Post: #1

Except for a married girl is used to bang, who I'm now good friends with, girls never make contact with me suggesting to meet up or asking what I'm up to.
I'm doing a little experiment with a girl I went on a date with (no bang) But, she likes me.
Instead of me suggesting things, I want here to do that.
Need some advice here.

Post: #2

Women aren't usually the pursuers and the aggressors when it comes to initiating interaction with the other sex.

Men usually:
-Approach
-Get the number
-Set the date up
-Bring them to their pad
-Initiate sex
-Lead the relationship
-Lease the marriage

You aren't going to find many women who pursue you. (unless you're the top 5%)

You saying to a girl, "Oh why don't you you tell me what you want to do/where to go/what to X"

That will dry up a girl pussy and kill any sexual thoughts she has of you.

The majority of girls like a man who leads and has a plan, especially when it comes to dating. (This is a turn on for most women, remember "dominance")


My advice, sack up, take the initiative, be the leader, make the plans, and have fun with the woman who tags along.

Post: #3

Have a higher SMV than hers, and depending on how the scene is where you're at, you got to be well above 2 or 3 points in the 1-10 scale to have her to pursue you and taking the initiative. If she isn't pursuing you then she doesn't like you enough.

"There's no love, only hipergamy"

Post: #4

I learned my lessons on asking women to make plans last year. A women I texted on ok cupid replied, suggesting we have coffee on saturday. I asked "where?" (I should have picked the place)
I'm looking for teasers to use, that would lead to her asking me to come over to hers for a drink

Post: #5

Ah well that's different from what I initially read in your OP.

One line of thinking comes to mind, suggestions:

"So when are you going to invite me over for drinks and a tour of your place"

"When are your going to show me around your neighborhood"

"When are you going to take me out for drinks"


Basically just suggestive lines that will get her thinking - but be prepared for her to say "you tell me" "what do you want to do", even better, "when are you coming over"

It won't work all the time, Wolf brings up a great point of SMV, as i mentioned being in the top 5%.

Most guys will have to work to bang the girl, it's not hard to punch above your weight, but it does take work and some skill.

Post: #6

Since I know this girls drink of choice, I've been thinking about buying a bottle of wine, send her a pic of it and write "this is really good"

Post: #7

I took a girl on a first date, and invited her back to my place on the pretext of lending her an English movie. I had only just met her, so didn't want to escalate too far. I'd just banged a girl the day before too, so my plan was just to build comfort and all that.

Still, I maybe managed to trigger her ASD, as the next weekend she declined a date as she was too busy "...and everyday this week", and left it with a text "I'll let you know when I'm free", to which I responded "Ok)))" and considered it dead.

However, a couple of days ago I waked past her on the street whilst she was on the phone. I wasn't totally sure it was her, as she was wearing spring clothes (as oppose to hat and scarf) and had hair up. So I just walked past and went to the cafe I was headed to anyway.

A few minutes later she walked in, spotted me, and initiated enthusiastic conversation. We left it that we'd text each other (both busy that day).

My plan was just to leave it and see if she texts, and then initiate if not, but having read this thread maybe its a good idea to be more proactive? Maintain momentum?

Post: #8

They do.

One case I can recall I opened her on the streets of NG (nightgame).

She was a 9-10 around 20 years of age too (prime). Was expecting a blowout, but got massive IOIs instead. Even told me to sit down next to her (still wasn't used to 9-10 game at the time & was doing standing up game while she was already sitting down). Some playful kino happened after that.

I got her contact & left the set. I was going to text her later on for a Day 2, but she ended up initiating a text just a few minutes after I left the set. Never had that experience before & ended up doing text game with her on the spot as she was replying instantaneously. She also responded positively through the rest of the week so the interest wasn't just limited to the night. My follow through game abilities had some hiccups so I couldn't Day 2 her (long story), but the Approach + Hook was better than standard as you can see.

This is an outlier case, but it shows you can get surprising results even among the 9-10 demographic. My game is better now, but I'm not gonna lie & say expect this kind of thing regularly.

Better game allows you to capitalize better on opportunities, not create magic out of thin air haha.

Post: #9

If shes not blowing your phone up, she's not especially into you.

The very best thing I did for my game this year is download an app that intercepts all my texts from women im gaming, and hides them away. I have to enter a secret code on my dialer just to access the app.

I literally will forget to check this app for hours at a time. By the time I check it there are a handful of texts from chicks getting mad AF cause I'm not responding.

Just a little bit of artificial scarcity can go such a long way.

Post: #10

Name of app?

Post: #11

Private SMS by thinkyeah

That's on android. Not sure how that plays out for iPhone peeps.

