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Famous feminist writer wants society to enable her food addiction
Long/short of it, orca sized Afro-American feminist writer Roxane Gay blames her obesity on childhood rape trauma. I honestly feel for her and believe emotional trauma is the biggest cause of addiction. However, according to progressivist ideology, being fat is just another mode of being, fundamentally equal to being thin or athletic, and it's society that must change to accommodate Roxane's girth.

Rape trauma plus feminist/leftist ideology equals fat acceptance.

http://news.nationalpost.com/entertainme...alued-body

Roxane Gay writes books you need to recover from.

Her two most recent fiction entries – Difficult Women and Untamed State – are books that devastate in the best possible way. They make it hard to find something worthy to crack open next.

Rarely, for me at least, does non-fiction have the same effect. But Gay’s latest offering, and her first memoir, Hunger, is a catalogue of the indignities inflicted upon fat bodies and it punches, well, in the gut.

Gay rips herself open and lays bare her own history to display how our world doesn’t welcome different shapes and sizes. After a brutal gang sexual assault at the age of 12 in a cabin by boys from her nearby suburban community, Gay put meat on her bones to create an armour, which then became its own burden. It is an intensely personal story that becomes a universal musing on the state of fat bodies in a society that doesn’t want them to fit. In her bare and punchy prose, in short staccato musings and longer personal narratives, Gay gives the reader both her own story and the too-often unspoken truth of living in a fat body.

“I was thinking about what I want to do next, and I was thinking the book I want to write least is a book about fatness, so I was thinking, okay, this is a book I need to write most,” she says in an interview from L.A. where she now lives part of the time. “What no one else is doing and what do I want to do the least – that let me know there was something interesting here that was worth exploring.

Hunger teems with (societally created) shame and (unfair) embarrassment, the moments of pain for fat bodies inflicted often through callous best intentions. The doctor who writes “obesity” on a chart before an actual diagnosis – strep throat; The family members who can’t stop talking about “your problem” as a communal shame; the stranger in the gym who looks on with pity and tells you to keep at it. Every fat person has their own versions – reading the book I spent as much time working through some of my own worst memories as I did absorbing hers. The doctor who didn’t diagnose an ulcer when I was 13 because he thought I just needed to “cheer up about the end of March Break” and “lose the weight.” The friend’s mom who once told me how “lucky” I was to find a partner “as I am” after decades of veiled comments about my weight (I wanted to scream that he’s the lucky one). The discomfort of shopping with friends at tiny boutiques for tiny people, and not being comfortable until my late 20s saying where I got that cute dress someone commented on. The looks friends exchange when you have to shift a table ever so slightly to fit on a banquette. A shame for your body so strong you allow it to be debased – until you find a way to love it so someone else can too.

Hunger is a series of “me too’s” for anyone who has lived in a fat body. It should reveal to those who haven’t the way they too, even with their loving smiles and suggestions and gifts of healthy cookbooks, compound that pain. From the medical establishment to airlines to clothing stores, Hunger tells the ugly truth of navigating a world that isn’t designed for your shape. It shows how institutions have failed fat bodies because, like so many people, they want to look away from them, away from the humanity inside and its needs.

“I definitely hope that people gain a different empathy for different bodies,” Gay says. “I would love for doctors to read it and remember their oath and treat fat bodies better. As I say in the book, you can talk to me about my weight as a medical professional, but when I come into the office because of a sore throat you can’t write on my chart ‘obese.’ That’s not why I’m there, I’m really there for some penicillin. Give me the penicillin.”

“And I would love if the fashion industry would give me some awesome clothes that are more widely available. There are some boutiques that sell clothes for fat women, thank god, but they’re mostly online and not all of them (are) close to my taste,” Gay said.

“I don’t wear dresses, so there’s not a lot out there,” she says (stores like Lane Bryant stop at size 26). “I wish they had more options for us. You can’t make me a nice pair of slacks? You can’t size that up?”

