Post: #1

Quote:Canadian legislators may soon pass a law extending the right to physician assistance in dying, also known as physician-assisted suicide, to the mentally ill.

The possibility of such a move, which would bring Canadian policy somewhat into line with Dutch and Belgian policies, stems from a 2015 decision by the nation’s highest court that mentally competent Canadian adults suffering “intolerably and enduringly” from a physical ailment have the right to a doctor’s help in dying. Since that decision, Canadian lawmakers have been working to revise their statutes so they conform to the high court’s ruling.

The debate gained attention because of the suicide of prominent blogger Adam Maier-Clayton, 27. He suffered from severe mental illness and argued for including those like himself – who tried numerous medications, treatments and therapies that did not relieve his torment – in the classes of people covered by assisted suicide laws.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/20/ass...allow.html

I don't know what to think this it seems like it can be easily abused anyone suffering from depression could easily just go in and end their life

Post: #2

How is someone mentally ill supposed to be considered competent to decide to end his life?

There are already pain and panic free ways of committing suicide that anybody with functioning arms can pull off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bag

Speaking as someone who has been fighting severe depression and PTSD for years--and winning, lately--this strikes me as some attention seeking crybaby bullshit. You want to kill yourself? Sack up and do it, don't try to push it off on someone else.

I do have sympathy for people who are suffering from terminal illnesses and chronic debilitating diseases, and I do agree informed assisted suicide there is rational. But this is ridiculous. If you're sane enough to exist outside an asylum without representing a danger to society, you're probably not suffering as badly compared to everyone else as you think you are. Life is hard for most people. Deal with it.

Post: #3

I think this is an incredibly dangerous road to start going down. If this had been an option, I may have taken it a few years ago, before finding a way to overcome my problems. An unwell person isn't going to make a rational choice.

There are people with incredibly severe, unmanageable mental illnesses like schizophrenia but those people are not competent to make a decision like this anyways.

Post: #4

So basically more than half the nation is eligible, based on the fact theyre mentally ill enough to elect a homosexual cuck who loves Muslim immigration and sits with his legs crossed like a fag.

Post: #5

It was inevitable. "Compassion" as window dressing for a way to help cut health care spending on terminally ill patients.

Europe leads the way in this regard yet again. Belgium, Netherlands are at the front of the pack, and abuses of the system are frightening.

Montreal-area doctor Paul Saba is a strong opponent of any such legislation: Brief to Standing Committee on
Justice & Human Rights on Physician-Assisted “Dying”

Post: #6

(04-22-2017 04:01 PM)weambulance Wrote:  I do have sympathy for people who are suffering from terminal illnesses and chronic debilitating diseases, and I do agree informed assisted suicide there is rational. But this is ridiculous. If you're sane enough to exist outside an asylum without representing a danger to society, you're probably not suffering as badly compared to everyone else as you think you are. Life is hard for most people. Deal with it.

There are plenty of people whose mental illnesses make them a danger to society, but who won't end up in an asylum because the state doesn't want to take on the responsibility of caring for them till they actually commit a crime. Then they will be thrown in prison instead of a mental hospital. (I actually support that policy, though, because otherwise people can lose their liberty based on the Addington v. Texas "clear and convincing evidence" standard, rather than the higher "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard used in criminal proceedings.)

Or, in the case of women with borderline personality disorder, the state just lets them run amok, wreaking havoc wherever they go with their irresponsible behavior and false rape accusations. As Dramatica notes, "They constantly lie, manipulate, leech off of, and generally piss off everyone around them and in their lives. Like with all made-up disorders that really point to someone with just a really shitty personality, no cure has been found, and therefore all of the normal members of society must suffer even more due to these abominations of humans existing. Fortunately, sufferers of the disorder are also highly likely to kill themselves, and rightfully so."

I have to wonder, if someone would be impulsive enough to kill themselves because of a temporary problem, what else might they be impulsive enough to do? Anyway, I think we should legalize barbiturates, and then the severely depressed won't need to ask for the assistance of others in killing themselves. There's a very long list of illustrious persons who found the DIY approach worked fine.

Post: #7

I think this will only be for severe mental illnesses that are not treatable. For example if someone is suffering from years of depression and has tried everything to make their life better and medications and therapy are not working for them. Then I think they should have a right to end their life in a painless and comfortable way. As someone whose battled with depression I empathize with these people who feel the their life is hopeless though I managed to overcome most of my depression some people are not that lucky.

Post: #8

(04-22-2017 04:35 PM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  I think this will only be for severe mental illnesses that are not treatable.

So, like this bad?



I'd help her out on this one.

Post: #9

hmm. Belgium, Daneland and Canadia have an influx of Islam in their country. Related?

Post: #10

Can someone with severe mental illness enter into contracts in Canada?

With the Canadian health care system as it is, can you sue doctors for malpractice?

Aloha!

Post: #11

(04-22-2017 05:24 PM)Kona Wrote:  Can someone with severe mental illness enter into contracts in Canada?

With the Canadian health care system as it is, can you sue doctors for malpractice?

Aloha!

It is much more difficult to win against your doctor in Canada but yes you can sue them.

Post: #12

(04-22-2017 04:40 PM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 04:35 PM)TheWhiteWolf Wrote:  I think this will only be for severe mental illnesses that are not treatable.

