Post: #26

Guy doesn't know how to fight. Period.

With that in mind, he might have held back some form of animalistic rage because she was a chick. Even if the guy can't fight, male brute force rage (real rage) might have tipped things in his favor despite the fact he looks like a thin bitch. In fairness, this guy is raised in a feminist culture so even if he can't fight, he is holding back in some capacity. He instinctively knows that he can't really fight back and since he doesn't have any training obviously, what else is he suppose to do with a chick who seems like she has been trained in some capcity and has ZERO mental/social hangups about causing serious injury to someone without proper cause?

A knee blow to the temple will knock out a lot of people regardless of gender or size. If you watch the video, she was able to fully cock back her leg/knee for a direct blow to the side of the dudes head. If a 16 year old raging/highly emotionally girl kneed many of us directly in the side of our head with full force, it would be a serious hit and could lead to a significant injury.

Not all the facts are present but apparently the fight started when the girl confronted the guy about being a dick online towards her. He threw water at her in response and they went down (I'm assuming she physically responded to the water throw) and she ultimately kneed him in the head. Now, everyone is cheering her on because she wears a dress, has long hair and took down a dude. Basically, it's OK to knee a dude to the head if he throws water at you. Does the reverse standard exist? (Hell fuckin no)

If Roosh had taken down that crazy Canadian bitch in Montreal who threw water at him and kneed her to the head, he would be in jail and many of us would be agreeing that he went overboard. Society universally would pile on and say Roosh was way out of line. A similar situation occurs but with a teenage girl with traditional long hair /dress instead and people here are making fun of the guy and cheering the girl on or giving her a pass because of her gender and appearance.

This reminds me of the Baltimore riot video where the ghetto mom was slapping the shit out of her son for being a hoodrat dipshit; it was lauded as comedy and benign. If the opposite had been true, a father slapping her daughter around for being a hoodrat dipshit, there would be a national outrage and the man would probably be arrested and lose his job.

I'm not trying to belittle the girls fighting abilities nor defend the dude just because he is a dude. I just want to make note the double standard society and some people here are exhibiting and how that double standard might fuck with some guys, especially inexperienced young guys who have been raised in feminist culture of double standards, in being able to respond to a physically hostile woman.

The giant gulf in difference in response to identical situations but with flipped genders is why I'm reacting the way I am. Ultimately, we shouldn't be encouraging double standards and maybe should be a bit more sympathetic to the poor bastards who have to be raised in this horrible militant feminist environment.

Post: #27

Mistake 1: He apparently threw water on her after she confronted him about talking shit online. He chose to escalate a conflict where no escalation was needed.
Mistake 2: He underestimated the power of rage.
Mistake 3: He fought on her terms, not his, despite having the physical advantage of being a male.
Mistake 4: He was scared. Look at his body language. He looked very awkward throughout much of it. He would lean way in, or squat and lean forward. It's no surprise she managed to get him to the ground.

Step in. Grab her. Hang on until she gets tired or the fight gets broken up. This guy never stepped in.

Post: #28

(02-18-2016 02:32 PM)LongDongSilver Wrote:  Not in schools, both kids get misdemeanor assault charges. Usually the same with bar fights. I have sucker punched somebody who was sitting down and pounded and booted him when he went down and we both got disorderly conduct.

Could be, but in a mixed gender fight, a woman would get pussy pass or be straight out declared a victim, so the guy would end up the only one punished.

Post: #29

(02-18-2016 02:42 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  Not all the facts are present but apparently the fight started when the girl confronted the guy about being a dick online towards her. He threw water at her in response and they went down (I'm assuming she physically responded to the water throw) and she ultimately kneed him in the head. Now, everyone is cheering her on because she wears a dress, has long hair and took down a dude. Basically, it's OK to knee a dude to the head if he throws water at you. Does the reverse standard exist? (Hell fuckin know)

1. Go have a heated argument with someone you don't like, and they don't like you.
2. Throw water on them.

If you take the initiative to escalate a conflict into physical exchanges, then you accept that getting a knee to the side of your head is a potential outcome.

FWIW, the guy looked Latino.

Post: #30

Yea for sure Mage. I was out a few months ago and some lone mid thirties hog was harassing me and I told her to lost. She started hugging me GRABS at my junk and and as I stepped away left hooked me in the eye.


My first impulse was to beat the shit out of her but luckily was thinking clearly enough to know I would get fucked over since I have a Dv conviction. she retreated into a bunch of old drunk white knights.I ended up getting kicked out and banned from that bar. I had a gnarly black eye for a week for telling someone to leave me alone.

Later I found out the dumb bitch was an employee of that bar. So yea I 100 percent agree the pussy pass is bullshit and is abused constantly by retarded slags in every aspect of their pitiful lives.

