Post: #26

Just to note the article does not exactly represent my views. I merely shared it.

Post: #27

(12-10-2015 06:56 PM)GameNovice Wrote:  Ending the threat of jihad against the western world ( europe ) is really quite easy.

1. The immediate and total deportation of all muslims and their subversive native allies.

2. Establishing a border zone around Europe, by fortifying border nations such as Greece, Bulgaria and Italy.

3. Infiltration of Europe by muslim elements will be considered a capital offense, as will aiding these infiltrators in any way, shape or form. Border nations ( Turkey, Libya, the UK ) found to be enabling muslims to cross into Europe will be subject to punitive expeditions.

You need to look up a map. UK enabling foreigners? We're a bloody island on the west coast of Europe and above Spain.

Do they float on up from Africa and the med to the UK? No they come from Europe, which in turn allows them to come from the eastern bloc, which allows them from Greece and before that its Italy and Turkey.

And your punitive expeditions? We'd laugh at any attempt to invade us with a military force.

Post: #28

Really the threat jihad poes should not be a problem to us. We have the superior military, superior tehnology. With tons of Muslim immigration they have been able to pull of various attacks here and there, but its nothing compared to the devestation of an actual coordinated military attack any country with an air force could pull off. We could destroy Raqqa completely in probably ten minutes if we wanted to, ISIS certainly could not do this to Washington D.C. or Paris yet.

The only reason jihad is a problem is because our own leaders are inviting it, instead of defending against it. We are seeing a civilizational conflict, between one side with an airforce and another that relies on suicide bombers and stray terrorists with a gun or two. This should be no contest really, but our own leaders refuse to adequately deal with it to protect us.

We have the means to protect ourselves. It is just a question of getting in leaders who actually want to use those means.

If we treated ISIS held territory like we did Germany and Japana in WWII, this could be over quickly.

Raqqa is still standing though, strangely enough. Not how we treated Berlin or Tokyo during WWII.

Post: #29

Isis and Al Queda for that matter are nothing more than a CIA, Saudi, Mossad front used to destabilize the region in an effort to get Saudi Arabian natural gas piped up into Europe to eliminate a source of Russian income.

The real question is will Donald if he becomes president start a massive investigation and a mass arrest of American intelligence workers once he gets into power...

Post: #30

Saudi Arabia is the main terrorist state in the world.

The West cannot support it and claim to fight terrorism at the same time.

It's a simple equation. But either way, the truth is that the war on "terrorism" is like the war on drugs, it's not even meant to be won, just amplified and instrumentalized according to it's usefulness in achieving a certain end.

Post: #31

(12-12-2015 11:45 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  The only reason jihad is a problem is because our own leaders are inviting it, instead of defending against it. We are seeing a civilizational conflict, between one side with an airforce and another that relies on suicide bombers and stray terrorists with a gun or two. This should be no contest really, but our own leaders refuse to adequately deal with it to protect us.

If we treated ISIS held territory like we did Germany and Japana in WWII, this could be over quickly.
Raqqa is still standing though, strangely enough. Not how we treated Berlin or Tokyo during WWII.

If the goal was to protect the masses it could be over really quickly, only If the goal was to protect...
Raqqa is strangely still standing or maybe it's not as big ISIS HQ as the government want you to think it is.

Look at the charts more or less than 60% of ISIS money come from exported goods (cotton, oil, gas, phosphate...)
And the irony is that our countries are buying DAESH cotton because it's the cheaper on the market to make things like this:



I think, and that's only my opinion, that when the coalition will left those country and let those people kill themselves like they did in other countries, only then the rest of the world will be able to live in peace without no terorist threats like this one:

Chicken bombs, cheaper and spicier than KFC

(12-12-2015 12:27 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  the truth is that the war on "terrorism" is like the war on drugs, it's not even meant to be won, just amplified and instrumentalized according to it's usefulness in achieving a certain end.

Post: #32

(12-12-2015 12:27 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Saudi Arabia is the main terrorist state in the world.

The West cannot support it and claim to fight terrorism at the same time.

It's a simple equation. But either way, the truth is that the war on "terrorism" is like the war on drugs, it's not even meant to be won, just amplified and instrumentalized according to it's usefulness in achieving a certain end.