Post: #12

Man acts, woman reacts. It's been evolutionarily hard-wired over millions of years. Granted, heavy propagandist culture can affect it and mess up people's heads and a few quirky tribes in forgotten lands have weird set ups but you can't neglect the basic fact men on average have 12 times more serum testosterone then women. A properly feminine women, with adequately balanced estrogen to testosterone will feel out of place to be a pursuant. She will signal her availability and interest, look at you, smile, perhaps message and be enthusiastic but it's you who is going to go for a kiss and, undress her and put your dick in her. She'll just show you she's ready and willingly co-operate. As a man, would you actually want it otherwise?

Post: #13

(03-26-2018 10:02 PM)Steelex Wrote:  If shes not blowing your phone up, she's not especially into you.

I disagree with this heuristic. Never had a girl blow up my phone prior sex. After, yes, and some of those girls appeared to be very much into me for shorter or longer period of time. But it would require an extended discussion what makes a girl to fall for a man at a neurobiological level of apetitive behaviour, mechanism of reward, prediction error, neuromodulators such as dopamine, and so forth. There's no magic. Genes, neurophysiology, brain's morphology, endocrine system, once understood with our social environment, paint a predictable picture of behaviour. Science suggests that the dynamic can change massively after sex and pair bonding behaviour. Girl's brain and body become flooded by dopamine, oxytocin, vasopressin and other neuromodulators, hence, as long as there's and INCREASED flow of those, you'll be in a driver's seat. Once it's gone, the girls is gone. And there are no exceptions. Sometimes sooner, sometimes later but the "brain high" will be one day over and her infatuation in you is over.

Perhaps, It may be a self-selection bias such that I choose girls who prefer to be passive, lured and pursued by a man in a mating dance then the more enterprising girls with more testosterone in their bodies.

Post: #14

(03-26-2018 06:49 PM)nordicplayer Wrote:  Since I know this girls drink of choice, I've been thinking about buying a bottle of wine, send her a pic of it and write "this is really good"

too much work and investment on your side . if she is attracted to you using one of the suggestive lines Kaotic mentioned should be enough.

Post: #15

Women who like you will respond, but only the most predatory of whores or clingers will initiate

Post: #16

The only women that pursue you, are generally the ones you are not really interested in....

Post: #17

Private SMS is a great app, have been using that for a few months myself.

Post: #18

Lot of Occam's Razor in this post.

Maybe split the difference: if a girl really likes you, she will [initiate | respond] ==> let's just call it, she will Make It Relatively Easy For You.

Even a girl who doesn't want to appear easy, won't sit there and "purposely not answer you" for hours (i.e. playing games) because there's no reason for her to.

If a girl likes you, she will respond, perhaps initiate, perhaps not wait as long as you want. I've always experienced this when a girl is into me.

BTW -- it is Not the case that only girls you lack interest in take any action -- imagine a Venn Diagram. The girls who are into you, that you are also into, will at least not play extra games delaying responses. There's some room there for a girl who you like to actually like you and text like a normal person.

Remember: if you made a real impression on her when you met, she is curious about you and wants to satisfy her curiosity. She's not sitting there like a vendor skeptical of a customer who wants the goods only for a low price. If she likes you, she's thinking about HERSELF and what SHE wants, not so much blocking you from what you want.

It's girls who are "so-so" about us that create most of the hoops and silence and "what ifs".

Post: #19

(03-26-2018 10:02 PM)Steelex Wrote:  If shes not blowing your phone up, she's not especially into you.

The very best thing I did for my game this year is download an app that intercepts all my texts from women im gaming, and hides them away. I have to enter a secret code on my dialer just to access the app.

I literally will forget to check this app for hours at a time. By the time I check it there are a handful of texts from chicks getting mad AF cause I'm not responding.

Just a little bit of artificial scarcity can go such a long way.

Steelex is on point here, especially that first line. Wise up my dudes, because this is the truth.

You should lead the interaction for the first 2-3 weeks at most, but after that if you're doing everything right with a pre-screened girl, she will be the one hitting you up.

As soon as she hits you up, make the next date and get off the phone. You're training her basically. Teaching her that when she contacts you because she's thinking about you, that you will make the next date.

He's also right about not being too available. I used to make the mistake of screwing around and texting bitches all throughout the day. That dries them up faster than the Sahara.

Be busy. My women know that with my job, I'm not going to respond to them during the day, and I might not even respond that calendar day. There's a status element associated with that, basically that you value your mission above their pointless bullshit. Puts you in the superior frame.

Post: #20

Western bitches are inherently lazy. That's why you should try and fuck a whore an hour after meeting her. Text game is overrated she got 96 unread texts from thirsty cats. And here comes your 97th. Always try your best to bang an hour after meet.