Post: #101

I urge everyone to download direct from Roosh site - you can get his whole life works in a bundle for $35 (Way too cheap Roosh!)

Its a great way to give the nazi book banning globobastards the finger!

Post: #102

When you are reliant on third parties.
You are reliant on their mercy.
If they have any...

Post: #103

Completely ridiculous. I already bought the book from your site directly, and after reading it can't see how they ban this and yet they have books on how to build explosives, wire-taps, infiltration.

These books on any reasonable scale are more damaging than teaching a guy how to talk to a girl at a coffee shop and ask her where to find the nearest pet shop.

Another demonstration of how one-sided things really are.

I'm sure Amazon (like Google, Facebook and others) has an entirely far-left team to find "inappropriate content" on the site and remove it.

Best of luck Roosh, I hope you find ways to make sales elsewhere, it's honestly ridiculous that you have to go through this.

Post: #104

This is an opportunity to ride the book banning controversy. Need to hit social media about this

Post: #105

The least I can do for this community and you Roosh. Whose teachings saved my life is to give you a bit of help in here bro. Downloaded the whole lifeworks which I was really interested previously but couldn't afford it at regular price. Stay strong.

Post: #106

Roosh I would very much like to buy the physical copy of the paperback. I love the cover and would be glad to have it sitting on my shelf. If there is any other way for us to get a hard copy of the physical copy please let us know. Purchasing the e-book will be my last resort. Thanks for all the work you do.

Post: #107

I just got off the phone with Amazon. They said that there were two complaints from verified customers, which put the book into automatic limbo (doesn't explain the other 8 titles). Told them that I'd be boycotting them if the book doesn't return and pulling my novel from their service as well. The supervisor said he'd pass this on to the marketing team.

Post: #108

Sorry to hear that Roosh, but I can't be surprised.

To anyone out there - it's not about Game or pickup or any real "offensive" topics. Just checked and all the books by Nick Krauser are online - he is twice as "offensive" to women, but he stays clear from politics even if his views are more to the right than Roosh.

This was and is a personal attack on Roosh. They attack money first and Frame Games mentioned it.

What I found interesting for example with the Infowars banning was that Mastercard , Paypal and all the financial payment systems had Infowars open for business. Think what you want from that, but money is the first they try to shut down.

It's not a total de-platforming, more like an increased warning. Maybe if Roosh deleted all his political content on all sites, behaved like a good boy and only talked about seduction, then after 1-3 years they would throw him a bone or two - who knows.

It's regrettable, but that is the world we live in.

And make no mistake about it - they don't give a shit about Roosh's seduction techniques and men learning Game. It's about something else altogether and they are just using this latest episode to reign it in.

Post: #109

(09-10-2018 06:40 PM)Aurini Wrote:  I just got off the phone with Amazon. They said that there were two complaints from verified customers, which put the book into automatic limbo (doesn't explain the other 8 titles). Told them that I'd be boycotting them if the book doesn't return and pulling my novel from their service as well. The supervisor said he'd pass this on to the marketing team.

If that is all there is, then there is a recourse to that.

Post: #110

(09-10-2018 06:40 PM)Aurini Wrote:  I just got off the phone with Amazon. They said that there were two complaints from verified customers, which put the book into automatic limbo (doesn't explain the other 8 titles). Told them that I'd be boycotting them if the book doesn't return and pulling my novel from their service as well. The supervisor said he'd pass this on to the marketing team.

So if you and I reported 50 Shades of Gay....they'd pull it off too? I know their excuse is BS because I'm sure they received more than 2 reports from the Baptist cuckoos about 50 shades.

Post: #111

(09-10-2018 01:34 PM)The Golden God Wrote:  Mike has jumped in on this now too, even with his little grudge against Roosh...

i have never heard of any kind of grudge between them, so don't say this type of stuff

Post: #112

Bought 'Game' about an hour ago on Roosh's website. Through Chapter 1, solid read. Looking forward to flying through this one.

I've heard good things especially about the second half of the book.

Post: #113

One of the downfalls of these massive corporations like Amazon is they suck all the 'foot traffic', same goes for eBay
Small sites like Roosh's e-shop are mainly supported by us. I figure Roosh generates more sales from Amazon than his because of this basic fact
He has, like Flulrich stated, set up shop on their platform and developed his profile, they have swept the carpet from under him for what looks like political reasons and not content violations as they claim
It will cost Roosh valuable time and money to address and remedy this and calls into question what Griffinmill accurately posted earlier, what does his 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech really mean in today's Cultural Marxist Orwellian world?

Post: #114

I just contacted a Amazon rep to let them know I will be moving my AWS services to a different provider. I made sure to point out that everything I purchase is available through other online stores for the same price. I understand this won't help, but wanted to show more support besides picking up your book.

