Post: #1

A short introduction about myself - I'm not new to the art of pick up having read some books and articles but I admittedly have not put the skills to the test enough. I don't sarge and approach ten girls a night like people here recommend and that's mostly because I've always had a girlfriend for the past maybe 10 years. I am 27.

My story revolves around this one girl and I will try to keep it as concise as possible. She is almost 5 years older than me, we've known each other since elementary (10+ years), she was always a player but she was also a good friend to me.

It was maybe 10 years ago that I first began to want this girl after she said to me that she 'felt weird' after hanging out with me for a day and that they were 'good feelings'. For these past 10 years, we've always tried to hook up on and off. Issues being we both have partners (gf/bf) but the real issue is that I had never f-closed and she never committed to it. She said she wants to be with me when she already has a bf so I try to fk and there's major LMR and she will not give it up. One time, she spent maybe 5 days staying with me in my condo, refusing to fk every night but was ok to makeout. She's said that she wanted to have sex with me but was afraid of what our friends would say given her already poor reputation and track record with guys.

She said that she's afraid that if she had sex with me and we ended up together, she would also end up hurting me (by cheating on me because that's what I know she'd do). TBH, I don't even know what I want from this girl as I know she's not the best human being but it is really eating me alive that I have yet to f-close her.

She has broken up two of my relationships in the past by saying that she wants me to breakup with my gf to be with her only for her to reject me once it all starts to become real. I don't completely blame her because I am also at fault for falling for her and the thing is even though I know she is full of shit, there's a part of me that thinks there must be something real in the affectionate actions and words she displays towards me. To be completely honest, I guess I still cannot conclude whether she is totally playing me or half playing me or what the hell is going on in her head.

The most recent encounter and time spent with her spans around a month from last December - January. We met at a small get together with our highschool friends. She had texted me months before that she would be going and asked if I would be too. I had intended to cut her off from my life (for the 8th time or sth) so I didn't reply to her text msg but it was acknowledged. I showed up late and she was there already but had brought her bf. She introduced us, some jokes were cracked. Then while we are all sitting together at the drinks table, while she sees me sitting across the table from her bf, she texts me "do you want to be my boyfriend? I will break up with him." I replied, "OK." She then goes into a frenzy of texts but had to end up going back with her bf anyways because we were out of town, they had a hotel room etc.

Fast forward to the times I see her after this encounter, we meet and it's all very lovey dovey in the beginning. I saw her on a morning train ride (which was the best feeling I've had in 2019, better than sex), lunch dates, dinner dates, and too much texting in between although she always made me feel like she was the one being slow to reply.

Our situation at this point was that we were both in relationships. She said she would break up with her bf to be with me and I told her I was sure I wanted to be with her. She said for weeks that she had been trying to break up with her bf but he refuses to leave her apartment (which sounds fishy already but ok).

She then gets me in trouble by telling my gf's best friend who is her colleague that I go over to see her at her office now and again. She called me immediately after saying she was sorry and that she didn't know this person knew my gf but I also doubt her story and whether or not she intentionally sabotaged my relationship for I'm not sure why.

Skip to that next weekend, I told her to come stay at my place, she said yes but I sensed that she would flake. She did but said that she would come over for just a little while in the evening. She came over, we made out, she felt my fully hard dick pressed against her and said that she couldn't do it because she would feel guilty towards her bf. I'm thinking that's major bullshit considering that she's cheating on him all day when she's texting me saying that she's thinking of me and wants to be with me etc.

Anyways, she said she couldn't fk because she'd feel guilty but she'd be back in the morning after some work thing she had to go. I didn't push the f-close because it was early in the evening, the mood wasn't right, and I thought I'd have another chance the next morning. But by noon the day after, she calls and says she wasn't coming over anymore because she had to sort out some laundry and some other bullshit because Sunday. I felt like she was being disrespectful of my time, saying she'd meet and flake on a regular so I told her and she said it was because she has ties she can't completely cut off yet. So I ended up cutting her off because she didn't show up that morning by saying I don't want to be meeting her and chatting behind my gf's back. I made it pretty obvious that I still like her and she agreed to our agreement of no contact. I had hoped to see some fight from her but I guess the lack of any should make it clear that she never really cared about me.

