Post: #76

(01-24-2013 07:58 PM)Technics Wrote:  My brother,

I do ONE of those six activities I mentioned 3-4 times per month, not "rock-climbing every weekend" as you said. We're hip to your belittling tactics at RVF--just please disagree tastefully without twisting my words to make what I wrote appear to be ridiculous (".00000001% of people" nonsense)

Sorry, I didn't try to come off as "mean". I am trying to work on that.

But you have to admit, most people aren't doing all these "outdoor activities" as frequently as you are. You are in a very small percentage, right?

You used the same line of reasoning with me about my location independent comment.

Fair is fair.

Quote:Also, I definitely agree with you about sharing the wealth. I've been thinking about the Miami/LA data-sheets, but I haven't made some yet as both are so well covered here and due to the time to write a data-sheet the way I like.

If you notice, I have contributed on LA and Miami threads, answering guy's questions, sometimes right in there with your own comments.

That said, I still might write something if I feel like I can really shed light on something that hasn't already been covered.

Yeah, break it down. This forum isn't about one person writing a Data Sheet and it's a wrap.

(01-24-2013 08:07 PM)Technics Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 08:04 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Has anyone brought up weather? The climate in Socal is amazing. One of the best in the world, and easily the best in the United States. Few places I've been have a similar climate (parts of Chile, Spain, Lebanon and Israel). There's just something about getting off the plane and walking around LA or San Diego on a sunny day that just puts you in a good, laid back kind of mood.

HC,

Yes, I love the weather in LA and SD, but I don't really mention it in a "versus" discussion because I also love Miami weather.

Actually contrary to most people, I give the slight edge to Miami. I'll take oppressive summers combined with swimming in the ocean 10 months per year versus LA more mild summers, but swimming only 3 months per year.

I have actually poured over historical weather Data going back decades.

Basically, South Beach has better weather than San Diego (using San Diego because it has the best weather) 5 months of the year.

San Diego has better weather than South Beach 4 months of the year.

3 months even.

(01-24-2013 08:09 PM)snoop Wrote:  I don't really get the whole "CA has skiing" part of the debate....sure its technically CA, but if you have to drive 7 or 8 hours, how is that so much better than just catching a flight from Miami to Colorado?

Also, people surf and can do all the water activites in Florida too, so that's another point I don't really get. seems like a push to me in the "activities" category.

My point exactly.

People will say California has great skiing yet it is 8 hours away. Technically this is correct, I guess.

But then people say Florida isn't good for surfing and a very short, closer plane ride is Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, Panama, Barbados etc.

Wash for sure.

Post: #77

G Manifesto,

1) You can be mean all you want. Just be ACCURATE when you reference what I say.

Also, hiking, skiing, snowboarding, and surfing are VERY popular among those in Los Angeles. Surely you know this from your years here, so no I am not in the small percentage of people who does these activities by any means.

2) Fair enough about the data-sheets. Maybe I'll do something on outdoors activities for those in SoCal. We'll have you on the slopes in a custom suit in no-time.

3) Interesting about the weather data. It lines up perfectly with what I wrote just before your comment, in that I just kind of had a general feeling that I like Miami weather slightly better. Which are the months that SD is better than Miami?

4) Big Bear lake is a 2 hour drive, even if you start right at the sand of Santa Monica beach. So skiing is not 7-8 hours away. And if you'll say next that Big Bear isn't all that, well that's up for debate, but by contrast there is NO skiing within 2 hours drive of Miami.

Also, let's be real: there is no comparison between DRIVING somewhere 2 hours and FLYING 2 hours. Flying requires plane ticket, possibly advance reservation, risk of missing flight, and all the gear can be extremely costly (especially if it's a snowboard or surf-board you're taking with you).

By no means am I hating on Miami though. Miami is fantastic, and there are certainly huge points in favor of Miami over LA.

Post: #78

(01-24-2013 08:28 PM)Technics Wrote:  G Manifesto,

1) You can be mean all you want. Just be ACCURATE when you reference what I say.

Also, hiking, skiing, snowboarding, and surfing are VERY popular among those in Los Angeles. Surely you know this from your years here, so no I am not in the small percentage of people who does these activities by any means.

I was saying a small percentage of people that do those activities as frequently as you.

Sure. Guys surf everyday. But those guys aren't rockclimbing 15 times in a month on top of that.

You also omitted rock climbing again.

Quote:2) Fair enough about the data-sheets. Maybe I'll do something on outdoors activities for those in SoCal. We'll have you on the slopes in a custom suit in no-time.

There you go, let's keep this positive.

Quote:3) Interesting about the weather data. It lines up perfectly with what I wrote just before your comment, in that I just kind of had a general feeling that I like Miami weather slightly better. Which are the months that SD is better than Miami?

June, July, Aug, Sept.

Quote:4) Big Bear lake is a 2 hour drive, even if you start right at the sand of Santa Monica beach. So skiing is not 7-8 hours away. And if you'll say next that Big Bear isn't all that, well that's up for debate, but by contrast there is NO skiing within 2 hours drive of Miami.