Post: #31

This story is a pussy pass. He may have deserved to get smacked but if it was a dude he would have most likely fought back more.

Post: #32

All you guys missed the point.

No girl/woman would EVER look at me and think she could fight me. Period.

That girl took it to that guy because she knew she could take him.

Yeah, he probably didn't want to hit her. If he hand lifted her off the ground and slapped her butt, then he would have won on so many levels.

What if that was your son, nephew, cousin, what would you do?

Again for all the anti-gym crowd, this is the main reason why you workout. So that people will think twice about squaring up to you.

I will do 100 pull-ups later in the gym, for that sorry ass kid.

Millennials.LOL

Post: #33

There are zero Asians in Sonoma. He's mexican

Post: #34

(02-18-2016 03:04 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 02:42 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  Not all the facts are present but apparently the fight started when the girl confronted the guy about being a dick online towards her. He threw water at her in response and they went down (I'm assuming she physically responded to the water throw) and she ultimately kneed him in the head. Now, everyone is cheering her on because she wears a dress, has long hair and took down a dude. Basically, it's OK to knee a dude to the head if he throws water at you. Does the reverse standard exist? (Hell fuckin know)

1. Go have a heated argument with someone you don't like, and they don't like you.
2. Throw water on them.

If you take the initiative to escalate a conflict into physical exchanges, then you accept that getting a knee to the side of your head is a potential outcome.

I think you misunderstood the point of my post.

I have been in street fights. I didn't win them all and I've got the scars and broken bones to prove it. I understand street fight logic (which you pointed out) but that wasn't what I was discussing.

I was discussing gender double standards (the pussy pass) that are so pervasive throughout society and how they screw with men's minds (especially young men who are being raised in a militant feminist era) with regards to their initial instincts in dealing with physically hostile women. And ultimately, we as men, shouldn't be doing anything to encourage or enable unfair double standards (we have enough working against us as it is) despite the optics of a male vs female fight.

Post: #35

(02-18-2016 03:17 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  All you guys missed the point.

No girl/woman would EVER look at me and think she could fight me. Period.

That girl took it to that guy because she knew she could take him.

Yeah, he probably didn't want to hit her. If he hand lifted her off the ground and slapped her butt, then he would have won on so many levels.

What if that was your son, nephew, cousin, what would you do?

Again for all the anti-gym crowd, this is the main reason why you workout. So that people will think twice about squaring up to you.

I will do 100 pull-ups later in the gym, for that sorry ass kid.

Millennials.LOL

If it was my cousin, I'd laugh at him and call him a faggot for throwing water on someone.
If it was my nephew, I'd speak to his father about why his son felt the need to do something so feminine like throwing water on a person after an argument. And I wouldn't hesitate to shame the nephew for making bitch moves and getting beat down for it.
If it was my son... I can't imagine raising a male with such female tendencies. I would have corrected his behavior when I caught him acting like a faggot when he was 5.

Post: #36

(02-18-2016 02:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  From the subject line I figured the video would be celebrated by feminists worldwide, but then I saw the girl was white and the guy was brown looking. It must be a stressful time for them to form an opinion about the video.

The 'cyber bulling' angle is one of their pet causes so that should tip the scales in support of this video if they had doubt.

If everything written about this story is true, there are some interesting threads:

1. The fact that this girl felt comfortable enough to not only confront this guy but physically fight him, by herself, over FB comments suggests that she's a girl with a bit of a 'rough' background, or the guy is a total dweeb. Probably a bit of both. She wouldn't have done this if it was the running back of the football team for example.

2. The guy supposedly responded to her initial confrontation by throwing a drink on her. That's a female move, which lends credence to this guy being a bit of a dweeb.

3. Among the 'you go girl' comments I'm seeing a lot of sentiments to the effect of 'this is what you get for talking shit online.' Now this happens all the time, with bullies doing their thing, and occasionally the victim stands up for him/herself.

Since this has gone viral, and it involves a female beating up a guy over apparent cyber bulling, the SJW crowd is going to latch on to this and apply it to themselves. They already think that offering a differing opinion on Twitter amounts to hate speech and bullying, and now that they have some real world footage of a girl beating up a guy over it, a few might be emboldened to do the same in their own lives. Indeed, that's what happened with Roosh in Canada.

4. At the end of the day this guy lost though because he allowed himself to get manhandled. Even if he didn't want to hit a girl, he should have been able to not get ruined like that. To be sure, he didn't get knocked out, he was able to stand back up seconds after the knee.

At the same time, it's not exactly the most humiliating thing for him, objectively speaking. He and the girl are probably 14 or 15, and at that age girls are further along in their maturity than boys and a lot of them are physically on the same level. In 5 years that won't be the case, but now it's not hard to imagine a girl who is giving it everything doing some damage to a physically similar opponent who is not. Combine that with him being a dweeb and never having any sort of confrontation in his life and he's going to end up looking silly.

