Post: #1

This is a theory I've been working on for a while. It will hopefully attempt to answer two big nightlife questions I've had for a while.

1. Why do many groups of girls, drink, dance, talk to a bunch of guys, reject them all and leave? Is no guy good enough for them? Don't they want to hook up with someone?

2. Why is it so easy to hook up on vacation, but quite challenging back home?

Keep in mind, this is a generalization. There are no 100 percent rules in this game. (There will always be some hookups going on.)

First, it is no secret that generally, guys go out to get laid, while women go out for drinks, attention, and an ego boost. The attention whore type girl is famous for that. But what always puzzled me is the huge quantity of guys that they would reject. Some were some really good looking tall buff young dudes. Other groups of girls just seem uninterested in meeting men period. Are they lesbian? Do they not have needs too?

I believe it's due to texting and the "booty text." That girl that flirted with, took drinks from, and rejected several guys doesn't need any of them. She also doesn't need to look like a slut by going home with one of them. Like any decent looking girl, she has at least one FB or ex-BF's number stored in her phone.

So she can get into the venue free (usually), have guys buy her drinks, dance lesbian with her GFs, and get a huge ego boost by rejecting a bunch of guys. Then, when she gets home with her buzz still on (that the bar/club dudes paid for), she'll booty text her FB and have him come over to bang.

It's a win-win for her. She has a fun evening out and can still have hot sex in the end if she desires. Why go home with some strange dude that could be dangerous, a creeper, or bad in the sack? Why not stick with a guy she knows is good in the sack and she's comfortable with? And she can text him after her GFs drop her off for the evening, so nobody is the wiser. This eliminates the "looking like a slut" concern.

So back to my other question, why is it easier to score on vacation than back home? Certainly people feel less inhibited on vacation. But more importantly, when she is away from home, she doesn't have access to her FBs at home. If she wants to get laid on vacation, she has to find a guy there to hook up with.

So while all the rejected guys at the end of the night are scratching their heads asking themselves the following questions:

1. Where did I go wrong? That chick was so into me.
2. Did I forget to neg or not stack enough routines?
3. Do I need to hit the gym?

You have to realize that to some extent, the game may be rigged. A lot of girls may have no intention of hooking up at the bar or club. They just want to party. When they want sex at the end of the night, they can order it faster than a pizza by sending a booty text to a guy they're already fucking.

Thoughts?

Post: #2

Great Paul Janka interview on why he dislikes nightclubs:

K: I want to bash American nightclubs (the exception is if you are a great dancer - go there to display your skill.) Nightclubs are all about Submission: guest list, line, drinks line, cover charge, coat check, toilet-person tip, costly drinks and tips. DJ's, promoters and bouncers control everyone. As a favor, “the Sage” did an entire podcast blasting US nightclubs as potentially damaging to the ego of a man.

PJ: Nightclubs and bars have too few women, and too many average-looking women. Too many men. I let loose at one recently, with A-Game, yet these low-rated women resisted me. Huge “push-back,” huge egos, they get on cloud nine in clubs. A man with eyes would walk by these women, but there, that night, I can't get attraction! At 3 pm in a coffee shop, I can rap and get a number in 90 seconds, and get a “booking” follow-up call. She'll return my text and agree to meet for a date.

K: Conditions and context - the environment. Where and when you meet often trumps everything else, and sets her state and defenses.

PJ: I agree. The problem with nightclubs: cattle treatment. You wait in line like a criminal, you overpay for drinks, and you might get drink-hustled. With their women pals, they sometimes are unavailable to engage. They are only there to give men the “tease treatment,” from what one girl I dated told me. At 3 am, she would leave the club and her pals, and come over to get sex. She had a “sex guy” in her back pocket—me—and no use for what she called “Club Guys.” In their world, “be fabulous, be a rock starlet.” Worst of all, men must be competitive with other men, even fight, while women skip lines and pay nothing. I've worked both bars and clubs a lot. I know. K

http://www.cliffslist.com/node/536

Post: #3

Thanks for the copy/paste job spinaroonie

Post: #4

(07-02-2012 12:26 AM)Locke Wrote:  Thanks for the copy/paste job spinaroonie

What does "Spinaroonie" mean?

And what is an "AW?"

I need to understand this jargon.

Aloha!

Post: #5

(07-02-2012 12:50 AM)Kona Wrote:  

(07-02-2012 12:26 AM)Locke Wrote:  Thanks for the copy/paste job spinaroonie

What does "Spinaroonie" mean?

And what is an "AW?"

I need to understand this jargon.

Aloha!

spinaroonie is the nickname he used to copy and paste this on other messageboards a million times before including this one.

