Post: #1

I'm noticing the vast, vast majority of girls I have a ONS with completely ghost on me afterwards. A significant percentage just immediately disappear, while others after courtesy text the next day don't reply further.

I'm trying to figure out what exactly is behind this, as I would like to build a consistent harem that I can get on call.

Is it post ASD? Moving on to the next guy? I do tear up their pussies and they do complain the next it hurts, so dunno if that's a factor.

Post: #2

(10-11-2016 10:37 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  I'm noticing the vast, vast majority of girls I have a ONS with completely ghost on me afterwards.

Well, this is basically what ONS are for, right? You dont expect to see each other again.

Hate to tell you this but sex really doesnt mean much to girls these days, it actually got that bad. Especially if you didn’t know the girl before, and/or alcohol is involved.

The “men are the keepers of LTR” are way pre-Mystery. Nowadays women are keeper of both sex and LTR, all else being equal.

To keep a harem, your sex game must really be off the charts, or you need to fuck with her mind. Or screen better.

Others can break down the latter better than I can.

Post: #3

Are these night-game, day-game or online-game ONS?

Post: #4

If these are girls that you had several dates with or were talking to before then ghosted after, then its probably a problem with sexual performance.

If theyre all drunken random bar hookups then it may be that thats all they wanted/ there was nothing more there. But still a big chance of ot being related to sexual performance to be honest.

Post: #5

This happens to me too sometimes but I don't really care. Roosh's take sums up my feelings on the matter:

http://www.rooshv.com/dont-shed-a-single...you-banged

Post: #6

I'm assuming these are young girls, about 18 to 24 years old. Don't feel bad or be surprised. From my experience, that age group is flighty and hard to keep around even under other circumstances outside of an ONS.

I ruefully remember this fine contribution - http://www.returnofkings.com/9932/the-15...-womanhood

This post helped me to understand the dating market and SMV.

Post: #7

(10-11-2016 10:51 AM)Suits Wrote:  Are these night-game, day-game or online-game ONS?

QUESTIONS THAT NEED ANSWERS!

WIA

Post: #8

I posted this before because I was running into the same problem.
My problem was a little different but similar in chicks ghosting after the bang. Here is how I solved it. Simple terms, you need to fuck them three times. I was running into a pattern of fucking girls 1-2 times going on 2-3 dates and them going cold. I spoke with a guy who has over 500 lays and at any given time has 6-12 girls on his rotation, he said he was running into a similar problem and spoke with other advance guys to come up with this "rule" and formula. He told me a good way to go about it is first date do drinks or coffee and bang her(get to know her better). Second date do something fun like Dave and Busters or comedy show and third date do something romantic like dinner at a restaurant, bang her after both dates and she gets to see multiple aspects of your personality and she is pretty solid on your rotation after that. Also try to set up the next date especially the first three in person at the end of the date, so at end of date one set date 2 up so she is thinking about it. He gave me a text flow chart I follow, but basically don't try to get to get too cute over text, use it as way to remind about meet ups, especially till you bang her three times because she will be more invested. Different girls its different, like a girl who it took 4 dates to bang would be more invested after the initial bang then a chick you pulled from a nightclub but the three bang "rule" is a good one to follow, don't take a chick forgranted till you bang her three times.

Post: #9

(10-11-2016 01:28 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 10:51 AM)Suits Wrote:  Are these night-game, day-game or online-game ONS?

QUESTIONS THAT NEED ANSWERS!

WIA

Yeah, banging tinder girls and expecting them to respect themselves enough to call you later, after nutting on their face is not likely.

Meeting a girl at a bar then banging is not much different then online. Shame spirals are very real here.

Meet a girl on the street or a place like the Art Gallery you are most likely to get repeats. Almost always actually. Then the opposite is true, they might have a hard time letting go.

Meeting girls in places like that put you squarely into their fantasies. It fits with everything they have ever imagined when it comes to meeting a man. Tinder or online, about the opposite.

Post: #10

^^ Good advice there. The "shame spiral" is real. Girls get horny and want to fuck, sure, but in the harsh bright light of the next day a majority will feel guilty.

You're associated with that guilty feeling.

Post: #11

Maybe it's me but the majority of the girls I've banged from online, I've plated or banged a few more times, there's only a handful of girls I've banged and wanted to plate that ghosted.