Even so, he should probably transfer because that's his social life ruined at that school. I can't imagine the shit he's going to get from that, it'll raining down endlessly until college.

Post: #37

(02-18-2016 03:19 PM)Sonoma Wrote:  There are zero Asians in Sonoma. He's mexican

Yeah. Dude is lucky a latina didn't come at him with a knife.

Post: #38

(02-18-2016 03:28 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  I think you misunderstood the point of my post.

I have been in street fights. I didn't win them all and I've got the scars and broken bones to prove it. I understand street fight logic (which you pointed out) but that wasn't what I was discussing.

I was discussing gender double standards (the pussy pass) that are so pervasive throughout society and how they screw with men's minds (especially young men who are being raised in a militant feminist era) with regards to their initial instincts in dealing with physically hostile women. And ultimately, we as men, shouldn't be doing anything to encourage or enable unfair double standards (we have enough working against us as it is) despite the optics of a male vs female fight.

I guess I don't really see this as an issue of gender. And I don't blame rampant, rabid feminism for her reaction. I've been out of high school for over 20 years and even I remember there were some girls who were simply quite feisty, and if you threw water on them, you'd have a problem on your hands.

As far as double standards go and comparing this to Roosh in Canada where the roles are reversed, I see where you're coming from. And I don't support this double standard.

Fuck man, I'm just laughing at this idiot because he acted like a faggot and got a beating that was made 100X more humiliating because the beating was administered by a girl.

Post: #39

(02-18-2016 04:23 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 03:28 PM)The Black Knight Wrote:  I think you misunderstood the point of my post.

I have been in street fights. I didn't win them all and I've got the scars and broken bones to prove it. I understand street fight logic (which you pointed out) but that wasn't what I was discussing.

I was discussing gender double standards (the pussy pass) that are so pervasive throughout society and how they screw with men's minds (especially young men who are being raised in a militant feminist era) with regards to their initial instincts in dealing with physically hostile women. And ultimately, we as men, shouldn't be doing anything to encourage or enable unfair double standards (we have enough working against us as it is) despite the optics of a male vs female fight.

I guess I don't really see this as an issue of gender. And I don't blame rampant, rabid feminism for her reaction. I've been out of high school for over 20 years and even I remember there were some girls who were simply quite feisty, and if you threw water on them, you'd have a problem on your hands.

As far as double standards go and comparing this to Roosh in Canada where the roles are reversed, I see where you're coming from. And I don't support this double standard.

Fuck man, I'm just laughing at this idiot because he acted like a faggot and got a beating that was made 100X more humiliating because the beating was administered by a girl.

Haha, I know man. Ain't going to lie: the optics of the fight are funny shit since it's not a very common thing to see. I mean shit, I just get excited when a see a chick with long hair and a dress in America. But a feminine looking chick kicking the shit out of some faggot looking dude who had it coming?



Honestly, instead of posting a long analysis on gender dynamics and everything, I thought about just posting:

"When of legal age: WB"

I still stand by analysis.

Post: #40

I watched the video again and it is obvious the girl has some training or has watched alot of UFC.

She went for the leg takedown from the start, dude was hopping around because he had no counter.

He fell down and then she lined him up with two accurate knee kicks to his head.

She then walked away, once she got the knockout.

I find this nauseating as a man, I wish people would stop blaming groups, society etc. It doesn't excuse the boy getting knocked out by a girl, all this crap about girls maturing faster than boys.

A part of me hopes this is a prank.

Boys like that need to put down the playstation and buy some weider plastic weights.

Post: #41

(02-18-2016 02:41 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 02:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  From the subject line I figured the video would be celebrated by feminists worldwide, but then I saw the girl was white and the guy was brown looking. It must be a stressful time for them to form an opinion about the video.

Looked like an asian guy to me.

Asians have afro hairdos now?

Post: #42

I have 2 nieces that are black belts. My brother has been into martial arts since he was 10 (over 40 years). I have always pulled that Kato from the Pink Panther shit on them and they would make a quick move on my ass. Once my niece (12/13 yrs old at the time) gave me a leg kick. That shit hurt like hell but I played it off and walked into the kitchen. I tell my brother about the kick; he laughs and says if a weak motherfucker steps to them, they would catch him slippin. Thats what that girl did. Good for her. He was a weak ass internet tough guy.

Post: #43

(02-18-2016 05:36 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I watched the video again and it is obvious the girl has some training or has watched alot of UFC.

She went for the leg takedown from the start, dude was hopping around because he had no counter.

He fell down and then she lined him up with two accurate knee kicks to his head.

She then walked away, once she got the knockout.

I find this nauseating as a man, I wish people would stop blaming groups, society etc. It doesn't excuse the boy getting knocked out by a girl, all this crap about girls maturing faster than boys.