And this girl always leaves me in a world of confusion. Does she really not give a shit about me, a lifelong friend, that much that she would much rather just turn me into a toy she throws away after short gratification/validation? I feel like we were much better as genuine friends who could talk to each other about anything. She said she wanted more but she won't give it. Now she's posting happy pictures with her bf which is totally confusing because of all the things she told me she hates about him.

Thank you all who took the time to read this messy sad story (if anyone did).

I anticipate that there will be lots of 'go sarge' and go-meet-new-girls feedback, which I do not disagree with. But what I'm here looking for really is advice on how to win the game when the girl is obviously also playing you. This girl I'm talking about has also read The Game, is a cheater, flirts with every average looking guy she meets, but I am obsessed over her and f-closing for psychological closure, if anything.

All my friends say that I should stay as far away from this person as possible because she is always bad news. Both male and female friends tell me the same thing.

But no contact is easy to do and not what I am here for. What I want to know is how does one go about winning over a girl like this? I don't know if she was, but a girl who has every intention to get you to like her but no intentions of being with you. Does PUA say that I just need to get to f-close base first here and some weird chemicals will be released in her brain to make her a better person? Or is that impossible and I am just wasting my time overthinking this mess?

This is a case of 10+ years of oneitis, I've had relationships in between and am in one right now, but this crazy bitch has always been in the back of my mind throughout all the years and she comes to the forefront every now and again. I need to do something as it's not healthy for my psyche. I've cut her off for maybe 3 weeks now and still can't stop thinking about her and I'm supposed to be a grown ass man in a relationship.

Post: #2

Firstly, she's not a player, she's a slut.

Cut all contact with her. Block her number and don't think about her. I want to call you every kind of beta emotional tampon prick under the sun for wasting so many years of your life, but the first sentence is your only viable action so just take that from this post.

Somehow I doubt you will.

Post: #3

Not reading that shit, Girls can't be players. As above slut = 'player'

Post: #4

Homey you're dealing with the Real Life

   

Right There! To call these type of women sluts is far too simplistic! They've got relatively good looks, a cool let's hang with the boyz vibe, and uncanny intuition in general... but especially with men! I know how deadly these women can be firsthand! As other mentioned... you should absolutely not speak to her at all... but can you? Shit... I think I know the answer to this one!

You're addicted to the cooch... and women similar to her can all feel it! You're probably doing good financially, so these women latch on to you with a tight tight grip. If I was in your position... and had some money saved up... I'd drop the current GF (you were going to anyway if this chick had scooped you up), not speak to Ms. Oneitis... and travel somewhere alone for a good chunk of time to get through this withdrawal feeling that you need to overcome... because that's what it is my friend: an addiction!

If you can't get away... I'd recommend going monk mode for a while. Hopefully you don't have kids & can afford to just focus on you for a bit! Good luck!

Post: #5

Quote:I anticipate that there will be lots of 'go sarge' and go-meet-new-girls feedback, which I do not disagree with. But what I'm here looking for really is advice on how to win the game when the girl is obviously also playing you. This girl I'm talking about has also read The Game, is a cheater, flirts with every average looking guy she meets, but I am obsessed over her and f-closing for psychological closure, if anything.

This isn't a case of "go meet other girls". You've said you're regularly in relationships, but you break off the relationships in the hope of being with this girl.

That's crazy, man. Your problem is 100% internal. That girl is crack cocaine to you. You need to fight off the addiction. Don't you see how much this infatuation has cost you? You've broken up relationships, probably took a damage to your reputation, all so you could try to get it on with some girl you know to be a slut. And every single time she played you and went on to bang some other dude. Do you have a cuckold fetish?

Quote:how to win the game when the girl is obviously also playing you

The only game you're playing is against yourself. Drop this girl. Quit cold turkey. Stop chasing her. Block her and ignore her when she tries to reconnect. Work on your dignity and self esteem, that's what you're lacking.

Post: #6

For those reading this thread and want a TL;DR

Boy knows girls for over 10 years

Never fucks her, just some heavy petting

She gets fucked by other guys and makes OP break up with her GF's for her own pleasure and attention.



This bitch has wasted your time, this bitch is a manipulative, this bitch is a slut.

You already know this slut will fuck other dudes and text other dudes behind your back when you're with her, so why the fuck would you want to be with her?


All because because you couldn't fuck her?


Seriously? You could've fucked at least 50 other girls by now in that 10 year span.