Post: #115

(09-10-2018 06:46 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 06:40 PM)Aurini Wrote:  I just got off the phone with Amazon. They said that there were two complaints from verified customers, which put the book into automatic limbo (doesn't explain the other 8 titles). Told them that I'd be boycotting them if the book doesn't return and pulling my novel from their service as well. The supervisor said he'd pass this on to the marketing team.

So if you and I reported 50 Shades of Gay....they'd pull it off too? I know their excuse is BS because I'm sure they received more than 2 reports from the Baptist cuckoos about 50 shades.

Good point. Why don't some of us complain that it violates The Violence Against Women Act?

We should get 5-6 people to do this and see if they pull it out of their site.

Post: #116

The lessons to be learned are numerous. Roosh's amazon banning is a testcase for anyone NOT left of center that is publishing on amazon.

Key takeaways for any manosphere men thinking of doing book businesses are the following:

1) make and use your own store and do the internet marketing/email collection route and make sure the google search algorithm is favourable for long tail search terms. offer paypal, stripe, atleast a few alternatives and crypto. prepare yourself for blockchain becoming more of a thing. always be aware, google can delist you and your host domain can drop you from public pressure.

2) if you're making a book that is controversial but is useful and will sell well don't attach it to your manosphere social media. i know thats the opposite of using your social media as promotion but if they know who you are they will target you.
Kindle erotic book authors do this all the time. there are a lot on reddit, they're just guys that pen name themselves sally everhart or some crap, get a eyecatching book cover for kindle and then just silently collect money from amazon. They don't brag openly and collect checks

3)the conservative myth of building parallel institutions doesn't work [right now].
Mike covered this in a recent video rant about alex jones banning. if you're on their platforms you have to play by their ever changing rules, its possible to do but you can't speak freely . Alex "bullied" oliver darcy and that gave twitter the excuse it was wanting to go ham on him. Then apple took him off. now he's just shouting into the wind. They tried to start their own domain registrar but ICANN won't let them. Yes there are even rules for what ICANN will give out to top level domains. there's no parallel institution rising up.


While i'm saying roosh should still do absolutely everything legally possible to get his books up there some of us more anonymous manosphere types looking to build a business should think about decoupling our views on the sexual marketplace and politics from our ability to earn money online.

An example of this is Naomi wu/ sexy cyborg. She's a 4ft something long haired Maker in china with big fake boobs, high heels bimbo outfits and a penchant for electronics and programming. What she did to earn money whilst still in china is become a ruby on rails programmer and act as a male programmer. That way she could get work independent of who she was and how she looked. She then started a patreon [as all women that look good will do] and youtube series before some shitheads at vice doxxed her relationship status and it ended up with her severely compromised on what she can do or promote on youtube, and also on how she can use paypal.

The reason i'm giving this example is that her early strategy of anonymising her work online so she could say what she wanted and still have a job, is what people need to do.

You all [myself included] need to be drop shipping, doing affiliate stores, transcription work, anything and everything that does not depend on our own personal identities in order to get paid.

If you think parallel institutions [like an alternative to amazon or twitter] will save us think again, they just act as herding rooms for anyone interesting which then get cannibalised by companies and government.

you gotta think of this like the ken burns vietnam war series and ho chi minh did with the vietminh [i'm talking metaphorically and speaking in terms of business and competition]

how did they win? they didn't win by having a better parallel institution. they won by guerilla tactics.

so in terms of business, finance and self reliance, every manosphere person that wants to be able to speak freely should have businesses that don't depend on their personal identity in order to get work.

even then if you cause enough stink they'll cause the IRS to do an audit, but atleast your income and living can be independent of your identity, views of male-female relations or politics.


Also we need more people familiar with blockchain and crypto [leaving aside short term speculative gains from price fluctuations, we need people to understand decentralised commerce better because thats potentially where real financial freedom can be achieved]

the alternative solution in terms of freedom is to go full agricultural route, buy a farm with a strong tightknit social community and make sure your free speech is in real life and not online where it may get your family or friends work affected.

Post: #117

Just ordered the e-book via Roosh's online store.

No commission for you Amazon.

Post: #118

(09-10-2018 07:24 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 06:46 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 06:40 PM)Aurini Wrote:  I just got off the phone with Amazon. They said that there were two complaints from verified customers, which put the book into automatic limbo (doesn't explain the other 8 titles). Told them that I'd be boycotting them if the book doesn't return and pulling my novel from their service as well. The supervisor said he'd pass this on to the marketing team.

So if you and I reported 50 Shades of Gay....they'd pull it off too? I know their excuse is BS because I'm sure they received more than 2 reports from the Baptist cuckoos about 50 shades.

