Black Guy Game is a Myth. Game is Game no Matter Where You Are or Color of Skin.
The TL;DR version is this:
Game is game no matter where you are, or the color of your skin.
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Hey what’s up guys,
I’ve been following this forum for about 1 year+, and just signed up a couple of months ago.
I guess that I might as well chime into this.
Background:
6ft3 Black guy. I’m lightskinned and probably have a resemblance between a bit of Chris Brown and Drake – if you put those two together, that’s *probably* what I’d look like.
Now that being said, I’m not claiming to be a male model or some celebrity look alike. But, that’s the comparison that I get whenever I’m with or around chicks.
I’m not “thuggish” in any type of way. I have more of a Barack Obama type personality that probably stems from growing up around successful business people and not really being involved in “black culture” very much. Mind you, there was a time period in my teenage years where ALL that I would listen to was rap, and I could quote any song on the radio perfectly.
However, I became more sophisticated and all I began to listen to was “classical music”. My personality shifted towards a more “artsy” vibe (not hipster. Think more Renaissance Man). I have ZERO interest in Skrillex, Deadmouse/Dead5 – whatever that dudes name is, and people like that. Whenever I’m at home, I’m usually blasting out some Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Rachmaninoff, or some Vivaldi if I want to take it to the Baroque period.
I also taught myself how to play piano and I can play a lot of the “famous” pieces that most people recognize and go, “OMG, I KNOW THAT SONG!!!” If I don’t know it, then I can learn it in a week. Anyways…
Growing up, I lived in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania where there was pretty much zero racial tension (at least that I noticed). I went to a small private school, and since most of the other kids in my class were white, I guess I got attracted to white chicks over the rare occasional black chick that would pop up in our class from time to time.
I grew up in Black culture (AME Zion Church, Black people food – Collard Greens, Ox Tails, etc.), but as I grew older, I shied away from it little by little.
Never really had any experiences with Race up in Pennsylvania, and I was only about 14 at the time, and my game wasn’t fully developed, but I can just say that there wasn’t any really stigma towards race. Black chicks would like white dudes, and white chicks would like black dudes. So it was good. No ill will towards different colors.
Eventually, I moved down to Atlanta, Georgia and I REALLY experienced different things about race.
(Funny story, once our parents told us that we were moving to the South, I remember almost breaking out in tears because I had just watched a 5 hour long documentary on the History Channel about the KKK and I didn’t want to end up getting lynched or shot for being black in Atlanta. Haha, but I was 13 or 14 at the time and didn’t know what to expect).
Anyways, moving on….
Once I moved down to ATL, I saw that there was a strong mentality that if you are BLACK you are supposed to act “THIS” way, and if you are WHITE, you are supposed to act “THAT” way.
Since I was at a new school in a new city at a different part of the country, I tried to fall into that mold that was set by my black peers. However, it didn’t work out.
I’d often get chided by my black friends about not being “black enough”, not hanging around black people enough, and for my tendencies to want to “talk to white girls” more than black girls. It partially got to me since I was young, but eventually I just kinda grew past all of that.
In retrospect, a lot of these kids had parents who were “Children of the ‘60’s”. Basically, that meant that our parents grew up with Martin Luther King Jr. on their TV’s, they saw the passage of the Civil Rights Bill, and they had to deal with water fountains and bathrooms for “White people” and “Black People”. So basically, they were children who grew up in a racially segregated society.
On top of that, their parents or even their grandparents might have been slaves or they were sharecroppers. So, they grew up in THAT society which reinforced that “white men are superior to black men”.
Now that you see what type of society that I grew up in, it’s time that I move on…
Growing up, I was always a social kid, but I was inconsistent with chicks. Some chicks I could get, then other chicks I couldn’t. I just didn’t understand “game” in my early teenage years.
Eventually, once I started reading different stuff like David Deangelo, and a bunch of different authors, I started applying different things and certain things worked, and certain things didn’t.
But I guess it’s time that I address the main part of the thread for “Gaming women as a black guy”.
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Gaming White Women as a Black Guy
I’ve mainly been attracted to ONLY white chicks in my life. Latin chicks are great too. I haven’t had my share of enough Asian chicks to give a comment. And I’ve also had a fair share of black chicks in my life, but I’m not really attracted to black chicks probably because I grew up around them and they are too…edgy/hardcore for my tastes.
In Georgia (the South too), there is definitely racial tension, but since there’s a lot of mingling between both white people and black people, there a lot of interracial dating.
