Post: #26

(04-03-2016 07:53 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Soros sponsored, which means the papers are filtered against any multicult sponsors/organizations.

BLM, Anti-Trump protesting, now this shit.

What's next?

Post: #27

Yes, it is quite suspect that no American were mentioned. *However* there are supposed to be even more leaks coming soon with even bigger implications. I'd wait a few days to make a judgment to see if this really has some true eye-opening information.

Post: #28

(04-03-2016 08:00 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 07:53 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Soros sponsored, which means the papers are filtered against any multicult sponsors/organizations.

BLM, Anti-Trump protesting, now this shit.

What's next?

He's turning out to be a genuine super-villain.

Post: #29

This thing has potential to be yuuuge.
As for why there are no Americans on the list, I'd say there's a good chance that they are holding back a lot of info for now.
It's 2.6 terabyte, the media can and will milk this story for weeks.
They won't publicize their most valuable data in the beginning.

Even so, there's already some entertaining stuff available.
My favorites include holier-than-thou Kofi Annan, the whole bunch from transparency-zealous Iceland, the Kirchner gang from Argentina, David Cameron's father, and of course French master of hypocrisy Jérôme Cahuzac.

Post: #30

(04-03-2016 07:50 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  Have the actual papers been released to the public? Can we download them or are the Media hoarding them?

A comment I read elsewhere:

Quote:The Panama Paper Leak is a dirty obvious PR stunt of the West to expose BRICS leaders in order to topple them with bad publicity

Agree? Disagree?

I would definitely agree. The emphasis on China, Russia, Putin, Putin's friends, Syria, Assad, etc. seems greatly suspicious and not coincidental at all knowing recent global events.

I was reading the ZeroHedge article on this (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-03...est-people) and they linked to another article from Bloomberg (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...ted-states) which was really interesting. Main point was that the US is becoming a new tax haven for rich foreigners mainly because our government is actively "resisting new global disclosure standards".

Quote:Rothschild, the centuries-old European financial institution, has opened a trust company in Reno, Nev., a few blocks from the Harrah’s and Eldorado casinos. It is now moving the fortunes of wealthy foreign clients out of offshore havens such as Bermuda, subject to the new international disclosure requirements, and into Rothschild-run trusts in Nevada, which are exempt.
The U.S. “is effectively the biggest tax haven in the world” —Andrew Penney, Rothschild & Co.

Hmm..anyone who's read about the Rothschilds knows why this is a point of interest.

Perhaps the Panama Papers incident was intended to hurt the existing tax evasion industries in places like Panama and the Bahamas and draw more of that money towards American based banks.

Post: #31

(04-03-2016 07:53 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Soros sponsored, which means the papers are filtered against any multicult sponsors/organizations.

Yes, except one strange detail: Poroshenko's name appears. Why would Soros turn on Poroshenko??

Post: #32

If this leak is absent US names, I call bullshit.

Post: #33

(04-03-2016 09:40 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(04-03-2016 07:53 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Soros sponsored, which means the papers are filtered against any multicult sponsors/organizations.

Yes, except one strange detail: Poroshenko's name appears. Why would Soros turn on Poroshenko??

Even the New York Times called out Poroshenko's high levels of corruption in an editorial 4 days ago. The Ukrainian government is an absolute mess right now and it seems that their Western handlers aren't too pleased with the job they're doing either.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/01/opinio....html?_r=0

Quote:In a speech in Odessa last September, the United States ambassador, Geoffrey Pyatt, said corruption was as dangerous for Ukraine as was the Russian support for a military insurgency in eastern Ukraine. And on a visit last December, Vice President Joseph Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.”

Post: #34

A question one should ask is why did this make news right now? It is not uncommon for 'big' news to make the headlines to obfuscate something else and worse happening in the world... And considering that Soros is behind this, one should be even more suspicious.

Post: #35

About a week or so ago, Putin made a statement saying that he will be attacked in the media soon.

Kremlin warns of planned ‘information attack’ against Putin
https://www.rt.com/politics/337450-putin...-of-fresh/

Presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov has said that Western mass media intends to launch a new slander attack on Vladimir Putin and expressed regret that reporters’ professionalism is often “sacrificed to political demands.”

Published time: 28 Mar, 2016 14:52

Post: #36

The fact that all of these news organizations are coordinating the release of these documents tells me that this is a sophisticated hit job funded by someone very powerful (i.e. Soros and assorted globalists). If this were really "an investigation", the first news organization to get their hands on materials like this would have instantly ran it and reaped millions in increased sales.

Post: #37

(04-04-2016 06:07 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  The fact that all of these news organizations are coordinating the release of these documents tells me that this is a sophisticated hit job funded by someone very powerful (i.e. Soros and assorted globalists). If this were really "an investigation", the first news organization to get their hands on materials like this would have instantly ran it and reaped millions in increased sales.