Hunger unpacks the same themes that have been emerging in the body positivity movement online, and Gay has worked through some of them on her own Tumblr. She takes those narratives from digital communities to the printed page, and says that as much as she didn’t want to write it, that’s another reason she knew she had to.
“There are not many book-length works where someone writes about fatness without tying it exclusively to a weight-loss narrative, and without going into just like what daily life is like in a fat body and how this world is really constrained and discriminatory toward fat bodies.”

For all the media’s coverage about the obesity epidemic and the problem with sugar, the human inside the fat body is a side of the story that has not only been missed, but has been trampled over. Gay hopes her book can help nudge the discourse in a more constructive direction, and help doctors better treat fat patients as more than just their bodies.

The bigger you get, the smaller the world becomes
“I think that one of the key things is for people to recognize that studies are just that. They’re studies and they’re grounded in specific circumstances, but they don’t necessarily account for every fat person – they don’t speak for all of the fat community,” she says. “Why not talk to actual fat people in addition to talking to actual medical professionals?

“Ask (doctors) how they accommodate fat bodies in your practice, because I think the answers would be very eye-opening.”

Hunger also reveals how those with smaller fat bodies often lose empathy for those even bigger than themselves (there’s a telling anecdote in the book’s first few pages about “that thing fat people tend to do around other fat people” – measuring themselves to see who is fatter). Many fat bodies, mine included, can nod along to much of her narrative, but we are what she calls “Lane Bryant fat” – a reference to the American clothing line that’s akin to Canada’s Addition Elle and carries Ashley Graham’s line among others.

Gay laughs a bit when I ask if Graham appearing in Sports Illustrated’s Swimsuit Issue and gaining national prominence gives her hope, if it’s a sign things are getting better. “C’mon? She’s wonderful, but c’mon, really? That’s because people have very f—king low bars for what better is. That’s not better. We’re not making progress, we’re nowhere near. We can – and I hope we will – but we’re not there yet.”

Because if Graham, whose body has its curves in all the right places, represents the biggest body we can deem palatable (and even then there are many who can’t) we have a long way to go. Most fat bodies are bigger, even Graham’s Instagram account is littered with women saying her body “is goal.”

“Lane Bryant fat bodies” are the ones in this slow-but-growing movement toward body positivity that get the best play. They make people less uncomfortable. They also fit better, not just into clothing that many fat bodies size out of, but in chairs and airplane seats and on doctors’ examination tables.

As Gay puts it: “the bigger you get, the smaller the world becomes.” For a very fat body, a trip to the theatre results in rough bruises, and choosing a restaurant requires checking out its seating to ensure they aren’t those teeny armed chairs that cut into your frame.

Gay also talks about how living in a fat body makes her more aware of how different abilities navigate spaces differently; she’s more aware of how persons with disabilities face barriers in their day-to-day lives. Reading Hunger made me more aware of the privileges I enjoy, the plethora of shopping options, an ease of movement.

“I think that most of our experiences are very similar. I think the takeaway is to recognize there are levels to this, as the kids say. We have lots and lots of common ground but there are also ways in which we do not share common ground. So let’s have some empathy for each other about the ways in which we do not,” she says.

So what will better look like? When will we starting inching toward a world truly tailored for all bodies? Right now, the first truly fat character on TV, a woman in This Is Us, is portrayed by an actress is who is contractually obligated to lose weight as part of the role to fulfill her character arc.

“What does it say about our cultural imagination that we can’t imagine a fat person being happy, valued and valuable simply as fat?” Gay asks. “That weight loss has to be part of this redemptive arc, when her existence as it is should be redemptive. That’s how she’s happy, or in this instance, how her character is happy.s

“We just don’t live in a world where people can imagine fat as a positive thing. That’s what progress will look like: when we can imagine the fat body as a valued body.”
06-16-2017 09:22 PM
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Worthless without pics

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(06-17-2017 08:10 AM)Gmac Wrote:  Worthless without pics

Please God no.
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Somebody please send her a link to keto/ low carb diet advice!
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(06-17-2017 08:54 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  Somebody please send her a link to keto/ low carb diet advice!