In my experience, I’ve seen that ANY chick will date a black dude – no matter what.
There’s definitely a category of three chicks:
1) Chicks who are inclined to fuck/date black guys.
2) Chicks who are open to fucking/dating black guys.
3) Chicks who will fuck/date a black guy in the right circumstance.
NOTE: My experience has shown that even in the most racist parts of the Southern USA, even the girls who say, “I’ll never date a black guy” or “I’ll never fuck a black guy” will fuck/date a black guy if the situation is right. They just probably have a lot of conditioning that needs to be overcome. This conditioning has been brought on by peers, family, and society. I’m not saying that it’ll be ‘easy’ to get these chicks, but there’s never a chick who will NEVER ever fuck a black guy in her life. Good game is good game whether black or white.
ADDITIONAL NOTE: I’ve seen circumstances where girls from blatantly racist families have hooked up with black dudes, and have had relationships regardless of their racist families. In fact, their families racism only FUELS the chick’s attraction and level of investment to the black dude. So it backfires for the family. And they either get to the point where they accept the interracial couple, or they “ex-communicate” them both. But yeah.
So I’ll breakdown my eperiences with the 3 types of white girls:
1) Chicks who are inclined to fuck/date black guys – these chicks ALWAYS pop up on my radar, no matter what. There are certain chicks like this who have a certain “vibe” to them. I can’t describe it, but if you put me in a room with 20-30 different chicks I’d be able to identify who is into black dudes. The way I can tell is that the interaction just has a different “feel” to it in a way. It’s almost as if though the chick is “attuned” into black culture enough to understand and vibe with a black guy very well. Even if we DON’T mention anything about mainstream black culture (the new rappers, dancing, celebrities, etc.), I can still point these chicks out and I just *know*.
These chicks may have a lot of black girlfriends, or black guy friends. Or, they might listen to some/a lot of rap music.
It’s easy to verify this by asking if they’ve ever dated/fucked a black guy, so yeah.
In my experience, these chicks are 10-20% depending on your location.
SOMETIMES, there is a quality problem with these chicks because they are a bit on the chub side. However, I’ve seen some fucking STUNNERS.
I’ll be in a club and I’ll look at a white hot blondie, and she’ll look straight back and me, and it’s almost as if though we just “know” that each other are into the other race.
Conversely, if I’m hanging out with another black dude, I can tell probably within 5 minutes or so if he’s the type of dude who will date white chicks. This is probably funnier than the chicks because sometimes I’ll be talking with certain dudes and they are VERY similar to me in their own respective ways and I’ll just straight up ask, “Hey, do you date white chicks?” and they’ll be like YEP. So it’s funny. It’s just one of those things that I just “know”.
Anyways. Next category.
2) Chicks who are open to fucking/dating black guys – I’d say that the majority of chicks fall into this category. These are chicks whose parents might have not had ANY racial influence on their kids (meaning that race wasn’t an issue for these kids growing up). Even though they might not have “tasted the chocolate”, they never faced any issues with racial mixing in their upbringing.
These girls are pretty cool and open to hang out with.
One of my favorite screening questions is this:
I’ll have a girl standing right in front of me. Attraction is there, things are going well, she’s probably about a couple of inches away from my face, and I’ll ask her, “When’s the last time that you’ve kissed a black guy?”
And she’ll say, “…never…”
Proceed to make out and/or pull.
I don’t know how many chicks this has happened with, but it’s too many to count.
I’d say that this chicks are anywhere from 50-70% of all chicks.
3) Chicks who will fuck/date a black guy in the right circumstance – other dudes have put this into the category of “Chicks who will ignore a black guy” or “Chicks who will not fuck a black guy”. In my experience, that’s not an accurate statement.
YES, certain chicks are more inaccessible than other chicks, but a lot of it has to do with situation/circumstance/location, etc.
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NOTE: I’ve seen this “Black guys have no chance at pulling an SEC Sorority Girl” stuff mentioned quite a bit, so let me elaborate on that….
In 2009, I turned down an opportunity to attend Harvard University in order to attend a “party school”. It was going to basically be a matter of me filling out the application for Harvard then sending it in for an acceptance and a full-scholarship. Well, my priorities were no longer working in corporate culture, they were aligned with hitting up chicks, going out, and mastering this thing people called “Game”.
I ended up going to the University of Georgia in Athens, GA. At the time, it was ranked the number 1 party school in the USA by Playboy Magazine. So my timing was perfect.