I've maybe had 3 walk out mid make out in my bed because they had a slut epiphany.

Other than that, girls ghosted were ones that I wanted to ghost.

The last one I remember was the last cutie asian I banged, we fucked twice, tried hanging out with her twice, got the hint, and stopped hitting her up.

I'm not surprised but if your games tight, you've fucked their mind, they might stick around for more if they enjoy being around.

I try to bring passion, fun, and laughter to every girl I game and fuck the first date.

That's my style and typically hooks a girl first date especially if I bang them. The ones I want usually stick around for a bit till they catch on or secret society happens.

Alleviating ASD and the shame spiral is easily avoidable if you can soothe the hamster after sex. "That was fun, I didn't expect this, I had fun with you, we should do this again" etc etc etc

Don't make it FEEL like just a ONS - that's what's key. Keep it light and funny post sex.

If she spends the night a little loving in the morning goes a long way, banging her that morning and sending her on a way will leave her euphoric and in a good mood all day.

Post: #12

I always make sure I soothe the hamster both right after sex, and I send a text the next day by 5pm. Light and fun is definitely the way to go, no matter how kinky she was during or said she would be 'next' time.

They don't spend the night with me unless we've been banging for months. Often not even then.

Post: #13

Try giving them great sex instead of "tearing up their pussies" they will come back every time.

Post: #14

I hate this shit when it happens but in my view it's probably cause they got more than they bargained for and now regret it. Ie) they didn't bargain on such a hard fuck and now they can't handle it so they do what 90% of women do - turn chicken and vanish. Hah.

Post: #15

(10-11-2016 09:19 PM)Cage Wrote:  I hate this shit when it happens but in my view it's probably cause they got more than they bargained for and now regret it. Ie) they didn't bargain on such a hard fuck and now they can't handle it so they do what 90% of women do - turn chicken and vanish. Hah.

I agree. Depending on the experience level of the girl and her expectations, if you come with some tight game and you fuck her good and quick within hours of meeting her especially if it's night game shit, sometimes she goes ghost because she feels like a slut.

Also if she's already a slut "you was just another nigga on the hit list"

Also sometimes with night game it's purely physical there's not much rapport building and so the next day she has basically fucked a stranger. The last chick I fucked didn't even know my name.

Honestly though it's best not to think about WHY women do things in specific individual instances. It is what it is. These days I try not to fuss over the inner workings of the dark abyss known as the female mind. Get in where you fit in and replace em don't chase em.

Post: #16

its possible you were just bad at the sex maybe thats why you dont have their interest peaked.

Post: #17

(10-12-2016 12:07 AM)burncushlikewood Wrote:  its possible you were just bad at the sex maybe thats why you dont have their interest peaked.

No, that's unlikely to be the primary reason. Maybe the girls don't want to feel cheap and they 'write off' the ONS with OP. Years later the same girls will exclude 95% of their bangs from the actual total and tell their husband-to-be that they only ever had sex with their 3 or 4 ex-boyfriends.

Post: #18

Many girls who "ghost" after sex likely have boyfriends.

Almost every Friday night, without fail, my cousin's ex-girlfriend (when they were still together) would instigate an argument so she could go out and party with her girlfriends. By Sunday or Monday, she'd want to "make up" with him...now what do you suppose happened during those 48-to-72 hours?

Post: #19

This used to happen to me some years ago when I was a slob out of shape and very once in a while managed to trick a girl into bed with me...

After I started getting a better overall appearance, physical condition, higher notch count...this rarely if ever happens that I recall...normally is me the one who ghosts.

Also, at least for the first bang, a Viagra is very helpful.

My last LTR the first 3 or 4 times I banged her was always with dick pills.

Post: #20

Women ghosting after sex has become more so of a reality recently at least it has for me as well. Women are becoming more powerful, are acting like men and are using you for your dick a lot of the time.

I filter a lot of the time online on girls who are 20-24 and like to play around and not date and that's exactly what I get - girls who about 50-60% ghost on me after the act. Some would bang you a few more times, but if you are banging girls who are young and looking to party and play around with different guys then it's exactly what you should expect.

Club game and online game are like that. She sleeps with you and then on to the next guy or back to her boring boyfriend for the week.

If you find girls who you have things in common with and/or are genuine and not party sluts then ghosting after sex would be far less likely.