LISTEN to Roberto, he has the best advice, BLOCK THIS BITCH AND NEVER TALK TO HER AGAIN.

She's not a friend, she's not a lover, she's a waste of time and she's wasting yours.

Post: #7

Boy, these dudes who start their 1st post with a whole fuckin' thread.

Post: #8

Quote:But what I'm here looking for really is advice on how to win the game when the girl is obviously also playing you.

What I want to know is how does one go about winning over a girl like this

You don't. The only winning move is to not play. Take your ball and go home.

Quote:Does PUA say that I just need to get to f-close base first here and some weird chemicals will be released in her brain to make her a better person?

This isn't really a PUA forum in the general sense. Most PUA communities are full of blue-pilled autists who use terms like "f-close". The only answer you'll hear on this forum is to permanently ghost her.

Walking away isn't giving up, nor is it punishment for her - it's for your own sake. She is a parasitic slut who will only bring you down.

Post: #9

WTF, even when I was a clueless teenager I dropped the bitch I chased for one year after she made out with another guy
This dude breaks his relationships over a girl he doesn't fuck but she fucks other dudes all the time

(01-24-2019 03:45 AM)Wonitis Wrote:  A short introduction about myself - I'm not new to the art of pick up having read some books and articles but I admittedly have not put the skills to the test enough.

Yeah, no shit, only reading was not nearly enough
Hopefully you're gonna change that drastically. Blocking and erasing all the girl's contacts is the first step

This is not even worthy of the Newbie Sub Forum, probably would have to create a Cuck Forum and put this thread there

Post: #10

(01-24-2019 03:45 AM)Wonitis Wrote:  This girl I'm talking about has also read The Game, is a cheater, flirts with every average looking guy she meets, but I am obsessed over her and f-closing for psychological closure, if anything.

My god, girls read The Game too? Shit!
What this forum??

Anyway, your girl sounds an awful lot like a girl I knew. The difference was I was shagging her, but she didn't want to be together. However the getting me to break up with new gf,'s after I moved on is exactly the same and she didn't break up with her bf when she said she would. It is all a fucking game, and playing it is dangerous. Even after you win, she will still be back for round two so she can screw you over and win in the end, like mine did. I've been there, I know how hard it is when everyone says, forget her she is no good for you. But they are right. We here are all right. I mean bloody hell all this and you haven't laid her jesus. Don't be like me and keep going years with it. I don't speak to her now but she still haunts me, 5 years later. More fool me. She just wants to win you and fuck you around. We always want what we can't have. I've got more to tell you but will post later probably.
GTFO

Post: #11

Thanks for the new sig line, OP

Post: #12

I PMed you some shit, OP

Post: #13

Thanks for all the feedback, really appreciated. The post ended up way too long and I didn't think people would read it but those that did seem to now have a good idea about the type of girl I'm dealing with.

(01-24-2019 04:28 AM)roberto Wrote:  Firstly, she's not a player, she's a slut.

Cut all contact with her. Block her number and don't think about her. I want to call you every kind of beta emotional tampon prick under the sun for wasting so many years of your life, but the first sentence is your only viable action so just take that from this post.

Somehow I doubt you will.

I've already cut contact with her. I did it not so aggressively this time compared to the other times we've cut contact. I told her we can be friends but just friends that don't talk, this way I gave her the validation she was seeking and cut contact so she hopefully doesn't bother me.

(01-24-2019 05:19 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  Right There! To call these type of women sluts is far too simplistic! They've got relatively good looks, a cool let's hang with the boyz vibe, and uncanny intuition in general... but especially with men! I know how deadly these women can be firsthand! As other mentioned... you should absolutely not speak to her at all... but can you? Shit... I think I know the answer to this one!

You're addicted to the cooch... and women similar to her can all feel it! You're probably doing good financially, so these women latch on to you with a tight tight grip. If I was in your position... and had some money saved up... I'd drop the current GF (you were going to anyway if this chick had scooped you up), not speak to Ms. Oneitis... and travel somewhere alone for a good chunk of time to get through this withdrawal feeling that you need to overcome... because that's what it is my friend: an addiction!

If you can't get away... I'd recommend going monk mode for a while. Hopefully you don't have kids & can afford to just focus on you for a bit! Good luck!

