Post: #26

(06-03-2013 10:50 AM)inostranec Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 07:23 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  Long story short: i have been chatting through FB for some time with a british girl that from her photos seems beautiful, and she is kind of interested in me ( bullshit like "oh its like i have know you my whole life!") Question is, would it be worth to travel all the way to britain from america for just meeting the girl and see what comes out?
am i being a pussy?

Man when i read this thread I saw myself 10 years ago... Young and desperate...

Another good question to ask yourself, is are you doing this from a position of strength or a position of weakness?

(A great question to always ask yourself before making a decision you are unsure of).

My guess is that it is from a position of weakness. But only you can answer that one.

Post: #27

(06-03-2013 10:37 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 07:23 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  Long story short: i have been chatting through FB for some time with a british girl that from her photos seems beautiful, and she is kind of interested in me ( bullshit like "oh its like i have know you my whole life!")

If this truly was one of those rare, once in a lifetime deep connections you couldn't pass up on, I'd say do it. But you say the girl is "kind of" interested in you. That doesn't sound very assuring. If I was in your shoes and I thought the girl liked me beyond "kind of", then I'd tell her to meet me halfway in a different place for a vacation. Like say Montreal. If she's willing to fly out as well then you know she's serious.

This is exactly what I was thinking in my earlier comment, that way you take away the big home field advantage she has and it makes you look less desperate.
I would say that you have a friend who will be in X country and you will be there, you would like to see her and she should make her way.

Post: #28

(06-03-2013 10:53 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 10:50 AM)inostranec Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 07:23 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  Long story short: i have been chatting through FB for some time with a british girl that from her photos seems beautiful, and she is kind of interested in me ( bullshit like "oh its like i have know you my whole life!") Question is, would it be worth to travel all the way to britain from america for just meeting the girl and see what comes out?
am i being a pussy?

Man when i read this thread I saw myself 10 years ago... Young and desperate...

Another good question to ask yourself, is are you doing this from a position of strength or a position of weakness?

(A great question to always ask yourself before making a decision you are unsure of).

My guess is that it is from a position of weakness. But only you can answer that one.

Guys i didnt expect to create such a discussed thread
Well first some thoughts:
- I have never been to england before, as a matter of fact i have only been to 5 countries in
europe, so i guess this would be a great opportunity to travel to new countries beside the british islands.
- The girl doesnt have the resources to come to america.(when i say america is latin america to be more specific).
- I have the money and resources to burn some cash, so money wouldnt be a problem.(hell you only live once, if you have the money to burn, burn it!)
- I completely agree that its insane to just travel for the girl. on the other hand, if i travel to europe one of my missions would be to meet this girl regarding if it ends on pussy smash or not...

So i would say to refocus the trip, not just to "i want to fuck pussy desesperately with this one and only one girl" to "i want to live and experience new places, cultures and women in europe" ...
Thank you guys for your thoughts

Post: #29

(06-03-2013 11:10 AM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  So i would say to refocus the trip, not just to "i want to fuck pussy desesperately with this one and only one girl" to "i want to live and experience new places, cultures and women in europe" ...

Post: #30

Why are you trying to bang girls of FB? That's my only question.

And if you are plowing through local pussy via Facebook please provide us with a data sheet.

Post: #31

(06-03-2013 11:24 AM)The Patriarch Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 11:10 AM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  So i would say to refocus the trip, not just to "i want to fuck pussy desesperately with this one and only one girl" to "i want to live and experience new places, cultures and women in europe" ...

Well, "i want to live and experience new places, cultures and women in europe" is a little different question than the original question.

Now you are asking a forum whose focus is about traveling and swooping girls if you should go travel and swoop girls.

Post: #32

(06-03-2013 11:32 AM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  Why are you trying to bang girls of FB? That's my only question.

And if you are plowing through local pussy via Facebook please provide us with a data sheet.

I'm not trying to bang girls through FB. This girl contacted me through couchsurfing when she traveled to latin america. I couldn't meet her here because i traveled to other countries during the same dates of her trip. We kept contact and now we are talking just through FB...

Post: #33

(06-03-2013 10:53 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 10:50 AM)inostranec Wrote:  

(06-02-2013 07:23 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  Long story short: i have been chatting through FB for some time with a british girl that from her photos seems beautiful, and she is kind of interested in me ( bullshit like "oh its like i have know you my whole life!") Question is, would it be worth to travel all the way to britain from america for just meeting the girl and see what comes out?
am i being a pussy?

Man when i read this thread I saw myself 10 years ago... Young and desperate...

Another good question to ask yourself, is are you doing this from a position of strength or a position of weakness?

(A great question to always ask yourself before making a decision you are unsure of).

My guess is that it is from a position of weakness. But only you can answer that one.

I did this myself. And I am ashamed of it.

