Post: #26

(06-02-2013 12:32 AM)JamesJoyceLoveLetter Wrote:  I .......had a couple of very bad experiences with women at a fairly young age, which caused me to sublimate my feelings and desires into a talent rather than spend much time or energy on women.
.............what would I do if there were no women in the world? ....

+1 rep for great point about holistic view of life , vividly illustrative story for your view, and, you know, thinking and stuff.

Post: #27

Your are posting this thread on the wrong forum.

Post: #28

I think its because you need more than sex/fun in your life.

Ideally you should have a larger purpose, whether it be your business, spirituality, writing, art, etc.

Post: #29

(06-05-2013 03:03 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  Chasing pussy is redundant.

+1. I also have an extremely low boredom threshold when it comes to girls. Some guys like easy targets, and that’s fine for them. Personally I find it boring ...... I guess that I've had WAY too many girls already. Average (7's and 7.5's) and easy girls are available all day, everyday, everywhere, ad nauseum. Don’t get me wrong, they can be pretty, sexy, fun ….. but average. Sex is such a foregone conclusion, that it becomes almost anti-climatic. All this game routine (and the sex ensuing) is like playing a video game over and over and over again on the easiest level. Yawn, snooze…

I now only go for the “high value target”, even if it means, when I'm in a new city, ten days without sex. Booze is there to compensate ))

Post: #30

Exactly. Pushing your limits will help you stay in the game longer. Banging an average chicks provides immediate satisfaction, but once your ball sack is drained, you lose the will to chase more. I too will go days without sex, porn, and masturbating to stay on the hunt.

Right now I'm pushing back into the 8-9 range, and am enjoying it cause I'm not always "on", so I'll take the oasis when it comes around. Just started a job that going to put me on the road most of the time, so I've been stepping up my game. 4-5 days in a new city is hard to pull quality. Fuck.

Post: #31

(06-03-2013 01:59 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  What is this "Tantra" that you speak of? I've never heard of it..?

Well, tantra in the strictist sense of the word is an eastern philosophical system that involves being involved in the world and taking sex very seriously as a religious pracise.

In west, it mean something along the lines of "spiritual sex". I have explored this world somewhat and many of my friends have explored it a lot. I think these people can be a lot more sleazy, less onto it and less humble than a lot of "the seduction community" Good people/workshops can be found however, and it can be very powerful stuff.

The only teacher I'm at all interested in is Shantam Nityama (check out the video of him giving a woman an orgasm with his hands)

http://www.nityama.com/blog‎

Post: #32

(06-05-2013 08:41 AM)tiggaling Wrote:  The only teacher I'm at all interested in is Shantam Nityama (check out the video of him giving a woman an orgasm with his hands)

http://www.nityama.com/blog‎

Nityama bodywork looks really interesting. One of the speakers at the Morten Hake summit in 2011 (I think) was Sasha Cobra, who is a Nityama bodywork practitioner. You can search her on Youtube there are some cool vids of her up. She even has an interview with the London Daygame crew.

It's great to see some of the East penetrating into the West. The seduction community at its best is all about giving men and women practical tools to enjoy each other (and life) better. And while the West poured its genius into industry and production, the East has been developing some very powerful and very pragmatic "inner" technologies for thousands of years that most Westerners dismiss a priori as pseudoscientific.

But...small steps :-)

Edit: a video of Nityama bodywork in practice

Post: #33

(05-31-2013 05:42 PM)browserbowser Wrote:  What do you do when you are bored of the game, but society is set up so that it's the only game in town?

Build another game.

When you're a teen into your 20s, you backdraft on what social circles others have built. Sometime in your 20s and later, "society" is you, and you're now in charge.

You're being reactive to what's already there. Instead, be proactive and build what you want. Even if it's just committing to reading one book with some other people, then going to brunch at the end of the month to talk about it afterwards.

Hold parties, cookouts, bike rides, wine-after-dinner, come up with some once-a-month event thing that you enjoy but is missing from where you live. Make an effort to do that once a month and invite people to it.

You have two levels of screening --those that you want in your bed, and those good enough to fit in your circle. You find a couple guys you like and share the pool with them. Ideally you all are pulling fresh faces in. You start discovering other people doing this and you flip invites --I'll come to your event if you come to mine.

There's levels above this in terms of building new social circles. None of it is expensive. Just keep it light and easy.

The only skill you need to learn is how to be a host and enforce your house rules. Don't want people texting on phones instead of interacting with others? It's your rule: no texting at your parties. There's an art to gently correcting guests in a way that is low drama, doesn't break the party spirit, and doesn't ruffle feathers. But it's part of learning to be the alpha male in the room.

Post: #34

I was in school for most of my 20's and while my notch count is only a third of yours, that time has taken its toll. I'm quite happy to settle into the professional 30's role, grow other areas of my life and just do serial monogamy. I'm also not a pessimist and believe there are still many good women out there who make good partners. Get out of the bars and day game to find yourself a decent broad.

Post: #35

(06-05-2013 01:04 PM)Gator_McKlusky Wrote:  I'm also not a pessimist and believe there are still many good women out there who make good partners. Get out of the bars and day game to find yourself a decent broad.

problem is can you tame the notch hound inside regardless of your partner's esteemed credentials.

Post: #36

Yes, it does get old. You feel like you are working for something you value much less. It's like having a favorite movie that you have watched too many times.