Thanks for the sympathy and I think your assessment of her is spot on. I used to call her a slut and all that back in highschool when I wouldn't give her a second glance but I think I've grown out of that. It is too simple to think that she's a slut and sluts just want all dicks. In that case, men are sluts for wanting every hot girl around, there is no difference and no point to simplifying a person that way. I think about what makes her a "slut" and I'm trying to rationalize and understand her behavior however unreasonable it may be.

This girl, as Captain GH puts it, has the good looks, the cool hang-with-the-boys-vibe, and the uncanny intuition for men. So I'm guessing these girls are prevalent in other parts of the world and I wonder what drives them to be this way. Mine has said that she has daddy issues but I don't find them to be major enough to justify her behavior. She has siblings who are much more sane than she is.

I can't go monk mode as I have a job I need to keep but I agree it's an addiction and one I haven't been able to kick in 10+ years. I do forget about her after a while but every time we meet she will be very aggressive and say all the right things about how she regrets never hooking up with me, sleeping with me, etc, and I fall right back in.

(01-24-2019 05:32 AM)Super Average Man Wrote:  This isn't a case of "go meet other girls". You've said you're regularly in relationships, but you break off the relationships in the hope of being with this girl.

That's crazy, man. Your problem is 100% internal. That girl is crack cocaine to you. You need to fight off the addiction. Don't you see how much this infatuation has cost you? You've broken up relationships, probably took a damage to your reputation, all so you could try to get it on with some girl you know to be a slut. And every single time she played you and went on to bang some other dude. Do you have a cuckold fetish?

Quote:how to win the game when the girl is obviously also playing you

The only game you're playing is against yourself. Drop this girl. Quit cold turkey. Stop chasing her. Block her and ignore her when she tries to reconnect. Work on your dignity and self esteem, that's what you're lacking.

She is crack cocaine to me and I've had sleepless nights longing for it. I don't have a cuckold fetish, I want to bust in her ass and face. I'm not sure what more dignity and self-esteem would do for me tbh. I know that both those things are taking a hit when I give in to her bullshit but all I think when I'm with her is that I want to fuck and I need to make that happen so dignity and self-esteem comes second. Now that I've cut contact, sure, I won't be reaching out to her because dignity, self-esteem, and all that.

(01-24-2019 12:26 PM)Batman_ Wrote:  Walking away isn't giving up, nor is it punishment for her - it's for your own sake. She is a parasitic slut who will only bring you down.

This is good and I agree, I did walk away for my own sake. I don't understand why she wants to bring me down, especially when I was at one point her only friend in life. And we really were platonic friends until she said she wanted more, and for what? Just to bring me down?

(01-24-2019 12:00 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Seriously? You could've fucked at least 50 other girls by now in that 10 year span.

LISTEN to Roberto, he has the best advice, BLOCK THIS BITCH AND NEVER TALK TO HER AGAIN.

She's not a friend, she's not a lover, she's a waste of time and she's wasting yours.

Honestly, I have fucked probably over 50 girls within these 10 years but I didn't fuck her and she's the one that counts in my mind. I started reading PUA shit because I was stuck on her, I told myself I'd go fuck other girls and come back to this one. I fucked other girls, still haven't fucked this one.

My question remains: how do I win the game with her? And especially when she says out loud that she wants to fuck, I always think it is bound to happen sometime. I am asking almost hypothetically as I have yet to hear anyone tell me how they would go about trying to win over this kind of psycho bitch. I know that I should walk away and that's what I'd already done, but yeah... hypothetically.

My other question here I guess is, what the hell is she getting out of this? Is validation something girls seek so hard that they would go through all this effort for it?

(01-24-2019 12:53 PM)fmman Wrote:  Anyway, your girl sounds an awful lot like a girl I knew. The difference was I was shagging her, but she didn't want to be together. However the getting me to break up with new gf,'s after I moved on is exactly the same and she didn't break up with her bf when she said she would. It is all a fucking game, and playing it is dangerous. Even after you win, she will still be back for round two so she can screw you over and win in the end, like mine did. I've been there, I know how hard it is when everyone says, forget her she is no good for you. But they are right. We here are all right. I mean bloody hell all this and you haven't laid her jesus. Don't be like me and keep going years with it. I don't speak to her now but she still haunts me, 5 years later. More fool me. She just wants to win you and fuck you around. We always want what we can't have. I've got more to tell you but will post later probably.
GTFO

I'd like to hear more about your girl, she does sound similar in that self-destructive sense.