Post: #34

Are you considering this because you aren't getting laid at home?

I'm guessing that's the case, otherwise I'm not sure why you would want to go overseas for 1 girl...especially one that you don't know intimately, or much at all.

Spend more time gaming girls in your hometown, and if she wants to come visit you, then you can accept.

Post: #35

I think it's better to ilustrate this with some practical cases...

Last year I chatted for some time with a Russian girl and we agreed to meet in a neutral country in EE, since there were not direct flights to her city. I suggested that she would travel by car for around 4 hours to meet me, we would share apartment expenses. She agreed.

The stated purpose of the trip was for us to meet, but I calculated that the likelihood of something more happening should be of around 70% (if this is something possible to calculate at all).

And indeed, I arrived at 22.00 pm at the airport, went for dinner with her, had some drinks, came back to the apartment and was banging her a short time afterwards.

She was surely DTF if she was committed to make an investment in terms of driving 4 hours and spending gas plus apartment costs. And this was coherent with her attitude as well. Finally, I was psychologically prepared for "failure", since I knew she would be a good company and the city - where I would only spend 3 days - had some very interesting highlights. I was also conscious that from the beginning this was the implicit message I was giving to her: I am coming for some good time but I am far from being desperate.

This being said... I think there are some few differences in my case:

- Low cost of the trip;
- Our chat involved some 3 to 4 sessions in skype where I could confirm that she was indeed flirty (though the language was never of a physical or sexual nature - I'm not against this but it's not my style);
- She was contacting me all the time, like almost every day for some time;
- The trip from Lisbon to this city was a bit expensive (some 400 €), so I decided to book a trip to Paris in order to see a long date friend and visit the city - some cultural stuff. Only afterwards I would have this detour in the other EE city, which would cost me some extra € 200;
- It was a new city to me, with some interesting stuff to visit.

So this all worked well and I was not even in love with the girl, but I knew I would have lots of fun with her for sure.

Another example, I started talking in facebook with a Colombian girl, who invited me to visit her. She was definitely hot (9 in 10, trust me), but did not seem to have an interesting personality, lived in a secondary and non relevant city of Colombia and the trip would cost me some € 600. I did not accept...

I think these experiences show that:

- Although normally it's not a good idea, sometimes it makes sense to travel in order to see a girl;
- It's a good idea to suggest meeting in an alternative town where you can both fly/drive to cheaply, in order to confirm commitment;
- In this context, it makes sense to book an apartment that you can share with her - it's a problem if things don't go well but significantly increases chances of success;
- It's fundamental to talk with her in skype more than one time in order to test her and confirm if she looks as good as in the photos;
- It's fundamental not to be very romantic, but rather have a cool and non desperate vibe.

Post: #36

I like this "meeting in a neutral country" thing, on paper.

But how realistic is it?

Has anyone actually done it?

I am having a hard time grasping a fly girl doing this with a guy she has never meet and only conversed with over the internet.

I mean surely she has suitors down the street and even if you are The G, there has to be some decent guys willing to hang out with her where she doesn't have to drop $1000 on a flight and go on some blind meeting in a strange country, right?

Not saying it isn't possible, but this stuff is kind of bordering on the bizarre isn't it?

But maybe I am just old-school.

Post: #37

Skype dude, Skype!

Get her on Skype to get a clearer idea of what
a) she looks like without photoshop.
b) what she actually has going on in her head when she does not have an hour or two to reply to a question.

If you still want to go for it after that then sure why not but before dropping a cool grand on this woman you need to know it's 'on' on some level.

I did this once. I flew to Belarus to meet a girl I had met briefly in another country. Ended up marrying her and having a kid together ( I'm staying in her house as we speak : )). I had however met her briefly before my Minsk trip and so knew that things were going to go in a certain direction. To fly totally blind is a whole other ball game.

Post: #38

Totally agree with G's post. Man, you're lucky you found this forum before making your own mistakes. There was no shit like this around back when I was faced with these decisions for the first time. A lot of the experienced players became that way through straight up trial and error (read: failure).

Don't ever travel to see a girl you haven't already fucked yet. Only do so if you are going to see her city anyway and/or it has girls you would be interested in. This is pretty much limited to first-tier cities for the most part. Like if you're going to London and that's where she is, then sure, hit her up. But go to London because you want to see London. She can be a factor but not THE factor.

Because ultimately if a girl really, really wants you, she'll go out of her way to meet you on your turf.

Post: #39

Hell No.

I won't travel more then 20-25 minutes to meet a girl, unless I know she is eager for my cock.

If its more then a 30 minute drive, I would rather jerk off and watch tv.

Post: #40

(06-03-2013 03:24 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Hell No.

I won't travel more then 20-25 minutes to meet a girl, unless I know she is eager for my cock.

