #1

My game is strong - verbally. I can do kino - get neutral responses. Ocasionally this girl adjusts my hair or straightens my tie - says it annoys her when it isn't.

I can hug, touch arms, grab by shoulders and she usually walks very close in my inner bubble when alone. Yet this.

Any ideas why this sort of stuff happens? This one girl is an example of many girls doing the same thing. I can initiate kino, yet she'll do nothing? Is my SMV too low and I need to lift? Or am I some sort of social autist?

Post: #2

I always think of girl's lack of reciprocating kino as indication of disinterest and whenever I encountered it, I never kiss/bang at the end. That is just my experience, of course and might not be so for others.

Post: #3

You need to make her write an essay

Post: #4

Most girls I fucked didnt do kino back. Girls are just passive in the beginning.

Post: #5

You don't really provide a ton of info to go off, such as how long you've known this girl, was this your first date, etc.

If this is a girl that you've known for a long time and you two hang out regularly with other friends, and she doesn't reciprocate whatsoever, she probably isn't into you. Girls will usually give at least a sign that they are interested (plenty of threads about that here). Perhaps you're still too inexperienced to tell the signs, but it probably isn't worth it to keep pushing if this is a social circle connect.

If its a first date, while you're still learning, I would continue to flirt/"kino" until you get a strong indication (possibly a verbal one) that she isn't interested. I've had several dates where the girl wasn't responding physically to my moves, but continued to engage. Eventually when I kissed her, it was game on. Some girls are just passive.

Post: #6

Interesting, I had a date a few days ago, I was on track ramping up the unrejected kino, and I noticed - she is not doing any back.

I thought this is not going to end well.

But I got the bang.

A more important measure is if she rejects your kino escalation, rather than reciprocates.

Post: #7

(03-14-2019 07:49 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Interesting, I had a date a few days ago, I was on track ramping up the unrejected kino, and I noticed - she is not doing any back.

I thought this is not going to end well.

But I got the bang.

A more important measure is if she rejects your kino escalation, rather than reciprocates.

What kind of kino are you guys doing on first dates?

I only do light stuff while inside the venue- tap on the hand, hold her hand for a bit, high five, tap on shoulder etc. And hardly ever get any reciprocation but I've never noticed that to be an issue.

Once outside the bar, I would usually do the linked arms or arm on her back walking back to mine.

Post: #8

My ex- was like that too. Completely passive to my kino while we were first dating. Current girl is like that too. Let’s me touch her. Doesn’t pull back. Been with other girls who gave as good as they got. I think, unless they pull back or such, passivity to kino provides no information.

Post: #9

My ex- was like that too. Completely passive to my kino while we were first dating. Current girl is like that too. Let’s me touch her. Doesn’t pull back. Been with otogirlsvwho gave as good as they got. I think, unless they pull back or such, passivity to kino provides little more then information.

Post: #10

(03-15-2019 10:32 AM)coffeedrinker Wrote:  What kind of kino are you guys doing on first dates?

I only do light stuff while inside the venue- tap on the hand, hold her hand for a bit, high five, tap on shoulder etc. And hardly ever get any reciprocation but I've never noticed that to be an issue.

Once outside the bar, I would usually do the linked arms or arm on her back walking back to mine.

Search the forum for kino escalation guides, or even the net.

You are doing that right, slowly and boldly ramp up the touching.

hand touches, arm touches, leg touches. Hold hands, arm around her body, gentle "direction pushes" on lower back slowly ramping up.

Measure her responses - does she accept, lean in, cringe, reject, reciprocate?

Like I said, my last bang gave no reciprocation, but also no rejection, so its hard to know how it will play out.