Good point. Why don't some of us complain that it violates The Violence Against Women Act?

We should get 5-6 people to do this and see if they pull it out of their site.

But then that means we'd have to buy the book since Amazon considered the opinions from "verified customers".

Post: #119

I dunno, I bought a copy of the audiobook on Monday off Amazon and I still have it - listening to it right now.

Working for me! Wondering if there's a way to save and secure the download before they force kill it as an unauthorized surviving example. I guess I have to keep wifi off for the time being while the Amazon cups are making the rounds.

Post: #120

Post: #121

(09-10-2018 07:26 PM)gonzoman925 Wrote:  An example of this is Naomi wu/ sexy cyborg. She's a 4ft something long haired Maker in china with big fake boobs, high heels bimbo outfits and a penchant for electronics and programming. What she did to earn money whilst still in china is become a ruby on rails programmer and act as a male programmer. That way she could get work independent of who she was and how she looked. She then started a patreon [as all women that look good will do] and youtube series before some shitheads at vice doxxed her relationship status and it ended up with her severely compromised on what she can do or promote on youtube, and also on how she can use paypal.

The reason i'm giving this example is that her early strategy of anonymising her work online so she could say what she wanted and still have a job, is what people need to do.

What was the 'relationship status' and how or why did it cause problems?

Post: #122

HuffPost claims responsibility...

Quote:Amazon banned the books after HuffPost reached out to ask whether Obama’s content was in violation of the company’s hate speech policy

https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/...1db3e54945

and the livestream ban too...

Quote:After HuffPost reached out to YouTube, the company deleted one video from Obama’s channel for violating its hate speech policy and banned him from livestreaming for three months.

Post: #123

(09-10-2018 07:42 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 07:24 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 06:46 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 06:40 PM)Aurini Wrote:  I just got off the phone with Amazon. They said that there were two complaints from verified customers, which put the book into automatic limbo (doesn't explain the other 8 titles). Told them that I'd be boycotting them if the book doesn't return and pulling my novel from their service as well. The supervisor said he'd pass this on to the marketing team.

So if you and I reported 50 Shades of Gay....they'd pull it off too? I know their excuse is BS because I'm sure they received more than 2 reports from the Baptist cuckoos about 50 shades.

Good point. Why don't some of us complain that it violates The Violence Against Women Act?

We should get 5-6 people to do this and see if they pull it out of their site.

But then that means we'd have to buy the book since Amazon considered the opinions from "verified customers".

Good observation. OK, then. Change of plan. Find something you bought -- anything -- and find something offensive about it. Then complain, asking how come Roosh is offensive and that product isn't.

Example: I just went through my old orders and found I'd bought a CD by obscure artist Connie Converse. She supposedly committed suicide. Isn't selling her CD glorifying that and encouraging others to do the same?

Then there's the vintage Gallery magazines I bought from my youth (ban porn!), the German-language Peggy March CDs (Nazi music?), and some early Beach Boys stuff (sexism, American imperialism, non-inclusive, classist, probably racist too).

As you can see, ANYTHING can be offensive. I'll be more than happy to send them a message for EVERY order I ever bought, asking them to explain how it's not offensive.

Post: #124

(09-10-2018 08:07 PM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  HuffPost claims responsibility...

Quote:Amazon banned the books after HuffPost reached out to ask whether Obama’s content was in violation of the company’s hate speech policy

https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/...1db3e54945

and the livestream ban too...

Quote:After HuffPost reached out to YouTube, the company deleted one video from Obama’s channel for violating its hate speech policy and banned him from livestreaming for three months.

It'll get reversed and put back on Amazon. When that happens you should file a lawsuit against Huffington Post for deliberate financial sabotage.

Post: #125

(09-10-2018 08:07 PM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  HuffPost claims responsibility...

Quote:Amazon banned the books after HuffPost reached out to ask whether Obama’s content was in violation of the company’s hate speech policy

https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/...1db3e54945

and the livestream ban too...

Quote:After HuffPost reached out to YouTube, the company deleted one video from Obama’s channel for violating its hate speech policy and banned him from livestreaming for three months.

Doubtful. They contacted me in July, which I assume is when they contacted Amazon. So Amazon takes no action until Game comes out? From my perspective, Game's rising sales was the most proximal trigger.

Another sign they are unlikely to be responsible is that their victory article went up 12 hours after the ban. When a media site ushers in a ban, they often have a story out right as the ban happens, WITH a quote from the company saying, "We don't support hate speech, etc." They have no quote. 12 hours is a LONG time for the media to take credit for something. Even terrorists are much faster.

If they are responsible, then a whole lot of other authors have to be worried if one email from a soy boy journalist is all it takes to get banned. Then again, Alex Jones was shut down mostly by the pestering of Oliver Darcy from CNN.