A part of me hopes this is a prank.

Boys like that need to put down the playstation and buy some weider plastic weights.

Part of me thinks that she has protective male relatives who go to that school and who are also into MMA, and that the boy she beat up knew that even if he took the girl down, or embarrassed her by smacking her ass or whatever, he'd end up in the hospital the next day.

Post: #44

To me the kid isn't trying to fight her but to keep her at bay which doesn't work. Bad judgement call on his behalf, but a tricky call to make, if a woman comes at you at what point to do you figure out you need to actually do some fighting because the woman can actually hurt you?

Post: #45

Brazilian jiu jitsu background? I don't see it, maybe i'm looking at the wrong video or the girl is a white belt at which point then this video makes sense. Props to her however if she was getting picked on and took matters to her own instead of waiting for 10 white knights to jump the kid.

Post: #46

If the guy was fighting a boy of the same physical size/strength/skill as this girl, the fight would have gone differently. Without social conditioning preventing him from striking we would have seen a different outcome.

He had it coming by bitching on social media and throwing water at her, but its true that if you flipped the genders the attacker would be greatly punished.

Think about it. Girl bitches about guy on social media. Guy tracks down girl and confronts her at school 'What did you say about me you little bitch?' Girl throws water at guy in defense. Guy wrestles girl down and knees her in the head before running off.

Do you think the guy would just get a suspension? Hell no. There would be a restraining order and police would get involved with possible stalking/assault charges. Not to mention the entire crowd would be hostile and have jumped in to white knight. BJJ coaches on social media would be slamming the attacker for misusing his skills rather than congratulating him with offers to train him.

Guy had it coming, but this is a great place to point out societal double standards.

Post: #47

(02-18-2016 03:17 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  No girl/woman would EVER look at me and think she could fight me. Period.

You underestimate women's overestimation of their abilities.

I've known women who in all seriousness believe they can fight because they've taken a few boxercise classes.

Despite all the "women are equal to men in every way", there is still a culture of "Never hit a woman". It is almost impossible as a man to win a fight with a woman. Don't fight back, you're a laughing stock because you got beat up by a girl. Fight back and you're a brutal woman beater. Add to that women know that there are men that will step in to protect them.

When you fight a woman, you're likely not fighting one person. You're fighting her, her friends and any amount of other men who will instantly jump to the the side of the woman.

You're size might be a deterrent to anyone with half a brain. But I guarantee there are women who truly believe they could win a fair fight against you. There are so many examples in movies/TV shows where a small woman beats the shit out of a much larger man that people are starting to believe it.

Post: #48

I'm 6'2, 200 lbs and have been attacked by 100 lbers that know 100 percent I could smash them. When the rage hits some of these rats they go feral.

I used to be against hitting women but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

Post: #49

(02-18-2016 10:12 PM)FireStarter Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 03:17 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  No girl/woman would EVER look at me and think she could fight me. Period.

You underestimate women's overestimation of their abilities.

I've known women who in all seriousness believe they can fight because they've taken a few boxercise classes.

Despite all the "women are equal to men in every way", there is still a culture of "Never hit a woman". It is almost impossible as a man to win a fight with a woman. Don't fight back, you're a laughing stock because you got beat up by a girl. Fight back and you're a brutal woman beater. Add to that women know that there are men that will step in to protect them.

When you fight a woman, you're likely not fighting one person. You're fighting her, her friends and any amount of other men who will instantly jump to the the side of the woman.

You're size might be a deterrent to anyone with half a brain. But I guarantee there are women who truly believe they could win a fair fight against you. There are so many examples in movies/TV shows where a small woman beats the shit out of a much larger man that people are starting to believe it.

I am not trying to come across as a tough guy, because I hate to fight. I know what can happen in a real fight and it ain't pretty.

Some of the nastiest fights I have seen have been women fighting other women, they were throwing bottles and anything they could find in the club.

NO women wants a punch or slap in her face, her beauty is of the atmost importance to her.

The kid could have held his ground, he didn't have to hit her. But the girl was in full command, taking him down with ease and delivering precise knees to his head.
Even if he picked her up or blocked her offense it would have been way better than that.

How you going to defend that?

Again, you see that video and it is your son. Would you have the same opinion?

Your friends see that video and ask you if that is your boy.

The world has gone mad when women think they can beat up men.

Trust me, no man or woman is that tough when they get a punch to their nose.

Post: #50

This kid isn't even fighting her evidenced by him still holding on to whatever he has in that paper bag, he doesn't even feel threatened by her. For those who are saying he got what he deserved, you might be white knighting a bit here. The outcome is telling and it isn't what you see in the video, she got suspended, he did not. Pussy pass denied.

PS: The kid was not knocked out, not by a long shot.