Post: #21

(10-12-2016 02:32 AM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  Many girls who "ghost" after sex likely have boyfriends.

Almost every Friday night, without fail, my cousin's ex-girlfriend (when they were still together) would instigate an argument so she could go out and party with her girlfriends. By Sunday or Monday, she'd want to "make up" with him...now what do you suppose happened during those 48-to-72 hours?

Exactly, or as the kids say these days, "This." My default position on every young woman I meet now, online or off, is that they're not really single. Only "single." There's always someone else of some kind in the picture, whether it be a husband, boyfriend, ex-boyfriend she's trying to "work it out" with, or just a Chad Thundercock she hits up every couple of weeks for a good dicking.

There are lots and lots of girls using online dating to grab some ONS action outside their "main" relationship, make no mistake. Oh, you in live in Waltham? But your profile says you live in Peabody? "Worried about your privacy", I see, no fooling.

I'm sure a number of girls I messed around with outside the bar or in my ride and then flaked were in the same position, but they just didn't feel comfortable taking their cheating ways all the way to sex. Pretty messed up and it's part of the reason I know I'm going to have difficulty ever signing on to a monogamous LTR at this point.

I remember figuring this out years and years ago in my tender early 20s, with a club girl I banged a couple times and then wouldn't take my calls (anyone remember calling girls?) "Oh, you make music?" "No, I never learned to play the piano." "Ah, well what's this Alesis Quadraverb and rackstand of Roland keyboards doing sitting around the apartment?" "Um..."

Red flags: if you meet at her place, she won't take you in the bedroom and only wants to mess around on the couch. Also a ton of guy's stuff sitting around the place.

Post: #22

Where is this happening?
I had this happen recently with a Finish chick. I thought it was wonderful. The next night a different girl would not take the hint and leave

Post: #23

1. You have to prepare your sale in advance. If you get it in her head that you'll be banging her again later, it's more likely to happen. Worst case scenario for that is she goes, "you think this is happening again?" I usually fail that shit test, but you don't have to

2. I wouldn't listen to posts about performance. I was the absolute worst bang and I still had girls coming back for more limp dick 5 minute sessions

3. A lot of girls are self conscious, and are scared of connecting with you, so they'll cut it off before that happens

4. As other people have said, they're not actually single

Post: #24

(10-12-2016 08:29 AM)Sonoma Wrote:  3. A lot of girls are self conscious, and are scared of connecting with you, so they'll cut it off before that happens

Another good point. If you're a guy who works on improving yourself and are running tight game, you're bringing a lot to the table. A lot of girls are only bringing...you know.

The ones with low self-esteem can't deal very well with the fact that they don't always get the guy, even after sex, so they launch preemptive strike. "I was the one who made the call on that one."

I used to read one of the Reddit online-dating sections and I remember seeing quite a few posts like:

"I slept with this guy one time, and I might see him again. How do I avoid falling for him?"

"How do I stay detached after having sex with a new guy? I can't let him know I like him!"

Usual responses were: "Just try not to respond to his texts, go on more dates girl"



It was always amusing to me how many male users of those mixed-sex Reddit "relationship" subreddits were so solidly blue pill, when women were making posts there all the time laying out exactly their agenda, without a care in the world.

Post: #25

I also agree with what XPQ22 said. I never assume a girl is single, especially if she is attractive enough to want to bang. You can be sure and for certain she's got a cell phone full of guys on "the bench" she can call-in at anytime, either that or she has a regular dude who she either flat out doesn't mind cheating on, or can be persuaded to if your game is tight enough.

I also advocate not being the one to ask a girl for commitment. Why? Well, for one, if you see a girl enough times the question of "What are we anyway?" will come up, and you'll be in the power position if she's the one to ask it. Girls are already the gatekeepers of sex, you don't want to make them the gatekeepers of commitment, too. That's just giving all your power away.

So when a girl asks what you guys are, you have a choice: You can enter into an "exclusivity agreement" or you can shoot her down. The way girls are nowadays, even if you want her to be your girlfriend -- you can't really be the one to ask for it because all these "strong, independent women" out there have been socially conditioned to be repulsed by men being "too clingy" (AKA wanting them for anything more than a sport fuck).

Bottom line: If you want her to be your girlfriend, wait for her to ask to be yours, not the other way around. Even then, "these hos ain't loyal" so never put any real trust in a woman to live up to their word.