Fair enough. You are right. This is like you saying can never surf in Miami.

Thankfully, I don't give a f*ck about skiing or snowboarding.

Quote:Also, let's be real: there is no comparison between DRIVING somewhere 2 hours and FLYING 2 hours. Flying requires plane ticket, possibly advance reservation, risk of missing flight, and all the gear can be extremely costly (especially if it's a snowboard or surf-board you're taking with you).

Personally I would way rather fly. So I agree with you on your point but for different reasons.

Quote:By no means am I hating on Miami though. Miami is fantastic, and there are certainly huge points in favor of Miami over LA.

I know. This was an intelligent discussion.

I appreciate that.

Just repped you. +1.

Post: #79

G Manifesto,

Ok, I'm satisfied with our discussion.

Last question: Where the hell is there surfing in Miami? I suppose I missed it all those years (not being sarcastic).

Post: #80

(01-24-2013 08:44 PM)Technics Wrote:  G Manifesto,

Ok, I'm satisfied with our discussion.

Last question: Where the hell is there surfing in Miami? I suppose I missed it all those years (not being sarcastic).

Me too.

Hurricane Sandy South Beach:







http://www.swellinfo.com/gallery/showima...=newimages

http://surf.transworld.net/1000154171/ph...?pid=67820







Not too shabby at all. And you don't get charged 10% to paddle out either. Ha. (Joke).

I actually got a lot of pictures, and my friend took a bunch of me. I was thinking of posting them on The G Manifesto at some point.

Post: #81

(01-24-2013 08:55 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 08:44 PM)Technics Wrote:  G Manifesto,

Ok, I'm satisfied with our discussion.

Last question: Where the hell is there surfing in Miami? I suppose I missed it all those years (not being sarcastic).

Me too.

Hurricane Sandy South Beach:





http://www.swellinfo.com/gallery/showima...=newimages

Not too shabby at all.

I actually got a lot of pictures, and my friend took a bunch of me. I was thinking of posting them on The G Manifesto at some point.

Ah I see. I thought you were joking when you said that. Yes those waves actually kind of look legit.

Funny, the color of the water actually looks like LA beaches to me there.

Post: #82

(01-24-2013 07:29 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 07:15 PM)Technics Wrote:  Even though I can get by no problem in Spanish, I personally find it annoying that a cashier or a customer service person in Miami may not know English.

When I first came to Miami, I wondered, where are the white people at?

What you mentioned is the reason why, you don't get a decent population of whites until you get to Broward.

Miami is unapologetically a Latin American city within the borders of the U.S.

I feel like I'm the only white guy I know who hasn't complained about this. Would you rather have a cashier wearing a cowboy hat telling you to have a "rootin-tootin good time" and offer you some beef jerky? That Americana shit should get old for people who have grown up in the U.S., but maybe I expect too much.

Post: #83

Miami needs a hurricane for good waves. But the Wedge is poppin' all year long:

(01-24-2013 08:04 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  Has anyone brought up weather? The climate in Socal is amazing. One of the best in the world, and easily the best in the United States. Few places I've been have a similar climate (parts of Chile, Spain, Lebanon and Israel). There's just something about getting off the plane and walking around LA or San Diego on a sunny day that just puts you in a good, laid back kind of mood.

Man, I had that exact same feeling when I landed in LAX a few weeks ago. When I got here it looked just like the pic I have below, sunny and clear, mild but still with snow in the mountains.

(01-24-2013 08:09 PM)snoop Wrote:  I don't really get the whole "CA has skiing" part of the debate....sure its technically CA, but if you have to drive 7 or 8 hours, how is that so much better than just catching a flight from Miami to Colorado?

Mt. Baldy is only an hour from downtown LA. Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead 1.5hrs. The Sierras are are 4hrs by car. Though you can now take a flight to Mammoth Mountain airport on Horizon Air by turboprop that'll get you there from LAX in an hour.

Post: #84

(01-24-2013 10:01 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 07:29 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 07:15 PM)Technics Wrote:  Even though I can get by no problem in Spanish, I personally find it annoying that a cashier or a customer service person in Miami may not know English.

When I first came to Miami, I wondered, where are the white people at?

What you mentioned is the reason why, you don't get a decent population of whites until you get to Broward.

Miami is unapologetically a Latin American city within the borders of the U.S.

I feel like I'm the only white guy I know who hasn't complained about this. Would you rather have a cashier wearing a cowboy hat telling you to have a "rootin-tootin good time" and offer you some beef jerky? That Americana shit should get old for people who have grown up in the U.S., but maybe I expect too much.

Ease up there playboy. I don't know why you're coming so hard.

A) You say this as if there are two kinds people in America: non-english speakers and "rootin-tootin' cowboys"?

There also exist non "Americana shit" people who can speak to you in English, if you prefer.