(01-24-2019 01:15 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  Thanks for the new sig line, OP

Yeah, I'm glad you like the line. What I meant was - I held this belief that things would change if I had just fucked her. That she would be more serious about the relationship as girls tend to be once they fuck. But I doubt that now, I realize that she was just playing me, but I don't understand why. Because validation is so hard to attain? She seemed to have invested so much and put in a whole lot of work just for some validation from me. And now she is satisfied? I find that hard to believe.

Post: #14

(01-25-2019 05:24 AM)Wonitis Wrote:  I've already cut contact with her. I did it not so aggressively this time compared to the other times we've cut contact. I told her we can be friends but just friends that don't talk, this way I gave her the validation she was seeking and cut contact so she hopefully doesn't bother me.

That's weakest lamest line I've ever heard about being friend, that's something a girl would say to a guy after a break up.

That's your problem YOU'RE GIVING her validation, you cut her out of your life, and you

Quote:I used to call her a slut and all that back in highschool when I wouldn't give her a second glance but I think I've grown out of that. It is too simple to think that she's a slut and sluts just want all dicks. In that case, men are sluts for wanting every hot girl around, there is no difference and no point to simplifying a person that way. I think about what makes her a "slut" and I'm trying to rationalize and understand her behavior however unreasonable it may be.

How is that too simple? She literally said she would CHEAT on you and wouldn't be loyal too you and fucked other guys while stringing you along.

You're trying to white wash her history and your hamster is moving at full speed.

That's where your thinking is wrong, no men aren't sluts for wanting every hot girl around, there's a huge difference between a man fucking women versus women fucking men.

"'A key that can open many locks is called a master key, but a lock that can be opened by many keys is a shitty lock."

You need some game biology 101 as a foundation otherwise you're a fool to think we're the same as women.

YOU CANNOT rationalize and understand a woman's behavior, you can indeed prempt it and counter it. Females are irrational period.

Rule of thumb is you don't deal with unreasonable women.

Quote:This girl, as Captain GH puts it, has the good looks, the cool hang-with-the-boys-vibe, and the uncanny intuition for men. So I'm guessing these girls are prevalent in other parts of the world and I wonder what drives them to be this way. Mine has said that she has daddy issues but I don't find them to be major enough to justify her behavior. She has siblings who are much more sane than she is.

The last thing I want is a girl whose "cool with the boys" this is the kind of girl that has a high probability of being passed around the crew, I would know, me and my boys have through a few girls in our social circle and became eskimo buddies. You know what we call those girls?

Homie hopper sluts.

You say she has daddy issues, but you're defending her saying they aren't major enough to justify her behavior.

Reread what you just said, then read it again, how many red flags do you need waving in your face?

Quote:I can't go monk mode as I have a job I need to keep but I agree it's an addiction and one I haven't been able to kick in 10+ years. I do forget about her after a while but every time we meet she will be very aggressive and say all the right things about how she regrets never hooking up with me, sleeping with me, etc, and I fall right back in.

Girl game recognized, she's playing you hard and good saying all the right things....you're literally a girl being gamed by a dude and being strung along.

Think about that for a second, YOU'RE THE GIRL.

Quote:She is crack cocaine to me and I've had sleepless nights longing for it. I don't have a cuckold fetish, I want to bust in her ass and face. I'm not sure what more dignity and self-esteem would do for me tbh. I know that both those things are taking a hit when I give in to her bullshit but all I think when I'm with her is that I want to fuck and I need to make that happen so dignity and self-esteem comes second. Now that I've cut contact, sure, I won't be reaching out to her because dignity, self-esteem, and all that.

Dude you sound like a bitch who got dumped.

You need to stop, undestand your self worth and realize you're better than this.

You're better than her, SHE does not DESERVE you.

Quote:This is good and I agree, I did walk away for my own sake. I don't understand why she wants to bring me down, especially when I was at one point her only friend in life. And we really were platonic friends until she said she wanted more, and for what? Just to bring me down?

Because you're her EMOTIONAL TAMPON, you're Mr. Reliable, always there for her, always there to be her friend, and for her needs.

Never believe what a woman says, only what she actually does.

If she ain't fucking you, but says she wants to fuck you, SHE ISN'T FUCKING YOU.