So, like this bad?



I'd help her out on this one.

Fuck man, put a warning up first.

Post: #13

(04-22-2017 04:57 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  hmm. Belgium, Daneland and Canadia have an influx of Islam in their country. Related?

Yes, related. All those migrants cost money and those deadbeats really are a drain on the system, so...

Post: #14

(04-22-2017 04:40 PM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  So, like this bad?



I'd help her out on this one.

I know you are joking, but in saner societies, that young woman would have married in her late teens to her first boyfriend and she'd have been happy, even without antidepressants.

Post: #15

This is a very very dangerous turn of events.

It's a well known practice for all totalitarian regimes to imprison political prisoners in psychiatric hospitals instead of prisons.

Many of them are so drugged then that they actually do lose sanity. In former USSR many of those political prisoners imprisoned in psychiatric hospitals remained imprisoned even after the fall of the totalitarian regime. Those who were imprisoned in prisons were set free but mental hospital prisoners remain in capture to this day because either they have really gone insane there or there is simply no way to recognize them as political prisoners, because their biographies are falsified and the state (including doctors, which show that psychiatric medicine is grossly inaccurate and subjective) recognize them as crazy people.

Now with this assisted suicide law it will be easy to kill political prisoners for the rising leftist totalitarian regime.

The left is already accusing normal people for at least two fictional psychiatric diseases: Islamophobia and Homophobia. When they will start imprisoning people in mental hospitals for these "deseases" they will already have a ruling to assassinate thought dissidents. Neat.

Post: #16

(04-22-2017 09:15 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 04:40 PM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  So, like this bad?



I'd help her out on this one.

I know you are joking, but in saner societies, that young woman would have married in her late teens to her first boyfriend and she'd have been happy, even without antidepressants.

This thot threatened to call the police on me on Facebook because I posted Jamaican Dub Music. Her white knights also PM'ed me claiming that Vybz Kartel Youtube video I posted on my Facebook Feed was "Misogynistic".

Aurelie Nix appear to be a big-time fucking police informant and snitch & I really hope that she will be the first one to voluntarily sign up for that weird proposal by the Canadian government, because she appears to act a fucking informant to the police.

I also hope her Toronto cunterpart Chanty Binx also arrives to the doctor's office to seek that treatment from the Canadian government. No one will really fucking shed a tear on those femiNazi informants, spies and instigator.

Post: #17

(04-22-2017 05:24 PM)Kona Wrote:  Can someone with severe mental illness enter into contracts in Canada?

With the Canadian health care system as it is, can you sue doctors for malpractice?

Aloha!

It is almost impossible to sue a doctor in Canada.

The system here is not set up like the States.

A relative of mine got mis-diagnosed and was operated on for something completely unrelated. In America they would have received a fortune, here the governing body got involved and that was the end of it.

Post: #18

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Post: #19

(04-23-2017 07:21 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 05:24 PM)Kona Wrote:  Can someone with severe mental illness enter into contracts in Canada?

With the Canadian health care system as it is, can you sue doctors for malpractice?

Aloha!

It is almost impossible to sue a doctor in Canada.

The system here is not set up like the States.

A relative of mine got mis-diagnosed and was operated on for something completely unrelated. In America they would have received a fortune, here the governing body got involved and that was the end of it.

That's why assisted suicide for crazies will work, then.

If someone's family found out the doctor helped them kill themselves they'd get the crap sued out of them.

Aloha!

Post: #20

(04-22-2017 04:26 PM)RIslander Wrote:  So basically more than half the nation is eligible, based on the fact theyre mentally ill enough to elect a homosexual cuck who loves Muslim immigration and sits with his legs crossed like a fag.

It sounds like you know almost nothing about the Canadian political system.

Far fewer than half the people of Canada elected Trudeau. In fact, it's unlikely that more than 100,000 people voted for him.

Post: #21

^I am not a fan of his, but he got a lot more votes than 100K.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of...tion,_2015

Post: #22

64.5% of Newfieland, the oldest, fattest, and most homogenous population, voted for him, higher % than any other province. Stupid!

Some mentally ill should be put to rest if all else fails, but damn if this isn't a slippery slope should someone determine you mentally unwell for your opinions.

Post: #23

I found this implementation dangerous, I am for legalization of people who suffer physical pain/are terminally ill/etc, but exactly how people pointed here if someone is mentally ill how can that person do competent decision?
What I am afraid of is even easier misuse, in communism era in eastern block those who were considered enemies of state were often branded as mentally ill and put into asylums, fed opiates and told to general public that only mentally ill are against socialism/communism.

Given current state in Canada, this is truly dangerous as it can be easily used to get rid of people who desire free speech, traditional values and more things which leftists hates. There is nothing easier than to fabricate this and when said person protest against it then to claim that he/she lost last bits of sense and that doctors will continue with his decision made before.

I am not saying this would not be possible with euthanasia in case of terminal illness and unbearable pain, but would be legally harder because of legal sanity of said patient.

Post: #24

¨This isn't communist China, not yet.

Post: #25

In Netherlands state assisted suicide is already one of the top 5 leading causes of death.

Depression is reason enough.

That is the future - why pay pensions, when they can simply off you when you feel down?



Globalists are on a roll.