Yes. The House of Saud is the true evil power.

Post: #33

Pretty good video on the whole muslims vs islamists issue in my opinion. Quite good to spread awareness amongst normies as well:




Like a few others I too got criticized for saying not all muslims are terrorists. But it's important to make that clear because the moderates are needed to oppose the radicals and if we don't distinguish, it will lead to resentment amongst moderates. Some people say "aha, so the moderates are potential extremists too then", but think about how you would react if you're constantly being accused of being violent because a more or less large proportion of a group you're associated with is violent. We need to monitor which muslims are really moderate and which of them just pretend to be, yes. And regardless of them being radical or moderate, I don't want them in my country to be honest because it pollutes the culture and increases social tension. But they are here for now and calling all of them violent won't help us in any way. Trumps approach is the right way at the moment, I think: just check what's really going on with each one.

Post: #34

Radical Islam, say hello to Radical Feminism. Radical Feminism, say hellp to Radical Islam...



I predict Al-Jezebel will be a real website in 2 decades.

Post: #35

(12-12-2015 12:36 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 12:27 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Saudi Arabia is the main terrorist state in the world.

The West cannot support it and claim to fight terrorism at the same time.

It's a simple equation. But either way, the truth is that the war on "terrorism" is like the war on drugs, it's not even meant to be won, just amplified and instrumentalized according to it's usefulness in achieving a certain end.

Yes. The House of Saud is the true evil power.

The house of Saud is originally a jewish tribe. I will expand on this later, it is not me just speculating. Saudi Arabia, Israel and the US are allies for a reason. Politics in the middle east are an incomprehensible mess where your friends are also your enemies.

The deal Obama made with Iran does not make any sense until you consider that it was pushed for by Israel who also supports Iran. Yes, the same Iran who wants to nuke Israel. During the Iraq-Iran war, Israel supplied Iran with arms, aid and tactical support. You can find this on wikipedia, they are currently trade partners.

It is all one big theater, typical mossad diversion tactics.

Post: #36

Another good, in-depth, and balanced read:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arch...ts/384980/

Who woulda thunk?

Post: #37

Or until you understand that Russia was courting. Iran's support in Syria.

Post: #38

@syrianguy. So why Israel and Iran are in bed together? Will America really go to war with Iran? So why does Iran talk about wiping Israel off the map if they are friends?

Post: #39

(12-13-2015 12:17 AM)Pride male Wrote:  @syrianguy. So why Israel and Iran are in bed together? Will America really go to war with Iran? So why does Iran talk about wiping Israel off the map if they are friends?

Let me give you some background. I might be going off on some tangents but bear with me.

The paranoia of zionist spies infiltrating regimes is always lingering in the minds of middle eastern people. This was intensified following the failed 6-day war on Israel, accusations of secret alliances with Israel/US were being thrown left and right.

Assad's current detractors- the opposition or "moderates" if you wish- constantly accuse him of being under zionist protection. I speak to a lot of Syrian friends and frequent anti-Assad forums/ facebook pages. They point to a number of reports showing that Israeli jets have been freely flying over Syrian territory completely unobstructed by Assad. Secondly, there is evidence that Assad had released a large number of Islamic fighters at the start of the revolution( captured after the Iraq war) who went on to form ISIS north of the country, we all know they are now trained by the mossad. Lastly, Damascus is undergoing a demographic change with Iranians hordes coming in and buying cheap real estate.

I tell you this because in the failed Iranian revolution the same claims were made about Khomeini's regime in Iran.

The way I see it, Israel would never allow an islamic state next door - and ISIS was never a threat. I think they benefits from the turmoil in many ways, one of them is it takes the attention away from the Palestinian cause but it goes much deeper than that. Divide and conquer principle at work.

Israel and Persia relationship can be traced back to the scriptures where the persian ruler, Cyrus the great, freed the jews from the babylonians (Today's Iraq) returning them to the promised land and rebuilding their temple in Jerusalem.

Flash-forward to the 80s, Ayatollah's islamic brand had takeover in Iran and declared the U.S -along with Israel- to be the "great Satan". This didn't prevent Israel from siding with him during the Iraq-Iran war. Look up the scandal of the Irangate, where Israel facilitated the sale of american weapons to Iran who was under embargo.