Quote:Honestly, I have fucked probably over 50 girls within these 10 years but I didn't fuck her and she's the one that counts in my mind. I started reading PUA shit because I was stuck on her, I told myself I'd go fuck other girls and come back to this one. I fucked other girls, still haven't fucked this one.

Good, so then why are you worry about this slut then?

Keep gaming these other girls.

Why would you come back this one?

Let me rewrite your sentence:

"I told myself I'd go fuck other girls and find another one better than this one"

THAT'S what you should be focused on, not coming back, like a dog throwing up and eating it's own puke.

Because that's exactly what you're doing right now, you're on your knees like a bitch, eating your own puke.

Quote:My question remains: how do I win the game with her? And especially when she says out loud that she wants to fuck, I always think it is bound to happen sometime. I am asking almost hypothetically as I have yet to hear anyone tell me how they would go about trying to win over this kind of psycho bitch. I know that I should walk away and that's what I'd already done, but yeah... hypothetically.

Are you deaf? Have you not been listening?

YOU DON'T PLAY HER GAME, YOU TAKE YOUR BALL AND GO HOME.

You don't win with manipulative sluts, THAT'S why you aren't getting any advice on how to "win" this girl.

You'll never win this, you'll never fuck this girl, you need to get rid of her from your life for good.

Quote:My other question here I guess is, what the hell is she getting out of this? Is validation something girls seek so hard that they would go through all this effort for it?

Yes, validation to women is like crack. They live off of it.

She's hardly making any effort, she holds the power dynamic 80% you care, 20% she cares.

Quote:Yeah, I'm glad you like the line. What I meant was - I held this belief that things would change if I had just fucked her. That she would be more serious about the relationship as girls tend to be once they fuck. But I doubt that now, I realize that she was just playing me, but I don't understand why. Because validation is so hard to attain? She seemed to have invested so much and put in a whole lot of work just for some validation from me. And now she is satisfied? I find that hard to believe.

You think shit changes when you fuck a girl?

You're a fool.

You think a solid makeout or fucking on a first date changes things?

You're a fool.

You think sluts get more serious about relationships after they fuck you?

You' re a fool.

Why is she playing you?

Becuase you're a fool, you're easy to manipulate and win over.


She hasn't invested in much compared to you, you literally wrote a long ass post on a random forum, asking random men for advice, about a slut that you're in love with.


Only to get a simple answer you don't like.....

BLOCK HER OUT OF YOUR LIFE AND MOVE THE FUCK ON.

Post: #15

Kaotic is harsh, but pretty much right. I will add in, if you have sex with her, she will still confuse the hell out of you and still blow hot and cold. She will still fuck other guys, she won't get attached to you but you will get more attached to her than you already are.

Yes there are some girls that you should not play against as put beautifully above by Kaotic

Post: #16

I feel you man.

I just went though something similar. I violated every rule of the game. EVERY. SINGLE. RULE. For a slut.

She said she wanted a relationship, and didn't want to just be a hookup. I weighed my options and noticed all the red flags. But I rationalized them all away.

I thought she was different. I envisioned us getting together and doing boyfriend/girlfriend shit. I romanticized my day dreams until the point where they became suffocating.

I'm super direct, it's always seemed to work with me. So I when I became direct with her saying I wanted to take her out and a real date, she turned me down. I figured she needed a bit of a chase, thus I spent two weeks doing everything I always tell people not to do. Multiple texts in a row without a response, needy drunk calls, putting my feelings on show first, etc.

It was a pretty big mind fuck...that girl did a number on me.

It took me two weeks to unfuck my mind and get back to normal. The girl is not a friend. The girl is a straight slut. The slut is toxic and not worthy of my time.

I look back on those two weeks and am EMBARRASSED of my actions. I couldn't imagine putting up with shit for 10 YEARS! For fucks sake dude...

Post: #17

What do you mean when you say she's "also" a player? There are no players in this story. Just a slut and a beta orbiter.

Start with reading The Rational Male, it's a good introduction to red pill material.

Post: #18

Mate listen to Brother Kaotic

Follow his advice. NOW.

Post: #19

You will never fuck this girl. She has zero respect for you. Sounds like you have even less for yourself. Walk the fuck away for good.