I tend to agree with you here. Although very little of the data has been scoured through, the fact that they headlined pretty much all of the western states enemies as criminals, makes me wonder what else they are trying to hide here or distract us with.

Look at the main picture on the website, it's Putin.
https://panamapapers.icij.org/

Founded in 1997, ICIJ was launched as a project of the Center for Public Integrity to extend the Center’s style of watchdog journalism
https://www.publicintegrity.org/icij/about

List of major institutional funders
https://www.publicintegrity.org/about/ou...supporters

Looks like Rockefeller Family Fund, Rockefeller Brothers Fund and other big names are supporters.

Post: #38

How big is the chance of Trumps name appearing within this data? Along with other politicians or names who do not toe the party line?

Do you think they are saving the American names for last to present them on the most convenient date that would cause the most harm?

Post: #39

(04-03-2016 08:34 PM)Belgrano Wrote:  This thing has potential to be yuuuge.
As for why there are no Americans on the list, I'd say there's a good chance that they are holding back a lot of info for now.
It's 2.6 terabyte, the media can and will milk this story for weeks.
They won't publicize their most valuable data in the beginning.

Even so, there's already some entertaining stuff available.
My favorites include holier-than-thou Kofi Annan, the whole bunch from transparency-zealous Iceland, the Kirchner gang from Argentina, David Cameron's father, and of course French master of hypocrisy Jérôme Cahuzac.

Perhaps, if suspicions over Soros being behind this are true, he could use this as leverage over influential US persons of interest in the public sphere.

Give us some influence or we release the details which I'm sure the IRS would love to get a look at.

The IRS can destroy people and Soros doesn't need any more money does he? All he wants is global influence over the general population and who does that better than influential people from all walks of life?

Outside the US he couldn't influence them as much, especially Putin except to make him look bad in the eyes of normal Russians.

Post: #40

(04-04-2016 06:39 AM)Guriko Wrote:  How big is the chance of Trumps name appearing within this data? Along with other politicians or names who do not toe the party line?

Do you think they are saving the American names for last to present them on the most convenient date that would cause the most harm?

That's what I'm worried about. It's unlikely that Trump and his lawyers did things 100% by the books 100% of the time. If they find anything, no matter how innocuous, we have a problem.

Post: #41

This is absolutely MASSIVE!! As others have mention here this is a hit job/targeted attack on a huge scale. What we are basically seeing here is extremely powerful people hitting other powerful people.

So the question is....who benefits from this attack? IMO globalist/open society it seems. Again we see how powerful this group of people are....

Post: #42

(04-04-2016 06:39 AM)Guriko Wrote:  How big is the chance of Trumps name appearing within this data? Along with other politicians or names who do not toe the party line?

Do you think they are saving the American names for last to present them on the most convenient date that would cause the most harm?

Some journalists have had access to these documents for months, the likelihood they're saving Americans names for last is zero.

Post: #43

This is what happens when the state tries to take your wealth away with big taxes. You're forced to hide it trough obscure, but somehow legal, systems. "Smallionaires" stash money under the bed, billionaires send it around in circles throughout the world.

EDIT: To be honest, I do not understand the outrage regarding this. Everyone knew about shady "offshore" accounts and about Panama's ethics.

Post: #44

No one has really any clue what it is, but everybody knows its huge. Someone is saying it is huge, so everyone esle will say its huge too. Were already being conditioned, and nothing has been released yet! This is one massive proaganda stunt to discourage, and scare people from thinking about taking their money out of the west. Every single 'normal' American is now much more intimidated and confused about international taxing. Basically, the end goal is to make even the thought of banking somewhere other than places explicitly 'OKed' by the West (US) a crime. Oh, you have an account in the Caymens? You MUST be corrupt! It is all PR and money/asset protection...for whatever they think will happening soon that they will need all of your money for...

Post: #45

(04-04-2016 07:45 AM)Horus Wrote:  

(04-04-2016 06:39 AM)Guriko Wrote:  How big is the chance of Trumps name appearing within this data? Along with other politicians or names who do not toe the party line?

Do you think they are saving the American names for last to present them on the most convenient date that would cause the most harm?

That's what I'm worried about. It's unlikely that Trump and his lawyers did things 100% by the books 100% of the time. If they find anything, no matter how innocuous, we have a problem.

Exactly, this has me pretty concerned. Hopefully Trump is 100% clean. The guy gets audited every year, so chances are decent that he is. Very concerning though.

Post: #46

Listened to an interview on radio Moscow Ekho an hour ago.

They interviewed a member of the Russian government who said that this whole story of linking Putin to hidden billions is BS.