That might be considered a hate crime
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(06-16-2017 09:22 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  “We just don’t live in a world where people can imagine fat as a positive thing. That’s what progress will look like: when we can imagine the fat body as a valued body.”

But you ARE valued, darling - very much so by the soap industry.
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There are a dizzying number of critiques one could level at fat acceptance nonsense, but I'd like to emphasize that I despise SJW jargonspeak: the way they take words and phrases and twist them into pseudo-academic, pretentious bullshit:

"different bodies"
"fatness"
"fat bodies"
"size out of"
"valued body"

And not in this article, but all over the place in the BLM movement: "black bodies"
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And again with the "bodies" language from these people.

Not knowing the actual ideological foundations of that peculiar usage, I imagine them perceiving human existence as though we are all AIs forcibly downloaded into randomly-assigned flesh-based robot chassis.
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Blame Gmac.

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(06-17-2017 08:10 AM)Gmac Wrote:  Worthless without pics

(06-17-2017 08:23 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Blame Gmac.

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Is this thread worth more now?
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(06-17-2017 08:50 PM)FireStarter Wrote:  Is this thread worth more now?

It's now heavier. Does that count?
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(06-17-2017 08:50 PM)FireStarter Wrote:  
(06-17-2017 08:10 AM)Gmac Wrote:  Worthless without pics

(06-17-2017 08:23 PM)RIslander Wrote:  Blame Gmac.

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Is this thread worth more now?

The look in her eyes tells you her whole story. Also, it seems even her facial muscles are out of shape.
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(06-17-2017 09:17 PM)Germanicus Wrote:  
(06-17-2017 08:50 PM)FireStarter Wrote:  Is this thread worth more now?

It's now heavier. Does that count?

I guess you could say that it has more substance
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I didn't realise that she's drop-dead-from-a-heart-attack huge, with tattoos, a rubbish dress sense, and openly bisexual.
Jokes aside, she's a walking poster girl for mortality risk factors.
She's book smart though if that's worth anything.
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This whale is the gift that keeps on giving.

Mamamia, a truly deplorable site for wealthy feminists to feel sorry for themselves, got into a whole pile of trouble for mocking Gay for her weight. Cue feminists eating each other alive:

https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/arts-and-...00502c.htm

Quote:MIA FREEDMAN SERVED BY FEMINIST AUTHOR FOR 100% RANK BREACH OF CONFIDENCE

A prominent American feminist has absolutely laid into Australian website Mamamia, over an incredibly dumb take from its founder and publisher, Mia Freedman.

...

She interviewed Gay for Mamamia's podcast 'No Filter', but to promote the episode, literally breached Gay's confidence to breathlessly describe the private communications between the Mamamia producer and Gay's people about the interview and Gay's weight.

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Gay has absolutely laid into Mamamia, calling the interview a "shit show" and blasting the specific phrases used by Freedman to describe her weight.

The Twitter spat has been hilarious. For example:

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It just dawned on me this is another example of feminism literally getting women killed.
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She's also an idiot, because not only do you have to eat big to get big, you also have to be a lethargic piece of trash. She could be an overeater if she could also be an overexerter
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(06-18-2017 10:25 AM)Sonoma Wrote:  She's also an idiot, because not only do you have to eat big to get big, you also have to be a lethargic piece of trash. She could be an overeater if she could also be an overexerter

Her hips and knees are doing double duty. Does that count?
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(06-18-2017 01:34 PM)tarquin Wrote:  
(06-18-2017 10:25 AM)Sonoma Wrote:  She's also an idiot, because not only do you have to eat big to get big, you also have to be a lethargic piece of trash. She could be an overeater if she could also be an overexerter

Her hips and knees are doing double duty. Does that count?

Not if she barely moves.
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