Athens has a great nightlife for a pure-college town. And I found myself being really successful with the GDI (non-greek) chicks. For some reason, I couldn’t break into the sorority groups as well as I thought. I’d have good interactions in classes with these chicks, but I couldn’t get them out with me because they were 1) too busy with sorority sisters or 2) getting hit up by frat bro’s.
My Game was “good”. IT was better than a lot of other guy’s game, but there was still much for me to learn. But I didn’t have any success with these SEC sorority chicks.
But that was me at the age of 19 with very little money, a miserable college student who wanted to drop out and pursue entrepreneurial interests, and not wanting to continue my education.
I ended up dropping out against my parent’s wishes, but I started making money in different ways, so it was all good.
Anyways, fast forward 3-4 years.
Between then and now, I: traveled different parts of the country and some of the world, became successful in different business ventures, had “adventures” with many, many girls, and my Game had risen above Power Level 9000.
I went back to Athens, GA because there was a 4 year anniversary for my classmates. Many of them would be graduating in a couple of days.
I literally showed up like a “ghost” because everyone thought that I had disappeared and/or died. I didn’t keep in touch with anybody, but I would occasionally hop on facebook from time to time.
Well, I was in Athens for a couple of days, and I proceeded to smash 3 top sorority chicks from the “racist” sororities. Only 1 of them was a chick of mine who I knew before, the other 2 were chicks who I had just met in the couple of days that I was there. And these weren’t bottom tier sorority chicks, more along the lines of KD, KKG, and something else. They were sororities that had ZERO minorities in them, so yeah.
So I just give that story to say that…it doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white. Game is COLORBLIND.
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Moving on…
The 3rd type of chick just needs the right circumstances. I’m not saying that you’ll get that chick the same night. It might take some persistence over a couple of days, weeks, or months, but eventually she’ll cave because your awesomeness overrides her social conditioning system.
I’ve had a Russian lady friend who told me 4 years ago that she’d, “Never date or have sex with a black guy”. In my mind I was like, “yeah…we’ll see how that turns out…”
Well, I saw her at that little reunion, and she proceeded to tell me that she’s been torn open by 3 or 4 BBC’s, so yeah…
There’s no girl that WON’T date/fuck a black guy. There just has to be the correct levels of investment, game, and just understanding that it’s a PROCESS that’s going to take time.
If I meet a chick in the 3rd category, I have to remind myself that it’s not the GIRL who I’m dealing with, it’s her conditioning, and fear of social repercussions about race.
But I don’t really view race in the same way as other people, so I don’t even think about it.
These girls are in the 5-15% category depending on where you live. Again, it’s very location independent. And this revolves around a girls upbringing more than anything.
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With all that being said, there are a couple of points I’d like to personally address.
-Civil War and Slavery
-American girls vs. Non-American Girls:
-Black Clubs
-“Black Guy Game”
-Things I like to say to white people/white girls
-Stereotypes
-Why I don’t like black chicks.
-What White Girls think about race.
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-Civil War and Slavery – this is the ONLY reason why race is an issue in the US. Eckhart Tolle talks about how each country has its own “Pain Body” where a raw nerve is hit whenever racism is brought up or whenever it happens. I personally think that the US society is trying to make up for what it “did” to black people in the 1700-1960’s.
-Things I like to say to white people/white girls:
If a girl is not responsive, I’ll just ask straight up, “Are you racist?” And she will explain for about 2-5 minutes how she is NOT racist and how she has TONZ of black friends, and how understanding and accepting she is of white people. Again, like I said before, no one wants to be labeled as a racist, and no one wants to openly hang around a racist.
“I’m black, this is just how we do things in my culture” – certain girls are NOT very physical. So whenever it comes to escalation, I’ll get stuff like, “Oh you’re really touchy” or “You touch me a lot”. This is just a BS excuse, but it works.
“Let’s play reverse slavery…I’m the slavemaster and you’re my slave” – so much fun to do this because it’s so fucked up, lol.
“This is payback for the Civil War” – one of my favorite things to say to white people for ANYTHING. If I cut someone in the cover line, and I get an object like, “OMG dude, you can’t do that”, then I’ll just say that. This sentence doesn’t make ANY sense at all, but (American) white people understand what I mean by it. Technically, the sentence should be, “This is payback for all you white people did to black people during the slavery period”. However, that just doesn’t have the same ring to it, lol. They understand what I mean by it.
Think about it:
1) Celebrities call gay people faggots (Alec Baldwin) and no one really calls. However, Paula Deen said the N-word 40 years ago and she gets DROPPED like a fly from all her sponsorships. The truth is, in America, NO ONE wants to be associated with a racist (at least openly).
