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A different Approach to PickUp
Salute,

I am sure, some of you guys have written "The Alabaster Girl"- by Zan Perrion. This book is quite unusual and it stands out from all the other books on game, that I came across.
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Zan's Approach is a more sensitive and spiritual way, which some of you would probably consider "feely". However I like his idea of "being in love" with all women, not just one. Zan believes, that 95% of game is just showing up and offering the Girl an interaction with you. (take it or leave it). He doesn't talk a lot about techniques and rather tries to inspire a fascinated and worshipping mentality towards all women.
Definately a good read, even if you don't fully agree with his views. I personally think, that he took it a little too far, but it gave me a much broader view on game and the interactions between men and women.

It would be intersting to hear your thoughts on this different Approach to pick up.

Cheers,

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03-10-2016 12:23 PM
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RE: A different Approach to PickUp
(03-10-2016 12:23 PM)shy Wrote:  Zan believes, that 95% of game is just showing up and offering the Girl an interaction with you. (take it or leave it).

When you are blessed with this dudes model looks, thats all he would have to do, show up.

I want to read books from ugly dudes that get laid, they must have things to teach me about game, not some pretty boy who just turns up...
03-10-2016 04:38 PM
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RE: A different Approach to PickUp
Haven't read the book, but wanted to possibly expand on one of those points.

"Showing up" just means being emotionally present and in the moment. This is what separates the guys memorizing scripts or faking it to make it. Being in the moment emotionally is what allows so called 'ugly guys to push pass their initial disadvantages. Give me two guys of equal status/looks and abilities and I would bet on the one who is more intuned with himself emotionally. He will be the one more likely to connect with a chick.

There are plenty of guys with good looks, who are terrible at connecting with women. Looks get you a shot at the major leagues; you still have to perform when you get there

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RE: A different Approach to PickUp
Quote:Zan believes, that 95% of game is just showing up and offering the Girl an interaction with you.



Oh really?


What are his other titles?


The friendzone: It's not just for Betas anymore


Just Be Yourself: The real way to get women wet


Getting Cucked: It's not as bad as you think

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RE: A different Approach to PickUp
(03-10-2016 12:23 PM)shy Wrote:  tries to inspire a fascinated and worshipping mentality towards all women.

This sounds like horrible advice.
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RE: A different Approach to PickUp
I've met Zan. He's a nice guy who has probably always had success with women.

That's part of the problem. I would rather hear from who took his game from an F to an A than hear from a guy who has always been an A.
03-10-2016 11:53 PM
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(03-10-2016 11:53 PM)puckerman Wrote:  I've met Zan. He's a nice guy who has probably always had success with women.

That's part of the problem. I would rather hear from who took his game from an F to an A than hear from a guy who has always been an A.

There's a lot of guys out there who are naturally very alpha, but remarkably blue pill. They're usually the ones to get into an LTR with a smoking hot chick, experience involuntary reversions of betatude, and get dumped. Then they wonder what the hell happened.

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03-11-2016 11:48 AM
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RE: A different Approach to PickUp
interesting views. Zan gave me a Little relief of my bitterness towards women. We all know, that there are dark realities of the game and sometimes it disturbs me how fucked up this whole mating game is. Zan's mentality showed me a different Point of view and allowed me to relax again.
03-11-2016 12:29 PM
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RE: A different Approach to PickUp
^ There's certainly merit in that. That was a disconnect I had for awhile, letting go of some of the bitterness I had towards women and the "system".


I have found that the bitterness factor that we experience as a part of acknowledging the harsh realities of the game and the Sexual Market stem from entitlement.


"Why are things so fucked up?"

"Why are all women such fucking whores?"

"Why does the system let her get away with physically abusing me like that?"


"Why can't I just find a nice girl?"


"Why are there so many white knights everywhere?"


"Why do women not know their woes are caused, for the most part, by their own solipsism and emotional ineptitude?"




Why, oh why indeed.


During the earlier phase of my "deprogramming" I found myself constantly talking about "red pill truths" to anyone who would listen. Including women. Big mistake. It was essentially the final vestiges of bluepill leaving the system at that point. In some sense I was operating under the false assumption that women can be talked into behaving rationally. Obviously that's retarded.


One thing the above quotes have in common is they all start with the question "why". This is what I meant by entitlement leading to bitterness. If there is one question in life that is essentially irrelevant, it's always "why?".


Who, what, where, when, how? Those all have some actual answers. The only person you should ever ask the WHY question is yourself.


The world does not owe us an explanation. In fact, many people out there would deliberately keep you in the dark. It's up to us to draw our own conclusions. Once I got that through my head I was so much happier.


Once you stop caring about why, the bitterness bleeds off and you can go on with life.

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RE: A different Approach to PickUp
(03-10-2016 04:38 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 12:23 PM)shy Wrote:  Zan believes, that 95% of game is just showing up and offering the Girl an interaction with you. (take it or leave it).

When you are blessed with this dudes model looks, thats all he would have to do, show up.

I want to read books from ugly dudes that get laid, they must have things to teach me about game, not some pretty boy who just turns up...

No homo?

If the guy above were pre-Bosley/Rogaine, 30 lbs overweight and wearing a T shirt and sweats he'd be dad next door. Part of knowing what to do with women is not letting yourself get to that state.

Isn't this the guy who was in "The Game", talking about how he'd banged every waitress except one in the joint they were eating lunch in and sounded like he was about to fix that? Better game than me no doubt, does he have any non-fiction?
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RE: A different Approach to PickUp
A lot of "game" advice is based on what works for a particular guy, his personality
and the type of women he connects with.

At any given moment, there are just as many women who will be turned off by you
as there will be women who will totally love you and even the best game in the world
will do you no good if you are wasting time chasing the wrong women or in the wrong places.

It is important though to not be emotionally damaged or so cynical that you effectively poison
your relationships. That's the real danger...especially if you've had a string of bad apples...
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RE: A different Approach to PickUp
There's little magic there - all girls' primary directive, be it conscious or not, is to secure best genes/resources for her and her child/ren. As long as you keep it in mind, so much more of girls' behaviour (from pure sweetness to vengful hatred, from head games to submissiveness and some more) will make sense.

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RE: A different Approach to PickUp
It's "low fear" component of this guy's approach that is / has likely driven his success: What most women call confidence and repeatedly say is a man's most attractive feature.

His "love of all women" is an ass end around to an abundance outlook

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It really isn't all that complicated. The man / woman dynamic is only as complex as we make it/allow it to be in our own mind.

The more "truths" we learn and let become "automatic" the more it all boils down to the essentials:

Of which there are ultimately only two...

Fear and Desire

That has honed my philosophy and makes the message easy to convey to women

"I really would like to fuck your brains out (high desire) but won't really give a shit if I never do" (low fear)

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