He asked why Putin would need to steal billions since he could never spend it even in retirement since any extravagant spending would immediately be picked up by journalists and ruin his legacy and reputation. Something else he said to the interviewer that was amusing was asking why he would need billions. He said if Putin wants to go spend time on a mega yacht ( he is accused of being behind the purchase of a $6 million boat ) he just has to call up Abramovich and he'll send one of his fleet to use as he wishes. If he wants to stay in a villa on the Cote d'Azur he can call any of the many oligarchs who own down there and stay as long as he wants. Basically he's Putin motherfuckers, he don't need no cash.

Anecdotally I know a Russian guy who was big in the property development world in St. Petersburg when Putin was governor of the region. He said Putin and his small group around him were the only people who would not accept bribes at that time to speed things up or get projects passed. The guy always played strictly by the law.

Post: #47

We all know the very rich, on both sides (the left and the right) hide their money overseas and avoid taxes as much as they can. Seeing Soros' name linked it to seems to me that this is a hit job on the people that he doesn't agree with. Are we going to see billionaires with globalist leanings exposed here? What about a company like Apple which has billion and billions stashed abroad? Starbucks?

Yeah, no chance.

Post: #48

Maybe I'm of a simplistic mind, but this just seems to be narrative reinforcement for Bolshevik gaslighting.

Piss off the ignorant poor and make the rich that are unfavourable to the cause convenient targets. Then the puppeteers push the bolsheviks to attack. Once that's done, exterminate the useful idiots and take the reins.

Then the world population will be lower, a lot more manageable, and proceed from there.

Post: #49

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/...nama-leak/

Quote:Whoever leaked the Mossack Fonseca papers appears motivated by a genuine desire to expose the system that enables the ultra wealthy to hide their massive stashes, often corruptly obtained and all involved in tax avoidance. These Panamanian lawyers hide the wealth of a significant proportion of the 1%, and the massive leak of their documents ought to be a wonderful thing.

Unfortunately the leaker has made the dreadful mistake of turning to the western corporate media to publicise the results. In consequence the first major story, published today by the Guardian, is all about Vladimir Putin and a cellist on the fiddle. As it happens I believe the story and have no doubt Putin is bent.

But why focus on Russia? Russian wealth is only a tiny minority of the money hidden away with the aid of Mossack Fonseca. In fact, it soon becomes obvious that the selective reporting is going to stink.

The Suddeutsche Zeitung, which received the leak, gives a detailed explanation of the methodology the corporate media used to search the files. The main search they have done is for names associated with breaking UN sanctions regimes. The Guardian reports this too and helpfully lists those countries as Zimbabwe, North Korea, Russia and Syria. The filtering of this Mossack Fonseca information by the corporate media follows a direct western governmental agenda. There is no mention at all of use of Mossack Fonseca by massive western corporations or western billionaires – the main customers. And the Guardian is quick to reassure that “much of the leaked material will remain private.”

What do you expect? The leak is being managed by the grandly but laughably named “International Consortium of Investigative Journalists”, which is funded and organised entirely by the USA’s Center for Public Integrity. Their funders include

Ford Foundation
Carnegie Endowment
Rockefeller Family Fund
W K Kellogg Foundation
Open Society Foundation (Soros)

among many others. Do not expect a genuine expose of western capitalism. The dirty secrets of western corporations will remain unpublished.

Expect hits at Russia, Iran and Syria and some tiny “balancing” western country like Iceland. A superannuated UK peer or two will be sacrificed – someone already with dementia.

The corporate media – the Guardian and BBC in the UK – have exclusive access to the database which you and I cannot see. They are protecting themselves from even seeing western corporations’ sensitive information by only looking at those documents which are brought up by specific searches such as UN sanctions busters. Never forget the Guardian smashed its copies of the Snowden files on the instruction of MI6.

What if they did Mossack Fonseca database searches on the owners of all the corporate media and their companies, and all the editors and senior corporate media journalists? What if they did Mossack Fonseca searches on all the most senior people at the BBC? What if they did Mossack Fonseca searches on every donor to the Center for Public Integrity and their companies?

What if they did Mossack Fonseca searches on every listed company in the western stock exchanges, and on every western millionaire they could trace?

That would be much more interesting. I know Russia and China are corrupt, you don’t have to tell me that. What if you look at things that we might, here in the west, be able to rise up and do something about?

And what if you corporate lapdogs let the people see the actual data?

UPDATE

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Post: #50

Quote:What do you expect? The leak is being managed by the grandly but laughably named “International Consortium of Investigative Journalists”, which is funded and organised entirely by the USA’s Center for Public Integrity. Their funders include

Ford Foundation
Carnegie Endowment
Rockefeller Family Fund
W K Kellogg Foundation
Open Society Foundation (Soros)

hmmm