2) The USA is one of the few places that I know I can get a full scholarship to an Ivy League for having good grades, being a “good person”, and getting an above decent SAT score. The “Under Represented Minorities” as College Admissions Officers call them get special privilege. Why? Because of “diversity”, but I think that it all stems from slavery and the civil war.
3) From what I understand, Germans (most) are the same way about Nazism. They do NOT stand for it in 2013. It’s the same thing about Racism in the USA. Even though this shit happened hundreds of years ago, no one wants to be called a racist or be openly associated with racism. For example, I’m sure that that sorority in Alabama probably got DOZENS of complaints in the past about how black members weren’t able to get access to the “white only” sororities. However, since it’s 2013 and EVERYTHING goes through social media, this complaint got “taken seriously” and we’ll probably see 5 new black sorority sisters in Rush 2014.
-American girls vs. Non-American Girls: Out of the chicks I’ve banged, I’d say that 60% were American and the other 40% were foreign-ish (either foreign born and/or raised). The 40% have been foreign exchange students, or chicks who were visiting in some capacity. I’d say that foreign chicks really want to taste the chocolate because they don’t get the opportunity to do so. However, to them, it’s not really racially based, it’s just “different” or “exotic”. It’s not what they’re getting on a regular basis.
-Black Clubs: Some guys I know have said that they don’t think that I would do well in a black club. However, nothing could be farther from the truth. I actually DESTROY it more in a black club than anywhere else. Mainly because the chicks have never met a guy who is as well-spoken/articulate is me AND is cool/fun/chill. They are used to dealing with thugs.
However, I don’t pull/date African American chicks anymore, but I will hit them up and just talk for fun.
I’m the type of guy that if I go to a black club, I’ll talk to everyone, but I’ll only get sexual/pull the (attractive) white chicks from there.
I have a lot of white girlfriends who have never been to black clubs but are DYING to go to one just for the experience. So I’ll roll 4 (attractive) white chicks deeps into a BLACK club. Needless to say, they get eyefucked and I get eyefucked like crazy. Nothing funnier than seeing 4 snowbunnies and me standing in a line surrounded by a sea of chocolate.
So, I’ll be in a black club surrounded by 4 attractive white chicks, and whatever other white girls are in the club will see that I’m “preselected” so they will naturally be open whenever I go up to hit them or they might head over to me, so it depends.
I remember once this Model Blondie Snow bunnie was getting dragged off by 5 of her black guy friends, but she kept running over to me to “chat” because I was “cool”.
But I mention all of that to say that, white people in a black club are like aliens in time square…you don’t see them. And whenever you do, it’s a spectacle.
-“Black Guy Game” – In my opinion, most black guys have shitty game. ****Now, the black members on this forum probably have GREAT game, so they do NOT fall into this category****. However, I’m pretty confident to say that somewhere between 70-90% of black dudes might do well with chicks for whatever reason, but they have WEAKSAUCE GAME. However, black dudes are some of the most social dudes I know, and they are fun to be around, and they DO get chicks. However, I think that white people overestimate how “good” the average black guy is. Needless to say, there are some legitimate fucking players out there who are straight up awesome dudes and pimps, but they are too far in between. White people greatly exaggerate the game skill of black dudes. And that is because of this next category….
-Stereotypes: Society does a great job of putting images of black people saying that they are: rich gangsters, great athletes, great musicians, and fun/social/energetic people to be around. And those are true.
However, there is a lot of shit spread on the news about black people being: murderers, bank robbers, car jackers, rapists, etc. So eh…
-Why I don’t like African American chicks.
They are too angry, bitter, and some are very loud/ghetto. It’s a big turn off for me. Some are very crude and unrefined. However, not all, but enough of them for to spoil the bunch.
I’m open to dating different African chicks of non-American heritage (African-English, African-Canadian, African-French, etc. ), but since I’m in the States right now, I don’t come across chicks like that very often.
-What White Girls think about race.
It might be an “exotic” thing for them subconsciously. But too many of them are able to look past the superficial BS and just see the guy for the guy. I’ve heard pretty much every chick tell me that she SEES a black guy whenever she looks at me, but she doesn’t see me ONLY as a black guy whenever she looks at me. Black is just the color of my skin. It’s not “who I am”. And chicks look past this easily (some of them more quickly than others), so yeah.
That’s my 2 cents about everything.
Cheers.
(This post was last modified: 09-26-2013 11:48 PM by CEOArob.)
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