Some guys go to prostitutes, other guys settle into relationships, others go for easy kills, others pursue a game like flagging to keep their behavior going, but to retain high level of energy for cold approaching on a weekly basis for over 10 years is not common. You'll always be using "game" to a degree, but it will shift.

What's interesting is that the famous PUAs have NOT chronicled their decline from game peak and how they dealt with this fatigue or burnout. I'm going through it now to some degree, and I will have much to share in the future. The bottom line is that intense activity in anything cannot be sustained, whether game, or a sport, or a hobby, etc. There is a natural curve to any pursuit where it goes from being the number one concern in your life to something that's done on a lower level.

Post: #37

What doesn't get old: quality women, women who you have great chemistry with. These are the only women I am really interested in. For good sex you need to pick women that really enjoy it and are good at it. In my experience, it's like finding someone that really good at anything, few women are. In all three cases, you will be lucky if you meet three of these women in a year.

Post: #38

(06-06-2013 09:45 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Yes, it does get old.... There is a natural curve to any pursuit where it goes from being the number one concern in your life to something that's done on a lower level.

I am 49.

So my advice... even if you get game fatigue, never ever lose game. Whether or not you think you are, you are in the game for the rest of your life. Like it or not.

After you figure out how to get what you want from women, the trick is figuring out what you want and then using game to get it and keep it. That is even true, especially true of family and kids.

Keep your game tight, even if it is a background task.

Post: #39

Quote:Keep your game tight, even if it is a background task.

I completely agree. Just because poosy is not #1 in your life, doesn't mean you should lose all skill and be helpless when it comes to getting laid.

Post: #40

I'm going to address this problem by just trying to game hotter girls and quit wasting my time on mediocre ones.. If I go on many less dates and have many less notches, so be it. I'll use my time in other ways.

Unfortunately there is a lot of bullshit, headaches and flakiness that comes with dealing with the very hottest girls so I'm not sure if this plan is going to work out either..

Post: #41

Yep, you just trade one set of problems for another. What I tell men is that you don't get to chose whether you have to deal with problems or not just the type of problems. Regardless of the type of women you chose in America they will have problems. The only question becomes what kind of problems you want to deal with.

Post: #42

Now that I am slightly bored with chasing pussy, I want to help other guys get bored with chasing pussy.

I think that getting bored with chasing pussy is an important step in a mans life.

It allows us to focus on the next big challenge.

Post: #43

Many guys get tired of chasing for the wrong reasons: being afraid of rejection, lack of success, fearing social sanctions, trying to follow the trend imposed by society...

For a reasonably successful player, I guess the killing instinct will always be there... Then everything just works in cycles...

What happens with me usually is, when I'm committed, I take a break - when it's impossible to control my impulses, I just break up and restart my bachelor life, meaning chasing girls on a weekly basis (and pipelining, etc, on a daily basis). So apparently I cannot get tired of fresh pussy after all, ahah

I believe it was Tuthmosis the first guy talking here about this concept of "mini relations". I think it can work quite nicely in order for a player to balance his life from time to time (despite the usual downsides of breaking up)

Post: #44

Drained out and tired of the game
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Post: #45

I wouldn't recommend having women as your number 1 priority in life. You need hobbies and other things going on or you'll go crazy. I've gotten more pussy than most guys ever will and I'm still a younger guy. Free pussy will always be around as long as you take care of your body and self.

Post: #46

(06-05-2013 07:19 AM)Prosal Wrote:  I guess that I've had WAY too many girls already. Average (7's and 7.5's) and easy girls are available all day, everyday, everywhere, ad nauseum. Don’t get me wrong, they can be pretty, sexy, fun ….. but average. Sex is such a foregone conclusion, that it becomes almost anti-climatic. All this game routine (and the sex ensuing) is like playing a video game over and over and over again on the easiest level. Yawn, snooze…

(06-09-2013 03:40 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Now that I am slightly bored with chasing pussy, I want to help other guys get bored with chasing pussy.

I think that getting bored with chasing pussy is an important step in a mans life.

It allows us to focus on the next big challenge.

(06-16-2013 01:47 PM)houston Wrote:  I've gotten more pussy than most guys ever will and I'm still a younger guy. Free pussy will always be around as long as you take care of your body and self.

I seriously envy you guys, and guys like you, damn.

Post: #47

At this point the game is relatively boring now. I have been on a ridiculous heater and my new realization is I need to aim for 9's.

After you smash a bunch of 6-7.5's or whatever you want to call them you get tired of it. The issue is it costs more money to bang higher quality chicks, and I don't want to spend money on chicks because I know my money will go much further abroad. So pretty much a. First world problem.

The guys I've met with high notch counts all seem to be at this same level of thinking.

1) you have no idea how many girls you have banged
2) you no longer want to sacrifice anything for women
3) you have fun training new players
4) you have zero insecurity issues because you truly deep down don't give a shit

So I can either drop more money and aim for the amazing looking girls or I can keep a few extra grand a month in the bank. As for now I am choosing to keep the few extra grand and am working on ways to pick up the hotter ones without going high end. I think I've found a solution but I haven't had much success yet but if I do I will post it all here on the RVF.

For fun 2013 CPN is $72.50 so far and I'm averaging abt 3 new girls a month. I don't count repeat bangs in CPN. Quality actually went up as well thanks to SA game.

Post: #48

Got bored with pulling new broads so decided to settle down with a GF.

Now the GF is pissing me off with the typical games they play, reminding me why I don't do relationships.

So, back to pulling new broads I guess.