Post: #20

Very wise advise from the forum members here, but probably will be useless for you as you continue hipnotized by this sociopathic girl. I think it would be a good idea for you to find a good psychologist (an older guy preferably) who could give you some counseling for a few months while you try to get rid of this addiction. After 10 years, that is what it is, an addiction which is seriously affecting your brain, and it could help you to get some professional assistance.

Post: #21

Dude...you just put more work into just extrapolating about this bitch here than I did in probably the last 30 woman I've fucked.

Let it GO for the love of any remaining testosterone and dignity in you man!

".....I told her we can be friends but just friends that don't talk, this way I gave her the validation she was seeking and cut contact so she hopefully doesn't bother me."


Umm. No. Fuck No. This, right here... means you need to cut it off with past, present and future women and do alittle reading about ohhh basic biology ...and alot of reading here.

"It is too simple to think that she's a slut and sluts just want all dicks. In that case, men are sluts for wanting every hot girl around, there is no difference and no point to simplifying a person that way....."

....unless your into self flagellation, YOU said all you need to KNOW about this chick who gives no shit about you and yet hoes like the girls we all have had and know to be the type that's admittedly fun (for every guy other than you...) to fuck..but ya DON'T gf or wife 'em up!

"Mine has said that she has daddy issues but I don't find them to be major enough to justify her behaviors.... "


Hard words but you need the help man.

edit: Kaotic beat me to it

Post: #22

OP you are getting played hard by some one with a lot more experience in the game than you. the girl is so good at putting you in your feelings because she has practiced doing it many many times on many many guys.

Post: #23

(01-24-2019 03:45 AM)Wonitis Wrote:  This is a case of 10+ years of oneitis, I've had relationships in between and am in one right now, but this crazy bitch has always been in the back of my mind throughout all the years and she comes to the forefront every now and again. I need to do something as it's not healthy for my psyche. I've cut her off for maybe 3 weeks now and still can't stop thinking about her and I'm supposed to be a grown ass man in a relationship.

I'm not one for giving someone a random string of dissing expletives. It doesn't help the situation.
Look on the bright side, you've had a rude awakening. But you weren't divorce raped, you weren't given AIDS, you didn't pay for someone else's baby til 18, she didn't fit you up for rape etc etc etc.

I don't like the word, but basically she bullied you for years. She saw someone who was trusting IN THE WRONG WAY, someone who was gullible and easy to exploit. It happens to lots of people. Don't worry about the past.

Because you were easy, she didn't want you at all. If you were harder, you may have been a random fuck. But she'd have fucked you over anyway. She's far worse than a "slut". Because she specialises in harming lives, not sucking dick.

Personally, I'd have just caused her a load of harm as revenge after any first shitty stunt.
But karma will likely fuck her shitty life up sooner or later anyway.

A fillet steak with 1% poison isn't 99% steak. Its just poison.
SAME WITH HOES!!

Now's the time to take control of your life. Try NLP and hypnosis, focussing on fitness, new hobbies and meeting decent people. You can meet dozens of people. If they cause doubt, cast them off and laugh. You can only put your dick in one hoe at once. Find one (or more!) worth your time. Good luck!

Post: #24

OPs initial story has to be the worst case of blueball/cockblocking I've read in a while.

People would pay good money to have a guy like Kaotic break down and give detailed consultation on a case like yours. I would heed his advice.

My take? Some people are like tragic figures in a Russian Novel, they are just inexplicably, irrationally drawn to craziness in one aspect when all other things are going well.

This sounds like an addiction. Like a gambling addition where you are chasing the dragon and losing literally years of your life. No reason, just something about your personality and this "challenge" that gives you a deprecating thrill.

What if you did bang her and it was literally the most amazing sex of your life? Like so good that you just had to have it again?

That happened to me once. Girl blew my fucking mind. 19 year old go-go dancer. The good Lord sure humbled me in that situation. Can't believe how utterly pathetic I acted. I didn't lose too much time, but far, far too much. Now I wouldn't waste a few hours on a girl like that.

Honestly OP, you need to just get out of this situation, as in geographically. Move away. Leave. Go on a trip at least. Out of sight out of mind - it works. Get the compulsive gambler away from casinos, get the alcoholic away from the bars, and you get away from this woman. No bad or negative thoughts, just get away. 10 years OP. You have a problem.

Good luck and God Speed.

Post: #25

The best cure for oneitis

is New Pussy