If its more then a 30 minute drive, I would rather jerk off and watch tv.

Gio, you would be f*cked if you lived in LA!

You do have a strong point though which highlights the ridiculousness (don't mean that in a "mean" way) of this thread.

I don't travel at all to meet girls. I never do.

There are 5-7 dope restaurants and hotel bars that are a three block walk from my crib. Probably 10-12 in a 5 block walk.

I have all girls meet me at one of those joints to start my dates.

But this is the advantage of tight logistics and living in an ideal/ desirable location.

All girls in my current city want to go out where I live.

Post: #41

You said money is no problem right? As in - purchasing a flight would be a drop in that hat that you wouldn't think twice about?

In that case, I would get her on webcam and get her naked and then go to London and have fun.

Make sure she knows you are going there to fuck her. Send her a message saying:

"hey just grabbing some stuff for the trip, you aren't allergic to latex, are you?"

Post: #42

(06-03-2013 03:38 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Gio, you would be f*cked if you lived in LA!

You know me better then that!

If I lived in LA, I would live within a few blocks of UCLA.

I would have thousands of cuties within walking distance!

Ideally, right across the street from the dorms and student housing. I hear there is a Whole Foods right across the street!

Post: #43

a stunning British girl.........those words do not go together too often !

Post: #44

(06-03-2013 03:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(06-03-2013 03:38 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Gio, you would be f*cked if you lived in LA!

You know me better then that!

If I lived in LA, I would live within a few blocks of UCLA.

I would have thousands of cuties within walking distance!

Ideally, right across the street from the dorms and student housing. I hear there is a Whole Foods right across the street!

There is plenty of talent at the upscale supermarkets in los angeles: Gelson's, Bristol Farms, even Trader Joe's. Also, Vicente Foods is a goldmine.

Back on topic, OP, no don't go all that way just for 1 blind date. I don't think anyone is saying "don't travel". Of course travelling is good.

And yes, if you want to make sure she is not a man, get her on skype and make her show you her pussy. Otherwise you can always say "how do I know you aren't a man?"

Post: #45

No, hell no.

It is not even about the money, it is super lame to go meet a girl, all the way in europe. Spend more time on the forum, listen to senior members and start chasing girls where you live. If there are not hot women where you live, plan to move to another city or country.

Post: #46

Go to Europe.

But not to England. And certainly not for some chick.

Post: #47

Post: #48

I've been in your shoes man. Here's my $0.02.

During my socially awkward freshman year in the US, I would Skype with some German girls - stripteases included. My first semester was rough as an international student, particularly the girls after dating Russians - so I resorted to the net. They were willing to meet me anywhere around Europe. I didn't go since I lacked the discipline to save and courage to execute as a naive 18 year old, plus I held a shitty passport.

If you have the desire and ability to see Europe, do so on your own terms. She shouldn't be the focus of your trip but an added value, think a solid pipeline lead. Have other girls lined up, If you do what Scotty did, sure there may be the cliched ending; or it could be a Fiona. At the end of the day, its your call. Props on the fly British girl by the way, those are hard to come by.
Also, if your game isn't tight, work on that first locally, otherwise you're just burning cash.

Post: #49

(06-03-2013 02:24 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I like this "meeting in a neutral country" thing, on paper.

But how realistic is it?

Has anyone actually done it?

I am having a hard time grasping a fly girl doing this with a guy she has never meet and only conversed with over the internet.

I mean surely she has suitors down the street and even if you are The G, there has to be some decent guys willing to hang out with her where she doesn't have to drop $1000 on a flight and go on some blind meeting in a strange country, right?

Not saying it isn't possible, but this stuff is kind of bordering on the bizarre isn't it?

But maybe I am just old-school.

I assume you live somewhere in US and you're able to find cool girls in your area or nearby... So travelling to another country from US in order to find a girl indeed may sound much more odd than to me.

In Europe you can fly almost everywhere from € 100 to € 300, so it can make a bit more of sense. And since I'm living in Lisbon (aka "pussy hell"), I can be a bit more open than you in relation to the delights of Eastern Europe, for example.

I have travelled only once to visit this Russian girl (hot and interesting girl, low trip costs, interesting venue) but I would not do it as a routine... Prefer to pipeline foreign girls or meet them (tourists, erasmus, etc) in the street / bars in my own city. Lots of talent here, too.

And in countries like Russia or Poland, it may very well happen that a good looking girl cannot find interesting guys to meet. And most girls there start to feel very desperate at a young age (say 25 years old) to meet a decent guy.

Post: #50

To the OP: How old are you?

If you are young (early 20s or younger), you can come to Europe as an Au-Pair for a short term (< 1 year). Its not unheard of for families to have male au-pairs. And I don't have to tell you how easy it is to tap into endless international au-pair poonani once you are actually one of them.