Bush takes the flack for the Iraq war in 2003 but there is little talk of the powerful Israel lobby that was pressuring for the war behind the scenes. Mesopotomia was vindictively destroyed, again Iran clearly benefits.

What you see now between Iran and Israel is only a war of words. Meaningless words, Iran was never an existential threat to the Jews. Iran's greatest ally in the region has always been Israel.

This is only scratching the surface, please read this article to see how deep the ties run between the two countries. Israel's support was there during the Shah's reign. There is also a book about it, Treacherous Alliance: The Secret Dealings of Israel,Iran and the United States" by Trita Parsi. I don't claim to know the real intentions of the zionist but in politics you have to connect the dots.

Post: #40

(12-11-2015 01:24 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  You need to look up a map. UK enabling foreigners? We're a bloody island on the west coast of Europe and above Spain.

Do they float on up from Africa and the med to the UK? No they come from Europe, which in turn allows them to come from the eastern bloc, which allows them from Greece and before that its Italy and Turkey.

And your punitive expeditions? We'd laugh at any attempt to invade us with a military force.

The UK is the original supercuck nation and beyond saving. It, along with Sweden, should be considered a lost cause as far as civilization goes.

Post: #41

Requiem I disagree with what you say and here's why. Others may have said similar things to you so I apologize if I repeat anything but I just want to give my 2 cents somewhere on this forum since you're not alone.

Take any ideology or movement as an example - well use Nazism. The German population could basically be graphed on a bell curve (there's a reason the bell curve, or Gaussian curve, is also called the natural curve since it occurs so often in nature). On the vertical axis we have number of people. On the horizontal axis we have "extremism" with it increasing as you go to the right. On the far left we have your Schindlers and those who risked their lives to oppose Nazism, it's a small portion of the population. On the far right we have your Hitlers, Goebbels, devout SS, etc; they too make up a small portion of the population. In the middle we have the majority of Germans. I'm sure you're familiar with the result of the Nazi movement.

I'll tell you a personal story too. I dated a seemingly highly westernized Muslim girl back in my pre-red pill beta days. She dressed normally with no head coverings, wore make up, studied at university, etc. Hell she was willing to suck my dick in a car. However we kept things on the DL so her parents wouldn't find out. Eventually something more long term like marriage was considered. However me converting to Islam was the only option on the table - this was based on the Muslim rule of Muslim men can marry non Muslim women but not the other way around. After about 1-2 years how she really felt about certain things started to come out. She didn't unequivocally denounce terrorist attacks like 9/11 - all she'd say is that they were wrong because other Muslims happened to be killed. The crusades were the most evil thing to have happened, but past military actions by the Berbers/moors/ottomans were just. If a girl like this thinks these things, how is one that actually wears a burka going to? When shit hits the fan and attacks like Paris are a regular occurrence you think these people are going to put their lives on the line to defend the West? A minority might, but the majority will seek the path of least resistance. It'll be just like the Germans and Nazism. It goes beyond the resentment due to accusation like you mentioned; it's about ideology - and the apologia from the media is far worse than facing reality.

Another thing to consider is that Islam has been at war with the west ever since its inception. What we're seeing now is merely a continuation of that. Islam is incompatible with the west, it's that simple. Tip toeing around this whole "moderate Muslims" concept is misleading and intended to weaken our defenses. The useful idiots on the left think everyone is good and thinks like them but it's just not the case. Time and again these people will tell me "I have Muslim friends and they would NEVER say such things." Well have you ever thought that your fucking coworker saying 9/11 is justified isn't exactly in their best interest? Those in control know their history and are simply trying to dump Muslims in western societies to destabilize them. It's not the fault of Muslims really. They're just doing what they believe in and on top of that western countries bomb and fuck around in the ME which pisses them off more, again this is a result of direction from the top. As Shakespeare said "nothing is good or bad only thinking makes it so." There are no moral absolutes so don't think that way like the useful idiots do. There's only collective interest, and Islam is against the collective interest of the West.

Post: #42

(12-10-2015 06:55 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  It all hinges on the premise that Islamic extremists are a legitimate existential threat to Western Civilization, which is giving them far too much credit.

Do you feel lucky?

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