Post: #6

(07-02-2012 12:55 AM)Locke Wrote:  

(07-02-2012 12:50 AM)Kona Wrote:  

(07-02-2012 12:26 AM)Locke Wrote:  Thanks for the copy/paste job spinaroonie

What does "Spinaroonie" mean?

And what is an "AW?"

I need to understand this jargon.

Aloha!

spinaroonie is the nickname he used to copy and paste this on other messageboards a million times before including this one.

I see. Someone should call Tuthmosis.

What does "AW" mean, Average Woman, American Woman?

Aloha!

Post: #7

1. Paul Janka troll
2. Previously banned member

Post: #8

That was fast Tuth. On high alert today I see.

Post: #9

(07-02-2012 01:54 AM)durangotang Wrote:  That was fast Tuth. On high alert today I see.

See somebody called him. He handles it.

Aloha!

Post: #10

What's a Paul Janka troll ?

Post: #11

Hell, this guy was writing some interesting stuff. Can we give him a second chance?

Post: #12

I met a chick at a club while I was on vacation once. She was an HB8 about 26 years old. She approached me. Her IL was sky high. We danced i.e. grinded (face to face) for a while, had a few drinks, etc. But the problem was that she came in with her mom. Her mom was in the club watching the dance floor so we couldn't really make out or get too hot and heavy. Pulling her (the girl not the mom lol) from the club was out of the question. I got her number instead.

I called her the next day. I was able to get her to meet me at a bar. But she had gone cold. The conversation was a bunch of one word answers. The "club high" was gone. The date went nowhere.

Looking back, I should have texted her later the same night. A "Hey what are doing right now?" probably would have been sufficient. She probably would have found a way to get away from her mom for a while to meet me. I could well have hooked up with her. I'm still kicking myself.

This principle is solid when the obstacles are friends too. Sometimes you just CAN'T isolate her from her friend(s). So yes, take the number and TEXT HER THE SAME NIGHT.

Or even if it's not an obstacle problem, after her clubbing night is over, she may well be open for "more entertainment."

This ties in with the other theory that a lot of girls don't actually hook up via one night stands FROM the bar/club. The go to the club to AW, drink, and have fun. They reject a sh*tload of guys at the club/bar. Then they go home, text their ex or FB and have him come over and F her. The after party is at her place lol. This way she gets layed without her friends knowing. Thus, she can't be called a sl*t for leaving with a guy. She gets her secret hookup at the end of the night or more like very early morning.

Well, if you get her number and text her, theres is a chance that YOU can be Mr. After Party. There are no guarantees in this game, but it's probably better than trying to meet up several days later.

Post: #13

(07-02-2012 01:40 PM)Juan Antonio Wrote:  I met a chick at a club while I was on vacation once. She was an HB8 about 26 years old. She approached me. Her IL was sky high. We danced i.e. grinded (face to face) for a while, had a few drinks, etc. But the problem was that she came in with her mom. Her mom was in the club watching the dance floor so we couldn't really make out or get too hot and heavy. Pulling her (the girl not the mom lol) from the club was out of the question. I got her number instead.

I called her the next day. I was able to get her to meet me at a bar. But she had gone cold. The conversation was a bunch of one word answers. The "club high" was gone. The date went nowhere.

Looking back, I should have texted her later the same night. A "Hey what are doing right now?" probably would have been sufficient. She probably would have found a way to get away from her mom for a while to meet me. I could well have hooked up with her. I'm still kicking myself.

This principle is solid when the obstacles are friends too. Sometimes you just CAN'T isolate her from her friend(s). So yes, take the number and TEXT HER THE SAME NIGHT.

Or even if it's not an obstacle problem, after her clubbing night is over, she may well be open for "more entertainment."

This ties in with the other theory that a lot of girls don't actually hook up via one night stands FROM the bar/club. The go to the club to AW, drink, and have fun. They reject a sh*tload of guys at the club/bar. Then they go home, text their ex or FB and have him come over and F her. The after party is at her place lol. This way she gets layed without her friends knowing. Thus, she can't be called a sl*t for leaving with a guy. She gets her secret hookup at the end of the night or more like very early morning.

Well, if you get her number and text her, theres is a chance that YOU can be Mr. After Party. There are no guarantees in this game, but it's probably better than trying to meet up several days later.

I had a similar experience she was with her sister(she was a 0/10) and I couldn't really isolate well. I got her number when she was hot for me, she even begged me to text her and I felt for sure this would be a bang. Waited until after the weekend, texted her and she was cold. Strike while the iron is hot as the clique goes.

Post: #14

Quote:2. Why is it so easy to hook up on vacation, but quite challenging back home?

I wanted to weigh in on this one. I've noticed that when in a nice tropical beach resort area where a lot of the natives work on the beach, they pretty much have access to all the tourist pussy and it would seem that they have it so much easier than other tourists trying to get laid.

Post: #15

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