B) Yes, if given the choice, I'll take the rootin'-tootin' cowboy who can speak english over someone who cannot. Sometimes you need to explain something that's complicated and you do not feel like doing it in another language, for any number of reasons.

In an American city, I think it's a mark against that city if there are people in customer service positions who cannot speak English.

I'm not saying it should be law or anything--I'm just saying its a negative.

Post: #85

(01-24-2013 10:32 PM)Technics Wrote:  Ease up there playboy. I don't know why you're coming so hard.

A) You say this as if there are two kinds people in America: non-english speakers and "rootin-tootin' cowboys"?

There also exist non "Americana shit" people who can speak to you in English, if you prefer.

B) Yes, if given the choice, I'll take the rootin'-tootin' cowboy who can speak english over someone who cannot. Sometimes you need to explain something that's complicated and you do not feel like doing it in another language, for any number of reasons.

In an American city, I think it's a mark against that city if there are people in customer service positions who cannot speak English.

I'm not saying it should be law or anything--I'm just saying its a negative.

I've spent the vast majority of my life in the U.S., I was exaggerating to make a point. Some people simply cannot deal with anything beyond their comfort zone - so this is a limiting quality to me. Whether it's speaking a different language and sucking at first or trying a new sport where everyone around you is way better at the game, putting yourself in those situations is how you learn.

Some people just don't care that much and are content to stay in the same area they grew up with the same culture, and maybe try one or two careers and settle down, but I thought this forum was for those of us who want something more.

Post: #86

(01-24-2013 10:20 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  Miami needs a hurricane for good waves. But the Wedge is poppin' all year long:

Speak, you know I respect you, but that is unequivocally one of the most inaccurate statements ever put on this forum outside of Dash Global.

The Wedge is one of the most inconsistent and fickle waves around that really only works on a Big South in summer.

Not sure where you got this information from, but it is not based on reality.

(01-24-2013 10:01 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 07:29 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 07:15 PM)Technics Wrote:  Even though I can get by no problem in Spanish, I personally find it annoying that a cashier or a customer service person in Miami may not know English.

When I first came to Miami, I wondered, where are the white people at?

What you mentioned is the reason why, you don't get a decent population of whites until you get to Broward.

Miami is unapologetically a Latin American city within the borders of the U.S.

I feel like I'm the only white guy I know who hasn't complained about this. Would you rather have a cashier wearing a cowboy hat telling you to have a "rootin-tootin good time" and offer you some beef jerky? That Americana shit should get old for people who have grown up in the U.S., but maybe I expect too much.

"rootin-tootin good time" is hilarious.

I don't get it either.

I am not debating the Fiscal Cliff with 7-11 cashiers. Or really having conversations with them in general. I am just grabbing a carton of smokes and some gum and I am out. I am not trying to talk about a plan to solve America's debt problems with them. But maybe I am alone in that. You never really know.

Last time I checked, it is not like every liquor store cashier in California speaks in perfect, grammatically correct, no accent English either. But I am not getting them to write a graduate school paper on English Lit for me, so what do I care?

Plus, I speak Spanish. I mean we travel all over the world to Spanish speaking countries, why does it matter what language they speak?

I mean hell, worst case scenario is it is a time to practice your Spanish with a Native Speaker. Sh*t, people spend hours upon hours on Piminsulur or whatever it's called trying to do that.

That is the beauty of Miami to me, it is a "foreign" city in America.

If you like that aspect, you will like Miami. If you don't I could see how you could be seething with hate about the place. And if you love paying 10% state tax, and love having people tell you to stop drinking at 1:30am, I can see how you would passionately hate Miami.

But I don't go to Chinatown and get all furious and all spooled up at people for speaking Chinese either.

So what do I know?

I mean isn't that the beauty of America in general? Different cultures coming together as one nation under God and all that?

Post: #87

Post: #88

(01-24-2013 08:55 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Me too.

Hurricane Sandy South Beach:

Not too shabby at all. And you don't get charged 10% to paddle out either. Ha. (Joke).

I actually got a lot of pictures, and my friend took a bunch of me. I was thinking of posting them on The G Manifesto at some point.

You were in Miami during Hurricane Sandy G? I should have kept my eyes open in Brickell and South Beach.

Post: #89

(01-24-2013 08:55 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 08:44 PM)Technics Wrote:  G Manifesto,

Ok, I'm satisfied with our discussion.

Last question: Where the hell is there surfing in Miami? I suppose I missed it all those years (not being sarcastic).

Me too.

Hurricane Sandy South Beach:







http://www.swellinfo.com/gallery/showima...=newimages

http://surf.transworld.net/1000154171/ph...?pid=67820







Not too shabby at all. And you don't get charged 10% to paddle out either. Ha. (Joke).

I actually got a lot of pictures, and my friend took a bunch of me. I was thinking of posting them on The G Manifesto at some point.

Sick pics G.

Technics, you didn't miss much - South Beach has one of the smallest swell windows in the US. Sandy was supposedly the best surf S Fla has seen since the Halloween 1991 Perfect Storm event.